America's Gun Violence
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Can you remind what kind of weapons were used in the last two massacres ?tempo_n_groove said:
We will talk in circles like this thread normally does but handguns are the major cause of the deaths, so no.josevolution said:
Really you think maybe that 5 to 10 million AR15's in circulation has anything to do with it ?tempo_n_groove said:
True. In a bunch of countries it is mandatory to own a gun and mass shootings don't happen there either.josevolution said:
Has anyone responded as to why these massacres only happen here ? when was the last time 17 highschool student got murdered in JAPAN or ENGLAND or CHILE or ARGENTINA ?tempo_n_groove said:
Has anyone said "because the constitution says I can?"my2hands said:
Still waiting for someone in here to tell me why they need a weapon like that?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I don't have an answer as to why these things happen here but I wish someone would start studying it.
Switzerland has more guns than people yet they don't have mass shootings.
There has to be more to it than just guns.
Assault ban from 1994-2004 did not decrease gun violence. It did increase the prices of the guns and when it ended people went on spending sprees to buy more when they became legal to purchase again.
We should ban young men and young boys. They are the ones doing all the killing. No woman mass murderers. We should at least do more studying and figure out "why".jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I'll answer this and then you answer my question, fair?josevolution said:
Can you remind what kind of weapons were used in the last two massacres ?tempo_n_groove said:
We will talk in circles like this thread normally does but handguns are the major cause of the deaths, so no.josevolution said:
Really you think maybe that 5 to 10 million AR15's in circulation has anything to do with it ?tempo_n_groove said:
True. In a bunch of countries it is mandatory to own a gun and mass shootings don't happen there either.josevolution said:
Has anyone responded as to why these massacres only happen here ? when was the last time 17 highschool student got murdered in JAPAN or ENGLAND or CHILE or ARGENTINA ?tempo_n_groove said:
Has anyone said "because the constitution says I can?"my2hands said:
Still waiting for someone in here to tell me why they need a weapon like that?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I don't have an answer as to why these things happen here but I wish someone would start studying it.
Switzerland has more guns than people yet they don't have mass shootings.
There has to be more to it than just guns.
Assault ban from 1994-2004 did not decrease gun violence. It did increase the prices of the guns and when it ended people went on spending sprees to buy more when they became legal to purchase again.
We should ban young men and young boys. They are the ones doing all the killing. No woman mass murderers. We should at least do more studying and figure out "why".
Last two were with AR-15's. Both legally obtained by the people whom committed the mass murders too.
Now with everything that I eluded to above, shouldn't there be more to it than owning a gun that these people commit these atrocities?
It just doesn't sit well with me that there are as you say "5 to 10 million AR15's in circulation" and more people aren't dying from them.
There has to be something more to it. Someone should be learning as to "why" that is.0 -
You have to admit, those kids probably did learn a lot about safety that day....PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, no shit.HughFreakingDillon said:expect a lot more of this if Trump's ideas come to fruition.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/14/us/california-teacher-fires-gun/index.html
Trump's current plan is just more pandering to the NRA for fuck's sake. I mean, the NRA must be licking their chops over this one - it's like a dream come true for them.0 -
Switzerland does not have more guns than people. Plus they ahve a max ownership per person of 3. The US is the only country with more guns than people. Where are you getting your information? First you say countries have mandatory ownership, which isn't true, now this information. I hope you aren't like that guy that was here for a minute and got all his info from memes.tempo_n_groove said:
We will talk in circles like this thread normally does but handguns are the major cause of the deaths, so no.josevolution said:
Really you think maybe that 5 to 10 million AR15's in circulation has anything to do with it ?tempo_n_groove said:
True. In a bunch of countries it is mandatory to own a gun and mass shootings don't happen there either.josevolution said:
Has anyone responded as to why these massacres only happen here ? when was the last time 17 highschool student got murdered in JAPAN or ENGLAND or CHILE or ARGENTINA ?tempo_n_groove said:
Has anyone said "because the constitution says I can?"my2hands said:
Still waiting for someone in here to tell me why they need a weapon like that?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I don't have an answer as to why these things happen here but I wish someone would start studying it.
Switzerland has more guns than people yet they don't have mass shootings.
There has to be more to it than just guns.
Assault ban from 1994-2004 did not decrease gun violence. It did increase the prices of the guns and when it ended people went on spending sprees to buy more when they became legal to purchase again.
