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2018 US Shows - It's Time to Dust Off Some of the Political Songs

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    DiscopijDiscopij Posts: 438
    I'm all for Glorified G at every show if it makes progress ....

    but regarding Trump, i've always felt the best way to bug him is to ignore him and focus your energy on quietly undermining his causes through focusing on the next set of elections ... if a band like PJ makes headlines in the news that degrades him it makes him almost as happy as supporting his insanity ... he feeds off his ego and just wants to know people are talking about him even if it's negative stuff ... he's a lot like Kim Jong-un in that way.

    This concludes my political discourse ... and with that, i hope the band plays all my favorite songs at each show this tour without focus on any political agenda and instead continues to focus on messages of equality and inclusion
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,216
    The American in Me and Know Your Rights would be spectacular. And to those saying no thanks, they'd have to avoid half of their catalog. Most of their songs have social and political ties.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,140
    tbergs said:
    And to those saying no thanks, they'd have to avoid half of their catalog. Most of their songs have social and political ties.
    Really? Wow, I never knew that, that’s a lot of songs then.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    edited February 2018
    tbergs said:
    The American in Me and Know Your Rights would be spectacular. And to those saying no thanks, they'd have to avoid half of their catalog. Most of their songs have social and political ties.
    Does pj even have ten political songs?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,216
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    The American in Me and Know Your Rights would be spectacular. And to those saying no thanks, they'd have to avoid half of their catalog. Most of their songs have social and political ties.
    Does pj even have ten political songs?
    Yeah, that's why I added in social, which in today's age is every bit political. Straight up in your face political, not many.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    The American in Me and Know Your Rights would be spectacular. And to those saying no thanks, they'd have to avoid half of their catalog. Most of their songs have social and political ties.
    Does pj even have ten political songs?
    Yeah, that's why I added in social, which in today's age is every bit political. Straight up in your face political, not many.
    Got ya. What songs do you think are about  social issues?
    i m thinking: glorified g had evolved into one 
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    daughter 
    yellow moon

    whay else?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    Stupid mop is about child abuse.  Forgot about that one. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,878
    W.M.A. has only been played in full 17 times. Would love see this one get into rotation.

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    mr.macmr.mac Posts: 162
    NewJPage said:
    after barely a political peep at 2016 Wrigley, I think the days of overtly political PJ are over. Was a good run while it lasted!
    Eddie was VERY political at Pilgrimage last September.
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    PP193448PP193448 Here Posts: 4,281
    edited February 2018
    Shut up and dribble the ball...  :rofl:  oops I meant shut up and sing...
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    kaw753kaw753 Posts: 751
    tbergs said:
    The American in Me and Know Your Rights would be spectacular. And to those saying no thanks, they'd have to avoid half of their catalog. Most of their songs have social and political ties.
    I thought 75% of their songs were about the ocean? Math is not checking out here!
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    iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,299
    kaw753 said:
    tbergs said:
    The American in Me and Know Your Rights would be spectacular. And to those saying no thanks, they'd have to avoid half of their catalog. Most of their songs have social and political ties.
    I thought 75% of their songs were about the ocean? Math is not checking out here!
    Know your rights and I Am a Patriot would be fine songs for the setlists
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    justBE23justBE23 Posts: 44
    Social commentary: How about Corduroy regarding homeless individuals and the (perhaps judgmental) assistance offfered, or assistance with strings attached?  Mind Your Manners about evangelism/religion.  

    War:  Yellow Ledbetter, and obviously they love to cover Fortunate Son.   

    Man, I need to emphasize how much I would so LOVE to see them perform Gimme Some Truth.  We thought George Bush was bad back in ‘03...damn!!
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    gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 2,346
    mr bungle said:
    TRUMPLEAGUER!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Write a new one for the orange POS!!!
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,300
    mr.mac said:
    NewJPage said:
    after barely a political peep at 2016 Wrigley, I think the days of overtly political PJ are over. Was a good run while it lasted!
    Eddie was VERY political at Pilgrimage last September.
    That's good to hear. I just know from seeing them many times that the politics have dropped noticealy since 2006/7 or so, both in songwriting and stage banter
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,300
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    The American in Me and Know Your Rights would be spectacular. And to those saying no thanks, they'd have to avoid half of their catalog. Most of their songs have social and political ties.
    Does pj even have ten political songs?
    Ever listen to riot act? More than 10 on that alone
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    PJWGIIIPJWGIII Chicago, IL Posts: 806
    edited February 2018
    Discopij said:
    but regarding Trump, i've always felt the best way to bug him is to ignore him and focus your energy on quietly undermining his causes through focusing on the next set of elections ... if a band like PJ makes headlines in the news that degrades him it makes him almost as happy as supporting his insanity ... he feeds off his ego and just wants to know people are talking about him even if it's negative stuff ... he's a lot like Kim Jong-un in that way.
    Couldn't agree more. My suggestion is that if the band wants to get political, they don't need to narrow things down to him. They can be more broad in what they say and talk about Trump's problems without bringing up the man himself or dropping the name. They can use their music for this as well. No need for big flashing headlines, just honest talk about how they feel about the way things are right now. That is my recommendation and I would find this to be more powerful than just bashing the president.

    However, they are who they are, and they can choose to make the respectful political statements they want to make, and I'm not going to get uncomfortable over a group of artists speaking their mind. It's not like I love the president anyway so if "Trumpleaguer" becomes a real thing, so be it! ;)  "Gimme Some Truth" would be the wiser direction to go IMO.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    NewJPage said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    The American in Me and Know Your Rights would be spectacular. And to those saying no thanks, they'd have to avoid half of their catalog. Most of their songs have social and political ties.
    Does pj even have ten political songs?
    Ever listen to riot act? More than 10 on that alone
    Political songs?  Bushleaguer is political and?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,216
    Looks like they added one to the list today.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    spnoonespnoone Posts: 625
    rock around barack. at both wrigley shows.
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,877
    Im all up for social and political. Some of my favourites are those songs. And the more passion from ed the better. Milton Keynes rant got the whole place going. I love the statements this band stand for.
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    samjamsamjam New York Posts: 9,283
    Gimme Some Truth would be awesome to hear this year!
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    curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,226
    gotthebottle said:
    mr bungle said:
    TRUMPLEAGUER!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Write a new one for the orange POS!!!

    Or just cover this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMfizVIKz-Q


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