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and a cheater in every sense of the word just ask Melania ....you have set your bar so low you might as well just post lying down , so its ok to have no moral compass , to degrade people of all walks of life/race to be corrupt belive me you don't get to be a realstate billionaire in NY by being honest Joe ....BS44325 said:
I didn't say that is why he lost. You need to read my post again. He lost because as decent as he was he was inauthentic and did not come across as a fighter. The Obama campaign themselves have stated that they buried Romney in negative ads and that the election was over even before the convention. I believe it. Romney was too decent to fight back. Trump is a New York billionaire with less of a track record then Romney but he convinced his voters that he would fight for them. The base did not want character. They wanted a fighter.rgambs said:
Yeah, I have to go with Matt and say, this is baloney.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
Romney got obliterated because he was an exceptional emblem of the cause of the recession trying to get elected to fix the recession. The attacks didn't defeat him, that's just a nice fantasy concocted to explain a defeat that should have been painfully obvious.
To say that he lost the election because he was painted as a bigot doesn't really square with the actual bigot winning the next election. Why didn't the various collections of bigots turn out and win the day for Romney? Oh, right, you don't really believe in racists and bigots, only in false accusations of racism and bigotry.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Ha...for the record it looks like more people have been forced out of the FBI for wrong doing then the Trump administration to date. Russia, Russia, Russia is ending deep state careers on a daily basis. Only a fighter could produce that result.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don't think they bargained for a fighter, fighting their way into an impeachment corner. Brilliance and all. And without the assist from Russia, Russia, Russia, he wouldn't be fighting at all.BS44325 said:
I didn't say that is why he lost. You need to read my post again. He lost because as decent as he was he was inauthentic and did not come across as a fighter. The Obama campaign themselves have stated that they buried Romney in negative ads and that the election was over even before the convention. I believe it. Romney was too decent to fight back. Trump is a New York billionaire with less of a track record then Romney but he convinced his voters that he would fight for them. The base did not want character. They wanted a fighter.rgambs said:
Yeah, I have to go with Matt and say, this is baloney.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
Romney got obliterated because he was an exceptional emblem of the cause of the recession trying to get elected to fix the recession. The attacks didn't defeat him, that's just a nice fantasy concocted to explain a defeat that should have been painfully obvious.
To say that he lost the election because he was painted as a bigot doesn't really square with the actual bigot winning the next election. Why didn't the various collections of bigots turn out and win the day for Romney? Oh, right, you don't really believe in racists and bigots, only in false accusations of racism and bigotry.0 -
That is what I just said. Please try to keep up.Halifax2TheMax said:
Mitt was perceived as an old, stodgy white guy from the 50's, out of touch with today's generation, needing "a binder full of women" to choose from for his administration because he didn't know any or have experience with working with any. That and his 47% comment showed the world who he really was/is. Completely out of touch with the average Joe, like Joe the Plumber, remember him? and the Daily Caller? Jeesh.BS44325 said:
Here's Time MagazineHughFreakingDillon said:
I won't claim to have been as much of a follower of US politics then as I am now, but I don't recall him being painted as any of those.BS44325 said:
Ahhh....so Romney just fit that mold.HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't recall anyone being "turned into" a racist, misogynist or nazi, unless they have fit the mold themselves quite clearly. I don't recall any federal candidate that has ever been accused, in modern history, of any of those things.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
http://ideas.time.com/2012/07/12/romney-plays-the-race-card/
Here's the Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/02/mitt-romneys-shockingly-racist-acceptance-speech/
Just type Mitt Romney Racist into Google and you will get an endless list of articles
And let's not forget how "Binder full of women" was evidence of a War on Women.0 -
No. I didn't say it's ok. I said people were willing to choose "no moral compass" Trump over the "no moral compass" alternative. The election didn't take place in a vacuum.josevolution said:
and a cheater in every sense of the word just ask Melania ....you have set your bar so low you might as well just post lying down , so its ok to have no moral compass , to degrade people of all walks of life/race to be corrupt belive me you don't get to be a realstate billionaire in NY by being honest Joe ....BS44325 said:
I didn't say that is why he lost. You need to read my post again. He lost because as decent as he was he was inauthentic and did not come across as a fighter. The Obama campaign themselves have stated that they buried Romney in negative ads and that the election was over even before the convention. I believe it. Romney was too decent to fight back. Trump is a New York billionaire with less of a track record then Romney but he convinced his voters that he would fight for them. The base did not want character. They wanted a fighter.rgambs said:
Yeah, I have to go with Matt and say, this is baloney.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
Romney got obliterated because he was an exceptional emblem of the cause of the recession trying to get elected to fix the recession. The attacks didn't defeat him, that's just a nice fantasy concocted to explain a defeat that should have been painfully obvious.