We should ban young men and young boys. They are the ones doing all the killing. No woman mass murderers. We should at least do more studying and figure out "why".0 -
Switzerland has the highest rate of gun deaths in Europe, even without mass shootings, so there’s that.....my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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So again, why does any civilian NEED an AR-15? What is society gaining from them?tempo_n_groove said:
Has anyone said "because the constitution says I can?"my2hands said:
Still waiting for someone in here to tell me why they need a weapon like that?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:0 -
You want the death toll to match the amount of AR15's are in circulation funny but to me one student death is too many , and you ask why that is i'd say it's too fucking easy to buy these weapons or how about Orange bafoon reversing the OBAMA initiative on mental healthtempo_n_groove said:
I'll answer this and then you answer my question, fair?josevolution said:
Can you remind what kind of weapons were used in the last two massacres ?tempo_n_groove said:
We will talk in circles like this thread normally does but handguns are the major cause of the deaths, so no.josevolution said:
Really you think maybe that 5 to 10 million AR15's in circulation has anything to do with it ?tempo_n_groove said:
True. In a bunch of countries it is mandatory to own a gun and mass shootings don't happen there either.josevolution said:
Has anyone responded as to why these massacres only happen here ? when was the last time 17 highschool student got murdered in JAPAN or ENGLAND or CHILE or ARGENTINA ?tempo_n_groove said:
Has anyone said "because the constitution says I can?"my2hands said:
Still waiting for someone in here to tell me why they need a weapon like that?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I don't have an answer as to why these things happen here but I wish someone would start studying it.
Switzerland has more guns than people yet they don't have mass shootings.
There has to be more to it than just guns.
Assault ban from 1994-2004 did not decrease gun violence. It did increase the prices of the guns and when it ended people went on spending sprees to buy more when they became legal to purchase again.
We should ban young men and young boys. They are the ones doing all the killing. No woman mass murderers. We should at least do more studying and figure out "why".
Last two were with AR-15's. Both legally obtained by the people whom committed the mass murders too.
Now with everything that I eluded to above, shouldn't there be more to it than owning a gun that these people commit these atrocities?
It just doesn't sit well with me that there are as you say "5 to 10 million AR15's in circulation" and more people aren't dying from them.
There has to be something more to it. Someone should be learning as to "why" that is.
So since we are asking ? do you own an AR15 ?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Whoa really how about kids learn about safety with out 17 of their classmates getting gunned down i'd say that would be a good way to learn ...mace1229 said:
You have to admit, those kids probably did learn a lot about safety that day....PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, no shit.HughFreakingDillon said:expect a lot more of this if Trump's ideas come to fruition.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/14/us/california-teacher-fires-gun/index.html
Trump's current plan is just more pandering to the NRA for fuck's sake. I mean, the NRA must be licking their chops over this one - it's like a dream come true for them.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I completely agree with this. I think if we get to the root of that, then a lot of problems will be solved, not just the mass shooting in America one. OBVIOUSLY society is doing a bad job in this context. So many boys and then men are not learning better ways to deal with their emotions, anger, frustration, or testosterone, either within themselves or with others. We all know it, but nobody is doing a damn thing to change it. Most just keep making excuses for it. It is definitely a complex issue that involves education, socialization, gender roles, societal pressures and attitudes, science, parenting, etc. It's a big deal .... that doesn't mean it shouldn't be confronted, and right now. WAY more attention should be given to this.tempo_n_groove said:
We will talk in circles like this thread normally does but handguns are the major cause of the deaths, so no.josevolution said:
Really you think maybe that 5 to 10 million AR15's in circulation has anything to do with it ?tempo_n_groove said:
True. In a bunch of countries it is mandatory to own a gun and mass shootings don't happen there either.josevolution said:
Has anyone responded as to why these massacres only happen here ? when was the last time 17 highschool student got murdered in JAPAN or ENGLAND or CHILE or ARGENTINA ?tempo_n_groove said:
Has anyone said "because the constitution says I can?"my2hands said:
Still waiting for someone in here to tell me why they need a weapon like that?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I don't have an answer as to why these things happen here but I wish someone would start studying it.
Switzerland has more guns than people yet they don't have mass shootings.
There has to be more to it than just guns.
Assault ban from 1994-2004 did not decrease gun violence. It did increase the prices of the guns and when it ended people went on spending sprees to buy more when they became legal to purchase again.
We should ban young men and young boys. They are the ones doing all the killing. No woman mass murderers. We should at least do more studying and figure out "why".
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
When I was in Iraq the locals explained how most of the people owned guns and that Sadam wanted to make it a law. I thought it was there.mrussel1 said:
Switzerland does not have more guns than people. Plus they ahve a max ownership per person of 3. The US is the only country with more guns than people. Where are you getting your information? First you say countries have mandatory ownership, which isn't true, now this information. I hope you aren't like that guy that was here for a minute and got all his info from memes.tempo_n_groove said:
We will talk in circles like this thread normally does but handguns are the major cause of the deaths, so no.josevolution said:
Really you think maybe that 5 to 10 million AR15's in circulation has anything to do with it ?tempo_n_groove said:
True. In a bunch of countries it is mandatory to own a gun and mass shootings don't happen there either.josevolution said:
Has anyone responded as to why these massacres only happen here ? when was the last time 17 highschool student got murdered in JAPAN or ENGLAND or CHILE or ARGENTINA ?tempo_n_groove said:
Has anyone said "because the constitution says I can?"my2hands said:
Still waiting for someone in here to tell me why they need a weapon like that?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I don't have an answer as to why these things happen here but I wish someone would start studying it.
Switzerland has more guns than people yet they don't have mass shootings.
