America's Gun Violence

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2018
    Smellyman said:
    Can't wait to get me gun out and kill some things!  woo!

    I thirst for death and blood!
    And sausage breakfast burritos, don’t forget the burritos.  Are you against eating meat or just gun ownership?  Do people at butcher shops “thirst for death and blood”?  Help me take people like you seriously, I really want to try...unless it involves having to snip my balls off first.  I don’t care to understand if it means being a nutless crybaby.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera.  Time to restock the bacon!
    Hey what's the story here?

    Seriously. Give me some details.

    30 Bills
    This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about.  Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed.  They are crazy aggressive.  

    I figured as much.

    I have no idea what hunting wild boars might be like.

    I'm assuming the cages are a lure of some sort. Where is this with regards to where you live? Is this your rig? Tell me what you have going on here please!
    The cage is actually a hog trap.  My father in law traps them and there is a local guy that buys them and sells them.  Evidently these things are a delicacy in some places...The round thing is a hay feeder for cattle (to keep it from scattering too bad) and is turned up on its side...This particularly bunch has been messing up the cattle hay.  This is pretty near where we live.

    Thanks for the info! Wild pigs are not something I ever encounter at anytime where I live. Supposedly they're out there (escaped from barns?)... but they are not a nuisance as far as I know. None of my buddies who hunt regularly ever report sighting them.

    I understand they can be fierce and have the potential to really hurt someone. I can see why an assault rifle might be useful against them. With that said, I'm still against the ownership of one despite this (trade offs).

    * For the record... whether they were strong or not... I have offered very detailed arguments for restricting ownership before. I've got 1000s of posts and I don't care to dig them up or reinvent them. I've come to terms with the fact that the idea of restrictions is never going to happen in the US. This fact doesn't make owners shitty people. If you and I sat down and had beer together... I'm pretty sure we'd find things to laugh at and music we'd both simultaneously say, "What a great f**king tune!" My beliefs are mine. I like to express them. I like to defend them.

    ** I'm speaking from British Columbia if you don't remember. Wildlife is truly abundant here: coming back cross country skiing a few weeks back I saw a massive moose (it looked like it was trying to take down a tree). I've seen moose before, but this one was a barrel chested animal. It was huge! About 50 yards from it lurked a coyote watching it in action. A really neat scene.
    We’re cool man!  Sometimes I can get a little sarcastic and really don’t take these topics seriously, especially when idiots think that hunters “thirst for death and blood”, but I have no ill will towards anyone.  I’m sure we would get along just fine.  I have pretty strong opinions when it comes to gun ownership, but most people that have grown up in the ranching communities do.  They have always been a tool on the ranch, whether it be to clear predators from the heard or for hunting food.  They are far from being the most unsafe tool on a farm/ranch and many would say that it’s irresponsible not to have one while doing work on the ranch.  Just part of life around here.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,673
    Wild boar, aka feral pigs, make for some good eatin'
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera.  Time to restock the bacon!
    Hey what's the story here?

    Seriously. Give me some details.

    30 Bills
    This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about.  Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed.  They are crazy aggressive.  

    I figured as much.

    I have no idea what hunting wild boars might be like.

    I'm assuming the cages are a lure of some sort. Where is this with regards to where you live? Is this your rig? Tell me what you have going on here please!
    The cage is actually a hog trap.  My father in law traps them and there is a local guy that buys them and sells them.  Evidently these things are a delicacy in some places...The round thing is a hay feeder for cattle (to keep it from scattering too bad) and is turned up on its side...This particularly bunch has been messing up the cattle hay.  This is pretty near where we live.

    Thanks for the info! Wild pigs are not something I ever encounter at anytime where I live. Supposedly they're out there (escaped from barns?)... but they are not a nuisance as far as I know. None of my buddies who hunt regularly ever report sighting them.

    I understand they can be fierce and have the potential to really hurt someone. I can see why an assault rifle might be useful against them. With that said, I'm still against the ownership of one despite this (trade offs).

    * For the record... whether they were strong or not... I have offered very detailed arguments for restricting ownership before. I've got 1000s of posts and I don't care to dig them up or reinvent them. I've come to terms with the fact that the idea of restrictions is never going to happen in the US. This fact doesn't make owners shitty people. If you and I sat down and had beer together... I'm pretty sure we'd find things to laugh at and music we'd both simultaneously say, "What a great f**king tune!" My beliefs are mine. I like to express them. I like to defend them.