To say that he lost the election because he was painted as a bigot doesn't really square with the actual bigot winning the next election. Why didn't the various collections of bigots turn out and win the day for Romney? Oh, right, you don't really believe in racists and bigots, only in false accusations of racism and bigotry.0 -
That's not what you said. You said he was demonized as a nazi, racist and misogynist by the Obama campaign. Although he did blow the dog whistle, consciously or not.BS44325 said:
That is what I just said. Please try to keep up.Halifax2TheMax said:
Mitt was perceived as an old, stodgy white guy from the 50's, out of touch with today's generation, needing "a binder full of women" to choose from for his administration because he didn't know any or have experience with working with any. That and his 47% comment showed the world who he really was/is. Completely out of touch with the average Joe, like Joe the Plumber, remember him? and the Daily Caller? Jeesh.BS44325 said:
Here's Time MagazineHughFreakingDillon said:
I won't claim to have been as much of a follower of US politics then as I am now, but I don't recall him being painted as any of those.BS44325 said:
Ahhh....so Romney just fit that mold.HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't recall anyone being "turned into" a racist, misogynist or nazi, unless they have fit the mold themselves quite clearly. I don't recall any federal candidate that has ever been accused, in modern history, of any of those things.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
http://ideas.time.com/2012/07/12/romney-plays-the-race-card/
Here's the Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/02/mitt-romneys-shockingly-racist-acceptance-speech/
Just type Mitt Romney Racist into Google and you will get an endless list of articles
And let's not forget how "Binder full of women" was evidence of a War on Women.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Tell me what McCabe did wrong again? And who else?BS44325 said:
Ha...for the record it looks like more people have been forced out of the FBI for wrong doing then the Trump administration to date. Russia, Russia, Russia is ending deep state careers on a daily basis. Only a fighter could produce that result.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don't think they bargained for a fighter, fighting their way into an impeachment corner. Brilliance and all. And without the assist from Russia, Russia, Russia, he wouldn't be fighting at all.BS44325 said:
I didn't say that is why he lost. You need to read my post again. He lost because as decent as he was he was inauthentic and did not come across as a fighter. The Obama campaign themselves have stated that they buried Romney in negative ads and that the election was over even before the convention. I believe it. Romney was too decent to fight back. Trump is a New York billionaire with less of a track record then Romney but he convinced his voters that he would fight for them. The base did not want character. They wanted a fighter.rgambs said:
Yeah, I have to go with Matt and say, this is baloney.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
Romney got obliterated because he was an exceptional emblem of the cause of the recession trying to get elected to fix the recession. The attacks didn't defeat him, that's just a nice fantasy concocted to explain a defeat that should have been painfully obvious.
To say that he lost the election because he was painted as a bigot doesn't really square with the actual bigot winning the next election. Why didn't the various collections of bigots turn out and win the day for Romney? Oh, right, you don't really believe in racists and bigots, only in false accusations of racism and bigotry.
Your counter argument to me was weak. Profanity abbreviated is not character. Porn stars, fake universities, etc.. this is character.0 -
Your focus is on the election. . what about after? How many republicans continue to sell their soul...BS44325 said:
No. I didn't say it's ok. I said people were willing to choose "no moral compass" Trump over the "no moral compass" alternative. The election didn't take place in a vacuum.josevolution said:
and a cheater in every sense of the word just ask Melania ....you have set your bar so low you might as well just post lying down , so its ok to have no moral compass , to degrade people of all walks of life/race to be corrupt belive me you don't get to be a realstate billionaire in NY by being honest Joe ....BS44325 said:
I didn't say that is why he lost. You need to read my post again. He lost because as decent as he was he was inauthentic and did not come across as a fighter. The Obama campaign themselves have stated that they buried Romney in negative ads and that the election was over even before the convention. I believe it. Romney was too decent to fight back. Trump is a New York billionaire with less of a track record then Romney but he convinced his voters that he would fight for them. The base did not want character. They wanted a fighter.rgambs said:
Yeah, I have to go with Matt and say, this is baloney.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
Romney got obliterated because he was an exceptional emblem of the cause of the recession trying to get elected to fix the recession. The attacks didn't defeat him, that's just a nice fantasy concocted to explain a defeat that should have been painfully obvious.
