A Change in the Political Landscape

tempo_n_groove
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Hearing the younger people speak and their ideals had me thinking that the current leaders aren't listening or just don't get it.

This article on Diane Feinstein shows how the younger generation feels.

https://www.thenation.com/article/dianne-feinstein-isnt-too-old-but-she-is-too-out-of-touch/

I've mentioned before that I think that some of the current leaders are so far off from what people want now that there is going to be a huge political shift.

I see why they love Bernie Sanders and disliked Hillary.

Even coaching in sports are getting younger to appeal to the players.

The old guard is hanging on with a thread.

Thoughts?  Articles?
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited March 2018
    They also loved Trump enough to elect him president. They then all adopted his golf course style and murdered someone in a college town. Anybody see the MAGA hat on Nikolas Cruz's Instagram?  

    It's only going to get worse.

    Here's an article: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/world/americas/western-liberal-democracy.html

    It's based on a study by a Harvard lecturer in government and a political scientist at the University of Melbourne, but what do they know? 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,783
    dankind said:
    They also loved Trump enough to elect him president. They then all adopted his golf course style and murdered someone in a college town. Anybody see the MAGA hat on Nikolas Cruz's Instagram?  

    It's only going to get worse.

    Here's an article: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/world/americas/western-liberal-democracy.html

    It's based on a study by a Harvard lecturer in government and a political scientist at the University of Melbourne, but what do they know? 
    It’s good to have your passport and one suitcase ready at all times , the orange bafoon is learning all he can from
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    Putin..
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    These things are cyclical. The younger generation always sees the faults of the generations before it, rises to power, becomes blind to its own faults and then is replaced by the next generation.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    JimmyV said:
    These things are cyclical. The younger generation always sees the faults of the generations before it, rises to power, becomes blind to its own faults and then is replaced by the next generation.
    I view what is going on now as what happened in the 60's.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JimmyV said:
    These things are cyclical. The younger generation always sees the faults of the generations before it, rises to power, becomes blind to its own faults and then is replaced by the next generation.
    I view what is going on now as what happened in the 60's.
    I view it more like what happened in the 1930s -- in Germany.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JimmyV said:
    These things are cyclical. The younger generation always sees the faults of the generations before it, rises to power, becomes blind to its own faults and then is replaced by the next generation.
    I view what is going on now as what happened in the 60's.
    I do as well. Nixon was of course far more competent than Trump, which is what makes today seem so much worse.
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JimmyV said:
    These things are cyclical. The younger generation always sees the faults of the generations before it, rises to power, becomes blind to its own faults and then is replaced by the next generation.
    I view what is going on now as what happened in the 60's.
    I view it more like what happened in the 1930s -- in Germany.
    Wait, so the younger democrats ousting people like Hillary and Finestein are like the 30's in Germany?  Please explain @dankind
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    JimmyV said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JimmyV said:
    These things are cyclical. The younger generation always sees the faults of the generations before it, rises to power, becomes blind to its own faults and then is replaced by the next generation.
    I view what is going on now as what happened in the 60's.
    I do as well. Nixon was of course far more competent than Trump, which is what makes today seem so much worse.
    People were wanting someone different, well they got one.