    ** I'm speaking from British Columbia if you don't remember. Wildlife is truly abundant here: coming back cross country skiing a few weeks back I saw a massive moose (it looked like it was trying to take down a tree). I've seen moose before, but this one was a barrel chested animal. It was huge! About 50 yards from it lurked a coyote watching it in action. A really neat scene.
    We’re cool man!  Sometimes I can get a little sarcastic and really don’t take these topics seriously, especially when idiots think that hunters “thirst for death and blood”, but I have no ill will towards anyone.  I’m sure we would get along just fine.  I have pretty strong opinions when it comes to gun ownership, but most people that have grown up in the ranching communities do.  They have always been a tool on the ranch, whether it be to clear predators from the heard or for hunting food.  They are far from being the most unsafe tool on a farm/ranch and many would say that it’s irresponsible not to have one while doing work on the ranch.  Just part of life around here.

    I have always spoken to restrictions of handguns and a ban on assault rifles and large capacity magazines- never guns as a whole.

    Ranchers would be people in the 'approved' category for sidearm ownership (in my model). Just like some people who work in the bush or remote areas. There is a definite need for such a 'tool'.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Bentleyspop said:
    Wild boar, aka feral pigs, make for some good eatin'
    Yes they do!  And they are technically healthier due to the lower fat content.  We had some Chorizo made from the last one we butchered and it was to die for!
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited January 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    Smellyman said:
    Can't wait to get me gun out and kill some things!  woo!

    I thirst for death and blood!
    And sausage breakfast burritos, don’t forget the burritos.  Are you against eating meat or just gun ownership?  Do people at butcher shops “thirst for death and blood”?  Help me take people like you seriously, I really want to try...unless it involves having to snip my balls off first.  I don’t care to understand if it means being a nutless crybaby.
    Yes, I don't eat meat.

    No you don't have to snip your balls.  You are all man! woot!

    Let me take people like you seriously.  Is it the life you take you love or your balls. 

    I mean the 'hobby' you love has only one purpose, to kill.  Do you love killing?

    You are definitely not a nutless crybaby.  Might be the toughest MAN I know on the internet.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2018
    Smellyman said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Smellyman said:
    Can't wait to get me gun out and kill some things!  woo!

    I thirst for death and blood!
    And sausage breakfast burritos, don’t forget the burritos.  Are you against eating meat or just gun ownership?  Do people at butcher shops “thirst for death and blood”?  Help me take people like you seriously, I really want to try...unless it involves having to snip my balls off first.  I don’t care to understand if it means being a nutless crybaby.
    Yes, I don't eat meat.

    No you don't have to snip your balls.  You are all man! woot!

    Let me take people like you seriously.  Is it the life you take you love or your balls. 

    I mean the 'hobby' you love has only one purpose, to kill.  Do you love killing?
    Wow, you don’t get hunting at all.  I do eat meat.  I can fill my freezer for a year by harvesting a couple deer and a hog and save a ton of money doing so.  The killing itself is just a technicality in the process of getting a deer from the land and into my belly.  My favorite part of actual hunting is the nature aspect of it.  You are forced to be quiet and disconnect from everything else in the world and focus on being quiet and making a perfect shot...almost meditative.  I eat what I kill unless it is a coyote or something that I have shot to keep the calves safe.  I can somewhat understand the anti-gun crowd, but anti-hunters get little respect from me.  I couldn’t give two shits if you are against me hunting and there is really no point in debating the topic in my opinion.  
    Also worth mentioning, Venison is on the same level as salmon nutrition wise (not that I don’t like a nice juicy ribeye steak on occasion) and frankly, I cannot stand the taste of tofu.  I would say that my methods of getting my meat is way less inhumane than the processes that puts meat on the store shelves, so there is that too.  
    Now go eat your tofu cheeseburger and get off my ass.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Speaking of “shootin’ shit”, these popped up on the ol’ game camera.  Time to restock the bacon!
    Hey what's the story here?

    Seriously. Give me some details.

    30 Bills
    This is a pretty typical bunch of the wild boars down here in TX that we are always talking about.  Do not want to walk up on a bunch of these unarmed.  They are crazy aggressive.  

    I figured as much.

    I have no idea what hunting wild boars might be like.

    I'm assuming the cages are a lure of some sort. Where is this with regards to where you live? Is this your rig? Tell me what you have going on here please!
    The cage is actually a hog trap.  My father in law traps them and there is a local guy that buys them and sells them.  Evidently these things are a delicacy in some places...The round thing is a hay feeder for cattle (to keep it from scattering too bad) and is turned up on its side...This particularly bunch has been messing up the cattle hay.  This is pretty near where we live.

    Thanks for the info! Wild pigs are not something I ever encounter at anytime where I live. Supposedly they're out there (escaped from barns?)... but they are not a nuisance as far as I know. None of my buddies who hunt regularly ever report sighting them.

