Silencing Opposing Speech

oftenreading · February 2018

Did you really want a discussion? It doesn't seem so. You haven't responded to those who commented, other than to globally dismiss them.

Halifax2TheMax · February 2018

unsung said:

Case in point.

I didn't say anything about the First Amendment and the fight against govt.

Yeah, a private company can decide what is on its platform, but it doesn't change the fact that anything right of Elizabeth Warren is often deleted.

And not one of you even bothered to have a discussion, instead you all go mob style to discredit and silence instead of attempting any meaningful conversation.

No surprise though. The alt-left are the real fascists.

Care to answer my question?

JimmyV · February 2018

unsung said:

Case in point.

I didn't say anything about the First Amendment and the fight against govt.

Yeah, a private company can decide what is on its platform, but it doesn't change the fact that anything right of Elizabeth Warren is often deleted.

And not one of you even bothered to have a discussion, instead you all go mob style to discredit and silence instead of attempting any meaningful conversation.

No surprise though. The alt-left are the real fascists.

In one paragraph you accuse others of not being interested in having a meaningful conversation. In the next you call them fascists.

brianlux · February 2018

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

riley540 · February 2018

YouTube is private, they can do what they want. Although I do appreciate multiple viewpoints and the option to watch varying content. YouTube does have a bias. right leaning content will often be demonitized. Dave Ruben did a video called “capitalism is great” or something similar, and it was demonitized. He then experimented and made a video called “socialism is great” and it wasn’t demonitized. And sources like the young Turks never have any issues and speak are far left agenda.

That being said, YouTube can do as they please. Private company!

oftenreading · February 2018

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

JimmyV · February 2018

Alex Jones has made a lot of money trafficking in conspiracy theories he knows to be untrue for a very long time. If YouTube has had enough of him and his act he has brought that down on himself. That his Alt-Right followers and fellow travelers are unable to see anything wrong with his behavior is not YouTube's problem.

rgambs · February 2018

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

Yeah and It's not just falsehoods, its delusional insanity.
He has purposefully cultivated a fanbase which is literally insane. He has gathered and created a following of millions of mentally ill people who believe the Earth is flat, the world is ruled by humanoid lizards, and every tragedy is a nefarious false flag.
Every time Alex Jones opens his mouth about an individual, that individual gets death threats from paranoid delusional maniacs.
He knows this, and he continues despite the fact that he has no credible evidence for anything he says.
He should have been banned years ago.

Big Bank Hank · February 2018

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5021252/uploads/editor/ti/l1fms2o1sbdp.jpg

LOL, we always bashed Russia for not allowing their citizens to make conflicting statements to the Government, now we are doing the same thing in the United States, you are attempting the limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, because most of us aren't actually there, and we have to accept others accounts, they could be completely full of shit and we'd never know, unless we have them on video tape or something. Otherwise you are accepting the words of people you never met on a willingness to believe, a leap of, dare I say it, faith.

JimmyV · February 2018

Big Bank Hank said:

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

LOL, we always bashed Russia for not allowing their citizens to make conflicting statements to the Government, now we are doing the same thing in the United States, you are attempting the limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, because most of us aren't actually there, and we have to accept others accounts, they could be completely full of shit and we'd never know, unless we have them on video tape or something. Otherwise you are accepting the words of people you never met on a willingness to believe, a leap of, dare I say it, faith.

Alex Jones insists the Newtown shootings never happened and declared the Boston Marathon attack a "false-flag" as it was happening. These are just two of his many blatant lies. Holding him accountable for those lies has nothing to do with criticizing the government.

rgambs · February 2018

Big Bank Hank said:

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

LOL, we always bashed Russia for not allowing their citizens to make conflicting statements to the Government, now we are doing the same thing in the United States, you are attempting the limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, because most of us aren't actually there, and we have to accept others accounts, they could be completely full of shit and we'd never know, unless we have them on video tape or something. Otherwise you are accepting the words of people you never met on a willingness to believe, a leap of, dare I say it, faith.

