America's Gun Violence

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,164
    Just another “responsible” gun owner. Pretty soon we won’t need abortion.

    A Woman Accidentally Shot and Killed Her Daughter While Trying to Turn on Her Gun's Safety - TIME https://apple.news/ApsuGbilmSb2teIgr8i441A
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  • mcgruff10
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    Excellent post del!
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    Excellent post del!
    Lol
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  • cincybearcat
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,164
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    edited April 2018
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
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  • mace1229
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.
  • mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,164
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
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  • mcgruff10
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    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    You two are funny lol. I m guessing it is a law and law abiding gun owners have no problems following the law. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.
    Not surprised at all, just amused at the mental gymnastics the NRA has to do to justify the different standards. 

    How many VPs have been assassinated in living memory?

    How many students have been assassinated in recent memory? 
     
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Whatever happened to the “no gun free zones” rallying cry?
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  • Bad guys aren't going to follow the rules.

    You call a NRA convention a 'gun free zone' then politicians attending are sitting ducks. It'd be a gawddam turkey shoot.

    This is why we should arm the politicians.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,164
    edited April 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    You two are funny lol. I m guessing it is a law and law abiding gun owners have no problems following the law. 
    But why is making a law to make the White House and Capitol gun free zones okay but schools and municipalities that do so are mocked and ridiculed? Do you not see the hypocrisy in that? I’m willing to bet that you can’t make an appointment to meet with Wayne LaPierre at NRA headquarters while concealed or open carrying either. Why is that? What are they afraid of?
     
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    edited April 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    You two are funny lol. I m guessing it is a law and law abiding gun owners have no problems following the law. 
    But why is making a law to make the White House and Capitol gun free zones okay but schools and municipalities that do so are mocked and ridiculed? Do you not see the hypocrisy in that? I’m willing to bet that you can’t make an appointment to meet with Wayne LaPierre at NRA headquarters while concealed or open carrying either. Why is that? What are they afraid of?
     
    Write a letter to the secret service and ask them.  Let me know what they say. 


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  • mrussel1
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    You two are funny lol. I m guessing it is a law and law abiding gun owners have no problems following the law. 
    But why is making a law to make the White House and Capitol gun free zones okay but schools and municipalities that do so are mocked and ridiculed? Do you not see the hypocrisy in that? I’m willing to bet that you can’t make an appointment to meet with Wayne LaPierre at NRA headquarters while concealed or open carrying either. Why is that? What are they afraid of?
     
    Write a letter to the secret service and ask them.  Let me know what they say. 


    I certainly understand why the VP attendance would make it gun free.  The more interesting question is whether a normal convention, minus a principle, would also be gun free.  Someone mentioned that the NRA HQ is gun free.  Do we know that to be true?
  • mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    You two are funny lol. I m guessing it is a law and law abiding gun owners have no problems following the law. 
    But why is making a law to make the White House and Capitol gun free zones okay but schools and municipalities that do so are mocked and ridiculed? Do you not see the hypocrisy in that? I’m willing to bet that you can’t make an appointment to meet with Wayne LaPierre at NRA headquarters while concealed or open carrying either. Why is that? What are they afraid of?
     
    Write a letter to the secret service and ask them.  Let me know what they say. 


    I certainly understand why the VP attendance would make it gun free.  The more interesting question is whether a normal convention, minus a principle, would also be gun free.  Someone mentioned that the NRA HQ is gun free.  Do we know that to be true?
    But if these guys walked the walk... there'd be no restrictions.

    Bottom line: hypocrisy at a very humerous level (if it wasn't so pathetic).

    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    edited April 2018
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh, the irony.

    The NRA bans guns at their upcoming convention while Mike Pence is in attendance.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/nra-convention-bans-guns-to-protect-mike-pence-parkland-survivors-jaws-drop_us_5ae4f225e4b04aa23f239924

    It's almost like they're admitting that, despite a whole convention hall of presumably "good guys with guns", someone might still manage to commit violence. 
    I believe they become a gun free zone for their convention and headquarters every year, every day, respectively. Their hypocrisy has been around for quite sometime.
    In the article it says the secret service put these restrictions in place. 
    Pretty much anywhere the president or VP go is a gun free zone. I don’t know why anyone is surprised an NRA convention with the VP is not an exception to that.
    and as you pointed out, it was the secret service who required this. Although I think it’s a good idea, NRA seems like that had nothing to do with that decision.

    So no guns around important people? Just regular people? 
    Yea, I thought having everyone armed was the best way to ensure safety? Why can’t you bring your gun into the White House or Capitol building? Being a law abiding and “responsible” gun owner and all? Plus, wouldn’t the good guys with guns stop the bad guys with guns? If it works in schools, why not in Congress?
     
    You two are funny lol. I m guessing it is a law and law abiding gun owners have no problems following the law. 
    But why is making a law to make the White House and Capitol gun free zones okay but schools and municipalities that do so are mocked and ridiculed? Do you not see the hypocrisy in that? I’m willing to bet that you can’t make an appointment to meet with Wayne LaPierre at NRA headquarters while concealed or open carrying either. Why is that? What are they afraid of?
     
    Write a letter to the secret service and ask them.  Let me know what they say. 


    I certainly understand why the VP attendance would make it gun free.  The more interesting question is whether a normal convention, minus a principle, would also be gun free.  Someone mentioned that the NRA HQ is gun free.  Do we know that to be true?
    But if these guys walked the walk... there'd be no restrictions.

    Bottom line: hypocrisy at a very humerous level (if it wasn't so pathetic).

    It isn’t hypocrisy because they are playing by the secret service s rules. Del you are really stretching on this one. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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