    I understand they can be fierce and have the potential to really hurt someone. I can see why an assault rifle might be useful against them. With that said, I'm still against the ownership of one despite this (trade offs).

    * For the record... whether they were strong or not... I have offered very detailed arguments for restricting ownership before. I've got 1000s of posts and I don't care to dig them up or reinvent them. I've come to terms with the fact that the idea of restrictions is never going to happen in the US. This fact doesn't make owners shitty people. If you and I sat down and had beer together... I'm pretty sure we'd find things to laugh at and music we'd both simultaneously say, "What a great f**king tune!" My beliefs are mine. I like to express them. I like to defend them.

    ** I'm speaking from British Columbia if you don't remember. Wildlife is truly abundant here: coming back cross country skiing a few weeks back I saw a massive moose (it looked like it was trying to take down a tree). I've seen moose before, but this one was a barrel chested animal. It was huge! About 50 yards from it lurked a coyote watching it in action. A really neat scene.
    just another reason I'd love to live on the west coast. Best I get in Flatitoba is a fox here and there. 
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:

    To each their own I suppose.  If you are complicit with the heroin/gang culture in those cities, then who am I to argue.
    Yes, Chicago is a terrible city.  Please stay away.  You also clearly have no idea what you're talking about. 
    So Chicago does not have a gang/murder/drug problem?  Probably not in your neighborhood, right?  I’ve visited Chicago and had fun, ate pizza, went to a Cubs game, had my hot dog with way too much shit on it...Don’t think I’ll move there any time soon.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
    “ The city's overall crime rate, especially the violent crime rate, is substantially higher than the US average. Chicago was responsible for nearly half of 2016's increase in homicides in the US, though national crime rates stayed near historic lows.”


    Nice glass house you have there...shame if something happened to it You said you live in TX, right?

    Texas is 32nd in firearm death rates per capita, and the 16th most violent state

    Texas is 6th in incarceration rate
    ...has 3 of the least literate cities in America
    ...is one of the 10 worst states to be a kid
    ...was ranked 43rd in the nation on Education Quality
    ...ranks 41st in Health Care
    ....has the worst nursing homes in the nation
    ....has 3 of the 14 worst VA hospitals in the nation
    ....has a lower per capita and per household income than Illinois

    Chicago has it's fair share of problem.  But Texas has Houston, Dallas, Corpus Christi, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Arlington, Laredo & Austin  - all of which have a higher crime rate than Chicago

    This took me like 5 minutes.  All I had to do was type "Texas ranks worst in...."  and let google auto-fill do the rest.  

    ...Texas sounds like a real shithole...
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:

    To each their own I suppose.  If you are complicit with the heroin/gang culture in those cities, then who am I to argue.
    Yes, Chicago is a terrible city.  Please stay away.  You also clearly have no idea what you're talking about. 
    So Chicago does not have a gang/murder/drug problem?  Probably not in your neighborhood, right?  I’ve visited Chicago and had fun, ate pizza, went to a Cubs game, had my hot dog with way too much shit on it...Don’t think I’ll move there any time soon.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
    “ The city's overall crime rate, especially the violent crime rate, is substantially higher than the US average. Chicago was responsible for nearly half of 2016's increase in homicides in the US, though national crime rates stayed near historic lows.”


    Nice glass house you have there...shame if something happened to it You said you live in TX, right?

    Texas is 32nd in firearm death rates per capita, and the 16th most violent state

    Texas is 6th in incarceration rate
    ...has 3 of the least literate cities in America
    ...is one of the 10 worst states to be a kid
    ...was ranked 43rd in the nation on Education Quality
    ...ranks 41st in Health Care
    ....has the worst nursing homes in the nation
    ....has 3 of the 14 worst VA hospitals in the nation
    ....has a lower per capita and per household income than Illinois

    Chicago has it's fair share of problem.  But Texas has Houston, Dallas, Corpus Christi, San Antonio, Fort Worth, Arlington, Laredo & Austin  - all of which have a higher crime rate than Chicago

    This took me like 5 minutes.  All I had to do was type "Texas ranks worst in...."  and let google auto-fill do the rest.  

    ...Texas sounds like a real shithole...
    Lol, that’s why I don’t live in any of those shithole cities either :)
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,715
    I'm legitimately surprised this one resulted in any punishment (pending appeal, I'd suspect)

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22228326/man-guilty-manslaughter-death-ex-nfl-player

    You'd think some kind of Stand your Ground thing would have gotten him off.  Some racist turd is going to win an election in Louisiana campaigning on this.