Do you have any children in your life that you have loved?
Imagine that child was murdered by a shitworm at grade school.
Now imagine dealing with that and also being harassed and getting death threats for a decade by fucking nutters who heard from Alex Jones that not only was your child not murdered, but never existed in the first place.
Alex Jones is scum and his followers are scum too

Big Bank Hank · February 2018

JimmyV said:

Big Bank Hank said:

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

LOL, we always bashed Russia for not allowing their citizens to make conflicting statements to the Government, now we are doing the same thing in the United States, you are attempting the limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, because most of us aren't actually there, and we have to accept others accounts, they could be completely full of shit and we'd never know, unless we have them on video tape or something. Otherwise you are accepting the words of people you never met on a willingness to believe, a leap of, dare I say it, faith.

Alex Jones insists the Newtown shootings never happened and declared the Boston Marathon attack a "false-flag" as it was happening. These are just two of his many blatant lies. Holding him accountable for those lies has nothing to do with criticizing the government.

and you aren't smart enough to figure out he's full of shit? you don't give people enough credit for freedom of choice & belief, you believe in a lot of things you have no proof of

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5021252/uploads/editor/a4/rbytuypkhqbh.jpg

Halifax2TheMax · February 2018

Big Bank Hank said:

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

LOL, we always bashed Russia for not allowing their citizens to make conflicting statements to the Government, now we are doing the same thing in the United States, you are attempting the limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, because most of us aren't actually there, and we have to accept others accounts, they could be completely full of shit and we'd never know, unless we have them on video tape or something. Otherwise you are accepting the words of people you never met on a willingness to believe, a leap of, dare I say it, faith.

Opinion not based in fact and unhinged from reality shouldn't be propagated, considered an alternative opinion or given serious consideration in the "spectrum of acceptable opinion." Its waaaaaay far outside the "spectrum of acceptable opinion."

JimmyV · February 2018

Big Bank Hank said:

JimmyV said:

Big Bank Hank said:

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

LOL, we always bashed Russia for not allowing their citizens to make conflicting statements to the Government, now we are doing the same thing in the United States, you are attempting the limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, because most of us aren't actually there, and we have to accept others accounts, they could be completely full of shit and we'd never know, unless we have them on video tape or something. Otherwise you are accepting the words of people you never met on a willingness to believe, a leap of, dare I say it, faith.

Alex Jones insists the Newtown shootings never happened and declared the Boston Marathon attack a "false-flag" as it was happening. These are just two of his many blatant lies. Holding him accountable for those lies has nothing to do with criticizing the government.

and you aren't smart enough to figure out he's full of shit? you don't give people enough credit for freedom of choice & belief, you believe in a lot of things you have no proof of

Of course he's full of shit. His problem isn't that I know it. It is that YouTube doesn't want him and his particular brand of shit on its platform. No one has told Jones he cannot be hateful and disingenuous. No one has taken away his right to free speech.

Halifax2TheMax · February 2018

http://irishantiwar.org/archives/forum/000404.htmlAlex Jones makes a fool of himself interviewing Noam Chomsky

http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8712 Above is a link to an audio interview between Alex Jones and Noam Chomsky. The interview went well, they spoke well and agreed on pretty much everything of note until it came to the end. Y'see Jones is a big champion of gun owners and the "right to bear arms". It is a fact that the United States has more gun deaths per year than any other country. In fact, it is unique in this regard -- the difference in numbers is dramatic when you compare the figure with that of any other country. It's also common sense that where there's more guns there will be more deaths, accidental or otherwise. It breaks down into three categories, homicides, suicides and accidental killings. I don't know about last year but in 2001 there were 30,000, yes THIRTY THOUSAND people killed from gunfire in the United States of America. Jones, however, said that in the UK more people die of gun deaths. Chomsky countered it with a fact that didn't match Jones's point of view. After the interview ends Jones says "I knew it, Chomsky is New World Order scum etc." Jones goes on to talk about how much smarter he is than Chomsky and that Chomsky came on his show to undermine him or something. If you listen to the interview, Jones comes across as a narcissist at the end. As I've said before there is a degree of jealousy that he has directed at the likes of Chomsky and Michael Moore, not because Chomsky and Moore are more talented (I think they are) but because they are more capable of critical debate than Jones is, who appears to jump the gun all the time. Just when I was getting to really admire Jones and his work he has to say that "Noam Chomsky is New World Order scum" and "Chomsky sat there and tried to use groupthink on us" and "Chomsky, you're a New World Order shill and I've got twice the brain you got with both arms tied behind my back" (not to Chomsky when he was on the phone; afterwards to himself). He then denies well-known facts, and quotes by the likes of James Madison who talked about "the wealth of the nation", "the more capable class of men" and that the goal of government is "to protect the minority of the oppulent against the majority". Jones's precious Founding Fathers gave him the right, as he interpreted it, to shoot guns in his back yard in Texas and he somehow related that to present day gun deaths in America and also denies that the quotes that Chomsky says are factual. Although it's more complicated than this, Jones thinks that the government wants to take away guns from people so that when there is a "police takeover" military style (which is possible of course), the populace won't be able to defend themselves. Well, if I was a New World Order planner of the most powerful country in the world with the most advanced military in the world with 10,000 plus nuclear weapons and a well-trained and funded army and I happened to want to disarm the populace, do you think I'd care about the handguns and rifles people keep in their homes, or that they would be in any way a threat to the most powerful army in the world? Read the Second Amendment and link it to what Jones is saying: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Alex Jones, I still admire your passion and your work, but I think you need to become a little bit more objective. And you should be ashamed of yourself for ridiculing Chomsky AFTER he got off the phone. Chomksy would eat you for breakfast in any debate.