To say that he lost the election because he was painted as a bigot doesn't really square with the actual bigot winning the next election. Why didn't the various collections of bigots turn out and win the day for Romney? Oh, right, you don't really believe in racists and bigots, only in false accusations of racism and bigotry.0 -
And more Team Trump Treason officials have been indicted and pleaded guilty in the first year of the Team Trump Treason administration than in all of the 8 years of the previous administration. You must be proud of that brilliant record of accomplishment? And add conspiracy theorist to your bona fides, Professor? "Deep State," laughable. Please tell us when the "unmasking" indictments will be handed down. How many in the FBI have been forced out for wrong doing, Professor?BS44325 said:
Ha...for the record it looks like more people have been forced out of the FBI for wrong doing then the Trump administration to date. Russia, Russia, Russia is ending deep state careers on a daily basis. Only a fighter could produce that result.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don't think they bargained for a fighter, fighting their way into an impeachment corner. Brilliance and all. And without the assist from Russia, Russia, Russia, he wouldn't be fighting at all.BS44325 said:
I didn't say that is why he lost. You need to read my post again. He lost because as decent as he was he was inauthentic and did not come across as a fighter. The Obama campaign themselves have stated that they buried Romney in negative ads and that the election was over even before the convention. I believe it. Romney was too decent to fight back. Trump is a New York billionaire with less of a track record then Romney but he convinced his voters that he would fight for them. The base did not want character. They wanted a fighter.rgambs said:
Yeah, I have to go with Matt and say, this is baloney.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
Romney got obliterated because he was an exceptional emblem of the cause of the recession trying to get elected to fix the recession. The attacks didn't defeat him, that's just a nice fantasy concocted to explain a defeat that should have been painfully obvious.
To say that he lost the election because he was painted as a bigot doesn't really square with the actual bigot winning the next election. Why didn't the various collections of bigots turn out and win the day for Romney? Oh, right, you don't really believe in racists and bigots, only in false accusations of racism and bigotry.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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How many Republicans have called it quits so far this yr way more than any intel agency has lost ! its up above 35 that have announced they are quitting they are gettin as far away as they can from this shit show ....you have been normalizing this baffoon from day 1 you have lowered your morl compass and don't even realize it only a fighter can do that to you .....BS44325 said:
Ha...for the record it looks like more people have been forced out of the FBI for wrong doing then the Trump administration to date. Russia, Russia, Russia is ending deep state careers on a daily basis. Only a fighter could produce that result.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don't think they bargained for a fighter, fighting their way into an impeachment corner. Brilliance and all. And without the assist from Russia, Russia, Russia, he wouldn't be fighting at all.BS44325 said:
I didn't say that is why he lost. You need to read my post again. He lost because as decent as he was he was inauthentic and did not come across as a fighter. The Obama campaign themselves have stated that they buried Romney in negative ads and that the election was over even before the convention. I believe it. Romney was too decent to fight back. Trump is a New York billionaire with less of a track record then Romney but he convinced his voters that he would fight for them. The base did not want character. They wanted a fighter.rgambs said:
Yeah, I have to go with Matt and say, this is baloney.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
Romney got obliterated because he was an exceptional emblem of the cause of the recession trying to get elected to fix the recession. The attacks didn't defeat him, that's just a nice fantasy concocted to explain a defeat that should have been painfully obvious.
To say that he lost the election because he was painted as a bigot doesn't really square with the actual bigot winning the next election. Why didn't the various collections of bigots turn out and win the day for Romney? Oh, right, you don't really believe in racists and bigots, only in false accusations of racism and bigotry.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Obama "tapped" my phones!!!
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“Tapped my wires,” I believe it was. Facts are important. To some anyway.my2hands said:Obama "tapped" my phones!!!
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Like all neocons, he lives in a fantasy world of the past, in a perpetual state of how things used to be and can be again.mrussel1 said:
Your focus is on the election. . what about after? How many republicans continue to sell their soul...BS44325 said:
No. I didn't say it's ok. I said people were willing to choose "no moral compass" Trump over the "no moral compass" alternative. The election didn't take place in a vacuum.josevolution said:
and a cheater in every sense of the word just ask Melania ....you have set your bar so low you might as well just post lying down , so its ok to have no moral compass , to degrade people of all walks of life/race to be corrupt belive me you don't get to be a realstate billionaire in NY by being honest Joe ....BS44325 said:
I didn't say that is why he lost. You need to read my post again. He lost because as decent as he was he was inauthentic and did not come across as a fighter. The Obama campaign themselves have stated that they buried Romney in negative ads and that the election was over even before the convention. I believe it. Romney was too decent to fight back. Trump is a New York billionaire with less of a track record then Romney but he convinced his voters that he would fight for them. The base did not want character. They wanted a fighter.rgambs said:
Yeah, I have to go with Matt and say, this is baloney.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
Romney got obliterated because he was an exceptional emblem of the cause of the recession trying to get elected to fix the recession. The attacks didn't defeat him, that's just a nice fantasy concocted to explain a defeat that should have been painfully obvious.
