jeffbr said:

Meltdown99 said:

jeffbr said:

I'm still not clear on why you ranted the way you did. I agree with many of your premises. I find it hypocritical of governments to ban weed, yet allow (and in some cases subsidize) alcohol, tobacco, opiods, etc... But your rants seemed to be directed at people looking for solutions to problems. Legalization is something that will benefit almost everyone. Perhaps not you as you apparently participate in a medical system that allows you access at a price you like. But this isn't a medical issue, it is a much bigger issue. Recreational weed can and does coexist with medical weed. In some states here in the US (like my state), recreational weed is taxed at a higher rate than medicinal. They destroyed the medical system here when recreational shops first opened. They had to regroup and figure it out, by making tweaks to laws. Many rec shops provide a 20% discount on prices for medical patients to offset the taxes. But opening up the market to both medicinal and recreational use completely changes the game. It has all but eliminated the black market here. A small market exists where people grow, and sell to friends but nobody is getting rich selling weed on the black market here. That happened because of pricing. When we first legalized, we had stupid prices while processors were trying to fill the supply pipeline. The black market continued to thrive and most seasoned smokers stayed away from the shops and kept buying from their local guy. But more product meant lower pricing, and taxes were adjusted as well, and pricing ended up at or below black market pricing. That meant that people could now buy weed knowing where and how it was grown, what the strain is, and do so without looking over their shoulder risking getting mugged or busted. It also went a long way toward general acceptance. Even non-consumers here are no longer terrified of reefer madness. For most people, stopping in at the weed shop is no different than stopping in at a liquor store. Having a beer at home is no different than roasting a bowl. Law enforcement is no longer trying to jam up anyone they might smell weed on. Criminal enterprises are no longer interested in weed, as there is no margin for it, at least not commensurate with the risk.
So while you may have an implementation issue with your local government, that will likely get ironed out over time, as experience is gained and data is collected. But you seem to want to throw out the baby with the bathwater, and it seems extremely counter productive. What you propose doesn't do anything to improve societal acceptance for weed, nor does it mitigate law enforcement's bias against weed. It sounds like you have no interest in improving the situation for everyone, and you're just cranky because it may affect your individual situation. That's a bummer.

I ranted because I’m sick of people thinking we should need the governments permission to use a product that is for most part is harmless and in my case has helped tremendously...I apologized...I’m pretty sure I’m not the only person who has ranted...once again sorry.

Hey man, sorry if it felt like I was piling on. Of course you aren't the only one who has ranted, and rants are often valid and therapeutic (although I really didn't want the thread locked, since we've already had at least 1 general weed thread locked which is why this one was started). That's why I turned my reply back toward me. I just wanted to provide perspective that at least in my case, while I wasn't a big supporter of legalization the way it was being drafted in my state, it ended up being closer to what I had hoped for than I thought it would. I was cranky about it it, and now I'm happy as a clam. Just trying to provide perspective and optimism. Glad cooler heads are prevailing. And Jose, totally agree with your post.

jeffbr said:

MakingWaves said:

I am traveling to Seattle for the first time in April. I’m excited about going and wanted to ask a couple of questions. I am staying in Bellevue because that is where the seminar I have to attend is located. I’m assuming there are plenty of shops to buy some weed but where should I go to smoke?  Any recommendations of what else to do while in the area would be appreciated. 
I’m assuming there are some Seattle locals here on this thread. 

That's the tricky part for visitors - where to smoke. Purchasing it is super easy. If you tell me where in Bellevue you will be, I can let you know of a couple of shops. My favorite shop, which we visit on our weekly errands, is located in Bellevue and always has good prices and a nice selection of flower, concentrate and edibles. As far as where to smoke? Well, it is technically illegal to smoke outdoors in public places. However, it is often done by locals and tourists alike, and if for some reason a cop sees it, the worst that will happen is that they'll tell you to put it out. Especially if you act dumb about it. If they are assholes, they can cite you, but it is similar to an open container ticket, and will run you about $27. But that is more hassle for them than it's worth, so they'll typically just tell you to put it out. When I'm in a weed unfriendly state, staying in a hotel, I just go into the bathroom, turn on the fan, put a rolled up towel under the door, start the shower, and smoke away.

As far as things to do, are you talking specifically about Bellevue? It is a nice smaller city, but doesn't have any sort of amazing night life or anything. There aren't a lot of clubs to see bands. It is more of an upscale place with malls with Neiman Marcus type stores but lots of good restaurants. There isn't really much to see in Bellevue. So I'd recommend popping over the bridge into Seattle for any sort of sightseeing, or taking in the local scene and night life.  Take in a soccer game at CenturyLink Field, or a baseball game at Safeco Field. Catch a show at the Showbox, visit Pike Place Market, hang out in Pioneer Square. Spend some time in West Seattle visiting Easy Street Records and the great cafes, restaurants, bars and shops nearby. Take a ferry ride. There are lots of things do to in Seattle both indoors and outdoors depending on your tolerance of wet weather. And you might get lucky and catch us during a sunny period in which case there is no place more beautiful. 

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

If you vape and it smells like pot ... then you likely got a cheap vap device.  My vap. I could use in a cop car and the cop would never know.

But you vape shatter or budder or oil... and that heats up on a heating coil inside your vape pen... and then you inhale SMOKE from that, not just water vapour. What you exhale is smoke, not vapour.... I don't see how it's possible that concentrated weed products like budder or shatter could be heated up and not produce any smell....

mrussel1 said:

I was in LA this week and stopped at a store and picked up some gummies and a disposable pen.  The pen is fantastic, no smell, little exhale smoke and it has a berry taste.  My wife likes it because I didn't reek after "going to the garage" last night.  California was cool, no hassle, just like Denver.  

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

I was in LA this week and stopped at a store and picked up some gummies and a disposable pen.  The pen is fantastic, no smell, little exhale smoke and it has a berry taste.  My wife likes it because I didn't reek after "going to the garage" last night.  California was cool, no hassle, just like Denver.  

"going to the garage"  That cracked me up.  That's what I tell my wife- "I'm going to the garage for a few minutes. "   

Yeah, the nice thing about vape pens- no need to run out to the garage!

I have 3 kids... still need to disappear!  One day too soon, I won't need to..