    The democrats will have to organize and listen to their fanbase a little more close rather than try and ram a candidate down everyone's throat.
  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    I think there is a youth movement both in a liberal sense and a libertarian sense. It’s not shows offen in the media but there are huge basis of college aged conservatives as well as liberals. People like Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder are packing college auditoriums. 
    I think it’s awesome, young people being involved in current events regardless of view point 
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    JimmyV said:
    These things are cyclical. The younger generation always sees the faults of the generations before it, rises to power, becomes blind to its own faults and then is replaced by the next generation.
    I view what is going on now as what happened in the 60's.
    I view it more like what happened in the 1930s -- in Germany.
    Wait, so the younger democrats ousting people like Hillary and Finestein are like the 30's in Germany?  Please explain @dankind
    I don't need to explain. The study by those far smarter than I from Harvard University and University of Melbourne does a far better job than I would do. Take a look. Chilling stuff.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    riley540 said:
    I think there is a youth movement both in a liberal sense and a libertarian sense. It’s not shows offen in the media but there are huge basis of college aged conservatives as well as liberals. People like Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder are packing college auditoriums. 
    I think it’s awesome, young people being involved in current events regardless of view point 
    Yeah. They sure did have a ball down in Charlottesville.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    To be fair to today's youth, their only real experience has been with a government that in many ways has ceased to function and with an electoral system that utterly failed in 2016. So I can understand questioning whether this particular democratic republic is the best system possible.
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  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    JimmyV said:
    To be fair to today's youth, their only real experience has been with a government that in many ways has ceased to function and with an electoral system that utterly failed in 2016. So I can understand questioning whether this particular democratic republic is the best system possible.
    JimmyV said:
    To be fair to today's youth, their only real experience has been with a government that in many ways has ceased to function and with an electoral system that utterly failed in 2016. So I can understand questioning whether this particular democratic republic is the best system possible.
    I’m not a trump supporter, but I don’t see how the electoral system failed? It worked in the way that it always does. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    riley540 said:
    JimmyV said:
    To be fair to today's youth, their only real experience has been with a government that in many ways has ceased to function and with an electoral system that utterly failed in 2016. So I can understand questioning whether this particular democratic republic is the best system possible.
    JimmyV said:
    To be fair to today's youth, their only real experience has been with a government that in many ways has ceased to function and with an electoral system that utterly failed in 2016. So I can understand questioning whether this particular democratic republic is the best system possible.
    I’m not a trump supporter, but I don’t see how the electoral system failed? It worked in the way that it always does. 
    One party nominated a shockingly unqualified businessman while the other party nominated an unpopular career politician who was the subject of a known and active FBI investigation. The election itself saw the clear winner of the popular vote get wiped out in the Electoral College. Maybe the system itself worked, but very few involved can honestly claim they didn't screw it up.
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  • NewJPage
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    riley540 said:
    I think there is a youth movement both in a liberal sense and a libertarian sense. It’s not shows offen in the media but there are huge basis of college aged conservatives as well as liberals. People like Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder are packing college auditoriums. 
    I think it’s awesome, young people being involved in current events regardless of view point 
    Latest Suffolk poll has 22% of millenials ID as conservative. New generation is quite liberal
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JimmyV said:
    riley540 said:
    JimmyV said:
    To be fair to today's youth, their only real experience has been with a government that in many ways has ceased to function and with an electoral system that utterly failed in 2016. So I can understand questioning whether this particular democratic republic is the best system possible.
    JimmyV said:
    To be fair to today's youth, their only real experience has been with a government that in many ways has ceased to function and with an electoral system that utterly failed in 2016. So I can understand questioning whether this particular democratic republic is the best system possible.
    I’m not a trump supporter, but I don’t see how the electoral system failed? It worked in the way that it always does. 
    One party nominated a shockingly unqualified businessman while the other party nominated an unpopular career politician who was the subject of a known and active FBI investigation. The election itself saw the clear winner of the popular vote get wiped out in the Electoral College. Maybe the system itself worked, but very few involved can honestly claim they didn't screw it up.
    And one candidate got an assist from Russia.
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  • JimmyV
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    riley540 said:
    JimmyV said:
    To be fair to today's youth, their only real experience has been with a government that in many ways has ceased to function and with an electoral system that utterly failed in 2016. So I can understand questioning whether this particular democratic republic is the best system possible.
    JimmyV said:
    To be fair to today's youth, their only real experience has been with a government that in many ways has ceased to function and with an electoral system that utterly failed in 2016. So I can understand questioning whether this particular democratic republic is the best system possible.
    I’m not a trump supporter, but I don’t see how the electoral system failed? It worked in the way that it always does. 
    One party nominated a shockingly unqualified businessman while the other party nominated an unpopular career politician who was the subject of a known and active FBI investigation. The election itself saw the clear winner of the popular vote get wiped out in the Electoral College. Maybe the system itself worked, but very few involved can honestly claim they didn't screw it up.
    And one candidate got an assist from Russia.
    Not the point I was making but, sure.
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  • brianlux
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Hearing the younger people speak and their ideals had me thinking that the current leaders aren't listening or just don't get it.

    This article on Diane Feinstein shows how the younger generation feels.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/dianne-feinstein-isnt-too-old-but-she-is-too-out-of-touch/

    I've mentioned before that I think that some of the current leaders are so far off from what people want now that there is going to be a huge political shift.

    I see why they love Bernie Sanders and disliked Hillary.

    Even coaching in sports are getting younger to appeal to the players.

    The old guard is hanging on with a thread.

    Thoughts?  Articles?
    Jello had Feinstein figured out almost 40 years ago.  Go to 2:00 in the video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJy_pT78fTU

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  • tempo_n_groove
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    dankind said:
    They also loved Trump enough to elect him president. They then all adopted his golf course style and murdered someone in a college town. Anybody see the MAGA hat on Nikolas Cruz's Instagram?  

    It's only going to get worse.

    Here's an article: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/world/americas/western-liberal-democracy.html

    It's based on a study by a Harvard lecturer in government and a political scientist at the University of Melbourne, but what do they know? 
    I read the article. 

    It's basically saying that all the free world and it's democracies are declining and that people actually want a military run system of ruling.

    That is just crazy.

    Most of the people that are fleeing their war torn countries want that?

    Most of the people that live here want to live in a police state?

    Again, that is just crazy!

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