To say that he lost the election because he was painted as a bigot doesn't really square with the actual bigot winning the next election. Why didn't the various collections of bigots turn out and win the day for Romney? Oh, right, you don't really believe in racists and bigots, only in false accusations of racism and bigotry.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Ahhh...there it is...”the dog whistle”. Thank you for confirming my point.Halifax2TheMax said:
That's not what you said. You said he was demonized as a nazi, racist and misogynist by the Obama campaign. Although he did blow the dog whistle, consciously or not.BS44325 said:
That is what I just said. Please try to keep up.Halifax2TheMax said:
Mitt was perceived as an old, stodgy white guy from the 50's, out of touch with today's generation, needing "a binder full of women" to choose from for his administration because he didn't know any or have experience with working with any. That and his 47% comment showed the world who he really was/is. Completely out of touch with the average Joe, like Joe the Plumber, remember him? and the Daily Caller? Jeesh.BS44325 said:
Here's Time MagazineHughFreakingDillon said:
I won't claim to have been as much of a follower of US politics then as I am now, but I don't recall him being painted as any of those.BS44325 said:
Ahhh....so Romney just fit that mold.HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't recall anyone being "turned into" a racist, misogynist or nazi, unless they have fit the mold themselves quite clearly. I don't recall any federal candidate that has ever been accused, in modern history, of any of those things.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
http://ideas.time.com/2012/07/12/romney-plays-the-race-card/
Here's the Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/02/mitt-romneys-shockingly-racist-acceptance-speech/
Just type Mitt Romney Racist into Google and you will get an endless list of articles
And let's not forget how "Binder full of women" was evidence of a War on Women.
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We’ll all find out what McCabe did wrong soon enough.mrussel1 said:
Tell me what McCabe did wrong again? And who else?BS44325 said:
Ha...for the record it looks like more people have been forced out of the FBI for wrong doing then the Trump administration to date. Russia, Russia, Russia is ending deep state careers on a daily basis. Only a fighter could produce that result.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don't think they bargained for a fighter, fighting their way into an impeachment corner. Brilliance and all. And without the assist from Russia, Russia, Russia, he wouldn't be fighting at all.BS44325 said:
I didn't say that is why he lost. You need to read my post again. He lost because as decent as he was he was inauthentic and did not come across as a fighter. The Obama campaign themselves have stated that they buried Romney in negative ads and that the election was over even before the convention. I believe it. Romney was too decent to fight back. Trump is a New York billionaire with less of a track record then Romney but he convinced his voters that he would fight for them. The base did not want character. They wanted a fighter.rgambs said:
Yeah, I have to go with Matt and say, this is baloney.BS44325 said:
You are correct. This is the main split between conservatives who support Trump and conservatives that are #NeverTrump. Conservatives who are pro-trump watched the dems obliterate an honourable and decent man such as Mitt Romney. They have realized that regardless of character the left will turn any candidate into a racist, misogynistic, nazi. They are tired of that playbook and decided to go with the man of zero character to take on the woman of zero character. NeverTrump conservatives could not make that leap yet are slowly coming around to Trump's conservative results. They are recognizing that no other republican candidate could withstand the onslaught that Trump has taken. For now it is "a fighter" over "character".mrussel1 said:
This is why I hate Trump, regardless of any policy he rolls out. He could legalize marijuana and gay marriage and I would still hate him. Conservatives used to say (during the Clinton admin specifically)... character is destiny. I believe this, always have. They have stopped believing it.Gern Blansten said:tRump just said that if Hillary would have won the stock market would be down 50%....
Romney got obliterated because he was an exceptional emblem of the cause of the recession trying to get elected to fix the recession. The attacks didn't defeat him, that's just a nice fantasy concocted to explain a defeat that should have been painfully obvious.
To say that he lost the election because he was painted as a bigot doesn't really square with the actual bigot winning the next election. Why didn't the various collections of bigots turn out and win the day for Romney? Oh, right, you don't really believe in racists and bigots, only in false accusations of racism and bigotry.
Your counter argument to me was weak. Profanity abbreviated is not character. Porn stars, fake universities, etc.. this is character.
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