** THE IMPENDING IMPEACHMENT OR RESIGNATION OF DONALD J TRUMP **

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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,486
    I don't use social media.  This is my only outlet, consider yourself blessed.
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,479
    unsung said:
    I don't use social media.  This is my only outlet, consider yourself blessed.
    In Mother Russia, social media uses you!!
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,905
    unsung said:
    I don't use social media.  This is my only outlet, consider yourself blessed.

    Your "only outlet"? Ah, so it's the frustration that's doing it. 
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 7,572
    unsung said:
    That is what this all is about.  Right or wrong?

    If it is not right say so, say how millions of dollars were spent wisely to uncover this foreign influence.

    If it is ok to have foreign influence, then admit that it was all a waste.


    I think people on here tend to conflate ethics and law, and propose legal outcomes for unethical behaviour.

    I don’t care who tries to influence. Influence comes from everywhere in the world, inside and out of America. You know how to combat undue thought control? Teach your damn society to listen and think. Just as guns are enablers for mass shootings, a society lacking critical thought is an enabler for undue thought control. Americans will continue to be exploited until this educational deficiency goes away. Ego must go too - none of this matters when so many value being right over being righteous.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,486
    If people are able to determine if outside influence is good or bad then why are we worried that foreigners are creating fake social media profiles in order to project that influence?

    If Russian influence is bad then is Mexico's?  Israel?  Who determines what influence is legal?
  • unsung said:
    If people are able to determine if outside influence is good or bad then why are we worried that foreigners are creating fake social media profiles in order to project that influence?

    If Russian influence is bad then is Mexico's?  Israel?  Who determines what influence is legal?
    Read the indictment.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,161
    unsung said:
    If people are able to determine if outside influence is good or bad then why are we worried that foreigners are creating fake social media profiles in order to project that influence?

    If Russian influence is bad then is Mexico's?  Israel?  Who determines what influence is legal?
    I think the law determines what’s legal. 
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WAPosts: 8,639
    Zero chance of a successful impeachment where they can remove him from office, because you need 67 votes in the Senate, there is zero chance of that, I hate to rain on your impeachment parade, next time study the actual rules, there are not enough John McCain's & Lindsey Graham's who'd defect, a much better bet and one where I'd take ALL OF YOUR MONEY (if we were really betting) is that he gets voted out or chooses not to seek reelection in 2020, that's a much more realistic outcome

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  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WAPosts: 8,639
    tbergs said:
    did you ever pour through Barack Obama's Presidential pardons? I did, and the majority of them were upper level cocaine dealers, coincidentally he helped Hezbollah smuggle cocaine into America to save the Iran nuclear deal, so believe whatever you want, but he is not who you think he is, and I have lots of evidence to back me up

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,678
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    Zero chance of a successful impeachment where they can remove him from office, because you need 67 votes in the Senate, there is zero chance of that, I hate to rain on your impeachment parade, next time study the actual rules, there are not enough John McCain's & Lindsey Graham's who'd defect, a much better bet and one where I'd take ALL OF YOUR MONEY (if we were really betting) is that he gets voted out or chooses not to seek reelection in 2020, that's a much more realistic outcome

    I've always assumed everyone here actually knows impeachment's not realistic.  The GOP has proven that it puts Trump before country. 
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  • With the House flipping in 2018, impeachment hearings will be held, provided Team Mueller reports the crimes I believe he will, namely obstruction of justice, money laundering, FICA violations, tax evasion and perhaps, others. The House will vote to impeach and he'll be impeached. The Senate, having a slim democrat majority after the 2018 mid-terms will hold a trial. The egregiousness of the crimes, 1/3 of senators up for re-election and the 2020 presidential election a year and a half away, it won't be out of reach to reach the  67 required to find Team Trump Treason guilty and remove him from office. If not, after the House impeaches Team Trump Treason, the repubes will pay dearly at the polls. This will make Watergate look like child's play.
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  • Zero chance of a successful impeachment where they can remove him from office, because you need 67 votes in the Senate, there is zero chance of that, I hate to rain on your impeachment parade, next time study the actual rules, there are not enough John McCain's & Lindsey Graham's who'd defect, a much better bet and one where I'd take ALL OF YOUR MONEY (if we were really betting) is that he gets voted out or chooses not to seek reelection in 2020, that's a much more realistic outcome

    What makes you think we haven't "studied the rules?"
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,486
    unsung said:
    If people are able to determine if outside influence is good or bad then why are we worried that foreigners are creating fake social media profiles in order to project that influence?

    If Russian influence is bad then is Mexico's?  Israel?  Who determines what influence is legal?
    I think the law determines what’s legal. 
    So the law states that creating fake social media profiles is illegal?
  • unsung said:
    unsung said:
    If people are able to determine if outside influence is good or bad then why are we worried that foreigners are creating fake social media profiles in order to project that influence?