There has to be more to it than just guns.
Assault ban from 1994-2004 did not decrease gun violence. It did increase the prices of the guns and when it ended people went on spending sprees to buy more when they became legal to purchase again.
We should ban young men and young boys. They are the ones doing all the killing. No woman mass murderers. We should at least do more studying and figure out "why".
Switzerland is my fault. I saw the number of guns that they own and didn't realize their population was that high
No I don't use memes as info, that is funny though.
So now that I have been fact checked can you answer my question?
We should ban young men and young boys. They are the ones doing all the killing. No woman mass murderers. We should at least do more studying and figure out "why"
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What is your question?
You are making statements. You haven't asked anything.
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If that's a starting point i agree lets ban any one under 25 form buying assault rifles , vegas though was a middle aged dude ...tempo_n_groove said:
When I was in Iraq the locals explained how most of the people owned guns and that Sadam wanted to make it a law. I thought it was there.mrussel1 said:
Switzerland does not have more guns than people. Plus they ahve a max ownership per person of 3. The US is the only country with more guns than people. Where are you getting your information? First you say countries have mandatory ownership, which isn't true, now this information. I hope you aren't like that guy that was here for a minute and got all his info from memes.tempo_n_groove said:
We will talk in circles like this thread normally does but handguns are the major cause of the deaths, so no.josevolution said:
Really you think maybe that 5 to 10 million AR15's in circulation has anything to do with it ?tempo_n_groove said:
True. In a bunch of countries it is mandatory to own a gun and mass shootings don't happen there either.josevolution said:
Has anyone responded as to why these massacres only happen here ? when was the last time 17 highschool student got murdered in JAPAN or ENGLAND or CHILE or ARGENTINA ?tempo_n_groove said:
Has anyone said "because the constitution says I can?"my2hands said:
Still waiting for someone in here to tell me why they need a weapon like that?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I don't have an answer as to why these things happen here but I wish someone would start studying it.
Switzerland has more guns than people yet they don't have mass shootings.
There has to be more to it than just guns.
Assault ban from 1994-2004 did not decrease gun violence. It did increase the prices of the guns and when it ended people went on spending sprees to buy more when they became legal to purchase again.
We should ban young men and young boys. They are the ones doing all the killing. No woman mass murderers. We should at least do more studying and figure out "why".
Switzerland is my fault. I saw the number of guns that they own and didn't realize their population was that high
No I don't use memes as info, that is funny though.
So now that I have been fact checked can you answer my question?
We should ban young men and young boys. They are the ones doing all the killing. No woman mass murderers. We should at least do more studying and figure out "why"jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Shouldn't we be doing more to figure out "why" these mass murders are mostly being caused by young men and boys?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:^^^
What is your question?
You are making statements. You haven't asked anything.0 -
The guy who killed 49 people at the Orlando nightclub was 29. And that guy who killed his co-workers in San Bernardino was older too. I think age restriction is a good idea, but not really because of the age of shooters (although school shootings in particular are always committed by younger people). It's because it might help prevent the whole gun freak culture from sinking so deep into people when they're young and impressionable.
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Young man, no?PJ_Soul said:The guy who killed 49 people at the Orlando nightclub was 29.0 -
The guy in vegas was older than that too ..PJ_Soul said:The guy who killed 49 people at the Orlando nightclub was 29. And that guy who killed his co-workers in San Bernardino was older too. I think age restriction is a good idea, but not really because of the age of shooters (although school shootings in particular are always committed by younger people). It's because it might help prevent the whole culture from sinking so deep into people when they're young and impressionable.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
because men are generally more prone to violence. For reference or detail, please look up War in your encyclopedia.tempo_n_groove said:
Shouldn't we be doing more to figure out "why" these mass murders are mostly being caused by young men and boys?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:^^^
What is your question?
You are making statements. You haven't asked anything.0 -
Older than 25. I don't consider someone who is nearly 30 to be a "young man", no. That's full blown adult man, lol. But my point is actually that an age restriction isn't all that helpful if you're thinking about who commits mass murders.tempo_n_groove said:
Young man, no?PJ_Soul said:The guy who killed 49 people at the Orlando nightclub was 29.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
PJ_Soul said:The guy who killed 49 people at the Orlando nightclub was 29. And that guy who killed his co-workers in San Bernardino was older too. I think age restriction is a good idea, but not really because of the age of shooters (although school shootings in particular are always committed by younger people). It's because it might help prevent the whole gun freak culture from sinking so deep into people when they're young and impressionable.
I know there are exceptions where people are older. Who is going into the schools and shooting them up?josevolution said:
The guy in vegas was older than that too ..PJ_Soul said:The guy who killed 49 people at the Orlando nightclub was 29. And that guy who killed his co-workers in San Bernardino was older too. I think age restriction is a good idea, but not really because of the age of shooters (although school shootings in particular are always committed by younger people). It's because it might help prevent the whole culture from sinking so deep into people when they're young and impressionable.
Young men and young boys? Yes or no?
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Let's talk about anything but the guns, right? lol0
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