rgambs · February 2018

@Big Bank Hank
What do you think about the point I made, that he knowingly incites threats of violence with personal defamations based on ZERO credibli evidence?

CM189191 · February 2018

unsung said:

Case in point.

I didn't say anything about the First Amendment and the fight against govt.

Yeah, a private company can decide what is on its platform, but it doesn't change the fact that anything right of Elizabeth Warren is often deleted.

And not one of you even bothered to have a discussion, instead you all go mob style to discredit and silence instead of attempting any meaningful conversation.

No surprise though. The alt-left are the real fascists.

Add fascism to the list of things unsung doesn't understand

oftenreading · February 2018

Big Bank Hank said:

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

LOL, we always bashed Russia for not allowing their citizens to make conflicting statements to the Government, now we are doing the same thing in the United States, you are attempting the limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, because most of us aren't actually there, and we have to accept others accounts, they could be completely full of shit and we'd never know, unless we have them on video tape or something. Otherwise you are accepting the words of people you never met on a willingness to believe, a leap of, dare I say it, faith.

No, I’m fairly certain the child sex rings on Mars don’t exist and I’m comfortable believing that even if I haven’t been there to check. You can choose to do otherwise if you wish. You can, in fact, start your own media channel, but you can’t insist that other people facilitate it, just like Jones can’t.

Merkin Baller · February 2018

oftenreading said:

Big Bank Hank said:

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

LOL, we always bashed Russia for not allowing their citizens to make conflicting statements to the Government, now we are doing the same thing in the United States, you are attempting the limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, because most of us aren't actually there, and we have to accept others accounts, they could be completely full of shit and we'd never know, unless we have them on video tape or something. Otherwise you are accepting the words of people you never met on a willingness to believe, a leap of, dare I say it, faith.

No, I’m fairly certain the child sex rings on Mars don’t exist and I’m comfortable believing that even if I haven’t been there to check. You can choose to do otherwise if you wish. You can, in fact, start your own media channel, but you can’t insist that other people facilitate it, just like Jones can’t.

lol

Big Bank Hank · February 2018

Halifax2TheMax said:

Big Bank Hank said:

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

Unless he says something false about an individual or makes threats on YouTube, I'd have to say a ban is not a good idea. But who watches that creep anyway? If he were ignored, he would go away. Just don't watch dumb shit.

Have you watched Alex Jones? It’s rare that he actually says anything true about anyone. He probably hits a few dozen falsehoods each episode.

LOL, we always bashed Russia for not allowing their citizens to make conflicting statements to the Government, now we are doing the same thing in the United States, you are attempting the limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, because most of us aren't actually there, and we have to accept others accounts, they could be completely full of shit and we'd never know, unless we have them on video tape or something. Otherwise you are accepting the words of people you never met on a willingness to believe, a leap of, dare I say it, faith.

Opinion not based in fact and unhinged from reality shouldn't be propagated, considered an alternative opinion or given serious consideration in the "spectrum of acceptable opinion." Its waaaaaay far outside the "spectrum of acceptable opinion."

what facts? you are accepting the words of people you never met and accepting it on a willingness to believe that's faith because you never actually witnessed it so that entire statement is complete BS!

Silencing Opposing Speech

Comments

http://irishantiwar.org/archives/forum/000404.htmlAlex Jones makes a fool of himself interviewing Noam Chomsky

Categories