    If Russian influence is bad then is Mexico's?  Israel?  Who determines what influence is legal?
    I think the law determines what’s legal. 
    So the law states that creating fake social media profiles is illegal?
    Read the indictment.
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  • The dots are being connected, slowly, methodically and precisely. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock goes the impeachment clock.

    Why You Shouldn’t Be a Russiagate Skeptic - POLITICO https://apple.news/AlRZl3bmFQvOqwDa520n7zA
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,700
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    Zero chance of a successful impeachment where they can remove him from office, because you need 67 votes in the Senate, there is zero chance of that, I hate to rain on your impeachment parade, next time study the actual rules, there are not enough John McCain's & Lindsey Graham's who'd defect, a much better bet and one where I'd take ALL OF YOUR MONEY (if we were really betting) is that he gets voted out or chooses not to seek reelection in 2020, that's a much more realistic outcome

    So we shouldn't bank on it, Hank?

    Aren't you the guy who put up one of those "Goodbye Threads" only to not leave?

    I don't know if we can trust you...

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  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WAPosts: 8,639
    Zero chance of a successful impeachment where they can remove him from office, because you need 67 votes in the Senate, there is zero chance of that, I hate to rain on your impeachment parade, next time study the actual rules, there are not enough John McCain's & Lindsey Graham's who'd defect, a much better bet and one where I'd take ALL OF YOUR MONEY (if we were really betting) is that he gets voted out or chooses not to seek reelection in 2020, that's a much more realistic outcome

    So we shouldn't bank on it, Hank?

    Aren't you the guy who put up one of those "Goodbye Threads" only to not leave?

    I don't know if we can trust you...

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,161
    I love Bernie. But if I think about what if, I’ll start to openly weep. 
  • Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WAPosts: 8,639
    I love Bernie. But if I think about what if, I’ll start to openly weep. 
    exactly, he would have destroyed Trump in the rust belt states, it would have been an easy win, Hillary didn't even campaign in Michigan or Wisconsin

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  • Yup, Manafort and Gates are totally screwed. But you know what’s really interesting? There are “conspirators” who remain unnamed. And that Manafort and Gates pulled it off with less than 20 shell companies. And you know what else is interesting? Team Trump Treason has 600+ shell companies.

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,700
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    Was reading something about how Manafort still may not cooperate because he is more scared of Putin poisoning him or offing a family member or something than anything Mueller can do to him... 
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  • Was reading something about how Manafort still may not cooperate because he is more scared of Putin poisoning him or offing a family member or something than anything Mueller can do to him... 
    He owed or owes $18 million to. Russian oligarch. Hello? Witness protection?
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  • And another one has flipped. Team Mueller is getting closer. Manafort, your move? Watcha gonna do? Team Trump Mueller going to remain silent or rage on Twitter this weekend? 

    Rick Gates, Trump Campaign Aide, to Plead Guilty in Mueller Inquiry and Cooperate - The New York Times https://apple.news/A6P9dgMxmT_Ch-qTEp79VcQ
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,700
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    So apparently Trump lead a “lock her up” chant at the same time Gates was pleading guilty. 

    You cannot make this up. 
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  • So, what else are we going to learn about Team Trump Treason? Jared Dear Boy still can’t get a full security clearance. Why is that?

    Lawyer for Susan Rice: Obama administration 'justifiably concerned' about sharing intel with Trump team - POLITICO https://apple.news/AEVqWh3CJSUG0-jultpc4Lw
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  • Welcome Team Mueller

    https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/politics/meet-the-mueller-team/index.html

    But wait! Hillary’s a lawyer and Obama’s a lawyer too. They didn’t make first string? Oh, that’s right, they’re too busy taking your guns away.
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  • Manafort was paying ex European politicians to lobby for favorable pro Putin Ukraine policies. Manafort was Team Trump Treason's campaign chairman. What was the only GOP plank to be altered at the Republican convention?

    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.
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  • Schiff’s and the Dems’ counter memo to the Nunes smokescreen nothingburger memo has been released. Pay particular attention to the footnotes and citations, if you bother to read it.

    3D, what’s your D’ing?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 19,887
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    Kinda funny how here we are, fat and overweight from all those nothingburgers. But not quite satisfied.
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  • It’s really interesting, 8 years of Obama being made to fail. Because he’s black. White america convulsed. Brought out the worst in the Republican leadership. Remember, they wouldn’t even go to the White House Christmas party. Their first priority was to make “this president fail.” Despite that, Obama passed ACA, brought unemployment down to 4.3%. He also tried, tried and tried to do something after Sandy Hook, but again, he’s black. Imagine if half of what he’d proposed was passed? But you know, Carter had solar panels on the White House, imagine 1976. Reagan took them off. Today, energy can be produced by fluctuations in temperature and motion. But Rick Perry is investing in “clean coal.” At the direction of Team Trump Treason. So go ahead, blame the internet. Own your demise.
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