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  • josevolution
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    Family of Teen Killed In Kentucky School Shooting Raced to Scene Just In Time To Say Goodbye - People https://apple.news/AJXkF5zl8Q-64jtnm4gJRIg

    I think we should at least post stories of the victims & their families and what they have to deal with ..
    These kinds of shootings are only happening here in this country...we have a gun problem until gun advocates start admitting it we will never fix it ...
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,549
    josevolution said:
    Family of Teen Killed In Kentucky School Shooting Raced to Scene Just In Time To Say Goodbye - People https://apple.news/AJXkF5zl8Q-64jtnm4gJRIg

    I think we should at least post stories of the victims & their families and what they have to deal with ..
    These kinds of shootings are only happening here in this country...we have a gun problem until gun advocates start admitting it we will never fix it ...


    It's stunning the story of the 15 yo Kentucky girl is barely in the news this week. I have a child around that age and my heart goes out to their family. There have been many school shootings in the first month of 2018. America's gun problems are getting exponentially worse each year.

    The problem in America is we have too many that believe the wording in the second amendment stating we can "bear arms" is to be literally applied forever; but those inconvenient words "well regulated militia," is only relevant to the specific militias that existed at that time. In other words, we have no chance for any meaningful gun safety reforms
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Another responsible gun owner, I’m sure.

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another responsible gun owner, I’m sure.

    Man Celebrating 21st Birthday Kills Himself Minutes After Accidentally Killing His Best Friend, Police Say - TIME https://apple.news/AejklQ_b8QCC23Gg7jEYHuA

    Having a firearm in your household exponentially increases the likelihood of someone getting hurt or killed with it.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another responsible gun owner, I’m sure.

    Man Celebrating 21st Birthday Kills Himself Minutes After Accidentally Killing His Best Friend, Police Say - TIME https://apple.news/AejklQ_b8QCC23Gg7jEYHuA
    at's 
    Having a firearm in your household exponentially increases the likelihood of someone getting hurt or killed with it.
    that's like saying if you have a fireplace in your home your chances of having a fire will increase.  It's a pretty obvious statement Del.  

    I have lots of beer in my house, my chances of getting drunk are increased. ;)
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    As I m looking into my yard I thought of: the chance of someone drowning in your backyard increases when you have a pool. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another responsible gun owner, I’m sure.

    Man Celebrating 21st Birthday Kills Himself Minutes After Accidentally Killing His Best Friend, Police Say - TIME https://apple.news/AejklQ_b8QCC23Gg7jEYHuA
    at's 
    Having a firearm in your household exponentially increases the likelihood of someone getting hurt or killed with it.
    that's like saying if you have a fireplace in your home your chances of having a fire will increase.  It's a pretty obvious statement Del.  

    I have lots of beer in my house, my chances of getting drunk are increased. ;)

    Except you probably enjoy getting drunk. Would you enjoy getting shot?
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another responsible gun owner, I’m sure.

    Man Celebrating 21st Birthday Kills Himself Minutes After Accidentally Killing His Best Friend, Police Say - TIME https://apple.news/AejklQ_b8QCC23Gg7jEYHuA
    at's 
    Having a firearm in your household exponentially increases the likelihood of someone getting hurt or killed with it.
    that's like saying if you have a fireplace in your home your chances of having a fire will increase.  It's a pretty obvious statement Del.  

    I have lots of beer in my house, my chances of getting drunk are increased. ;)
    Sometimes the obvious needs to be stated.

    Getting drunk is far better than getting killed... having your teens sneak your booze and getting drunk is far better than having your teens playing with your handgun and killing someone.

    If you want to assume the risk... feel free. The victims we read about assumed the risk thinking nothing would happen to them.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    mcgruff10 said:
    As I m looking into my yard I thought of: the chance of someone drowning in your backyard increases when you have a pool. 

    Well... seeing as you've brought it up... there are many by-laws to pool ownership aimed at public safety. For example, your pool needs to be fenced in so toddlers cannot make the mistake of accessing the pool and falling in. Homeowners are liable when accidents occur in their pools on their property if safety measures were neglected.

    Weird eh? I mean... I know gun owners are 'encouraged' to lock their firearms up, but many don't and as a result... accidents occur. Gun owners are rarely held responsible for their negligence.

    Guns are tools designed specifically to shoot a hole into something (to paraphrase Lynyrd Skynyrd: guns are made for killing... they ain't no good for nothing else). Pools are designed for leisure.

    Pools have tougher restrictions than guns? Weird, man.

    And no post of mine in this thread would be complete with one... good... 'YEE HAW GIT 'ER Dun'.

    lol
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