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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    edited January 2018
    josevolution said:
    tbergs said:
    These two need to rot in a dark, cold and sunless hole for the rest of their miserable lives.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/16/malnourished-and-dirty-police-find-13-children-and-siblings-chained-in-california-us-house

    Yeah I agree I haven’t read the whole story but did they live next to other families or in the middle of nowhere it’s unreal that shit like this happens in the supposedly best country in the world ! You would think stories like this would only happen in shithole countries that our Orange bafoon called out ...
    Yeah, they live in a neighborhood. Some odd comments from the neighbors. Didn't seem like some of them knew they had kids in the house.

    There are definitely plenty of shit holes in this god forsaken place we call the USA (United Shitholes of America).
    It's a hopeless situation...
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    tbergs said:
    These two need to rot in a dark, cold and sunless hole for the rest of their miserable lives.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/16/malnourished-and-dirty-police-find-13-children-and-siblings-chained-in-california-us-house


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,472
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 


    There a whole section of the Food Inc. document on mass processed chickens.  It's pretty disgusting. 
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 


    There is a big movement toward slow food and farm to fork. With a small bit of research you can choose farms and suppliers who rear livestock in a healthy, humane way.
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,293
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 


    Way to spit in the face of the vast majority of people living on the earth! Glad I could be mentioned in the same thread and given the same description as people who murder their children. 
  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    tbergs said:
    These two need to rot in a dark, cold and sunless hole for the rest of their miserable lives.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/16/malnourished-and-dirty-police-find-13-children-and-siblings-chained-in-california-us-house

    The age range of the 13 kids was 2-29. 13 abused human beings.  This story rocked my soul.  How could neighbors not notice something was wrong? Some reported the kids looked pale.  Some said they were out doing yard work at 9 PM.  Are we just not paying enough attention to what's happening right in our backyard? How many other situations are happening like this?
    The answer isn't to invade peoples privacy of course but man this story just screams out to me that we all need to pay a little more attention. The hell these kids went through for years!!!!
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 


    jesus. 
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 



    No.

    The factory farms are disgusting and you've definitely got a reason to be upset about those... but human beings are human beings and we need to eat. I'm not going to apologize for my existence.

    People can eat meat ethically. We typically buy our meat from a local butcher who only sells free range animals. We recently bought beef from a 4H girl. We never buy the multi packs from Costco of frozen chicken breasts or wings or hamburger patties.

    We also try to buy locally grown produce whenever we can (farmer's market).

    That's not to say we don't ever eat meat of the 'unethical variety' (we can't control restaurant and pub selections), but we are aware of the conditions some animals endure and are not cool with it.
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  • KC138045
    KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,716
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 


    Mmmmm chicken nuggets!!!



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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,472
    edited January 2018
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 



    No.

    The factory farms are disgusting and you've definitely got a reason to be upset about those... but human beings are human beings and we need to eat. I'm not going to apologize for my existence.

    People can eat meat ethically. We typically buy our meat from a local butcher who only sells free range animals. We recently bought beef from a 4H girl. We never buy the multi packs from Costco of frozen chicken breasts or wings or hamburger patties.

    We also try to buy locally grown produce whenever we can (farmer's market).

    That's not to say we don't ever eat meat of the 'unethical variety' (we can't control restaurant and pub selections), but we are aware of the conditions some animals endure and are not cool with it.
    You mean you're not going to apologize for your laziness and and not caring enough for other feeling, breathing beings that do not need to be killed. We have reached a point in our existence where we 1) can understand that other creatures feel pain and have a life etc and 2) we don't need to eat meat to survive. It's not harder than that. 

    And talking about doing things "ethically" or "humane" when it's in the end about choosing to kill another being is bs.

    Start to think, and grow a conscience. Your are doing something wrong.

    RiotZact said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 


    Way to spit in the face of the vast majority of people living on the earth! Glad I could be mentioned in the same thread and given the same description as people who murder their children. 
    Don't see what's controversial. On a fundamental level there is no difference.

    But whatever. 

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    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 



    No.

    The factory farms are disgusting and you've definitely got a reason to be upset about those... but human beings are human beings and we need to eat. I'm not going to apologize for my existence.

    People can eat meat ethically. We typically buy our meat from a local butcher who only sells free range animals. We recently bought beef from a 4H girl. We never buy the multi packs from Costco of frozen chicken breasts or wings or hamburger patties.

    We also try to buy locally grown produce whenever we can (farmer's market).

    That's not to say we don't ever eat meat of the 'unethical variety' (we can't control restaurant and pub selections), but we are aware of the conditions some animals endure and are not cool with it.
    You mean you're not going to apologize for your laziness and and not caring enough for other feeling, breathing beings that do not need to be killed. We have reached a point in our existence where we 1) can understand that other creatures feel pain and have a life etc and 2) we don't need to eat meat to survive. It's not harder than that. 

    And talking about doing things "ethically" or "humane" when it's in the end about choosing to kill another being is bs.

    Start to think, and grow a conscience. Your are doing something wrong.

    RiotZact said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 


    Way to spit in the face of the vast majority of people living on the earth! Glad I could be mentioned in the same thread and given the same description as people who murder their children. 
    Don't see what's controversial. On a fundamental level there is no difference.

    But whatever. 

    I LOVE RIOT ACT.



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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    And all the other animals in the cycle of life that eat other animals suck too. Are you religious? Do you believe in Santa? And God? If you do... I could understand your mentality a bit- you think we are above the other species inhabiting this earth.

    If not... then don't just save your disdain for humans: fish suck. Birds suck (what did insects ever do to them?). Lions and hyenas suck. Cats suck. And all the other flesh eating animals too. We all suck.

    I was born in a time where localized economies and subsistence farming is an impossibility. It's not laziness. It's reality. Hop off your high horse (and get some iron in your diet).
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    And all the other animals in the cycle of life that eat other animals suck too. Are you religious? Do you believe in Santa? And God? If you do... I could understand your mentality a bit- you think we are above the other species inhabiting this earth.

    If not... then don't just save your disdain for humans: fish suck. Birds suck (what did insects ever do to them?). Lions and hyenas suck. Cats suck. And all the other flesh eating animals too. We all suck.

    I was born in a time where localized economies and subsistence farming is an impossibility. It's not laziness. It's reality. Hop off your high horse (and get some iron in your diet).
    The difference would be that those animals are carnivores. We are not, but we choose to be because we like the taste. You are right in that our current world doesn't make local farming and sustainability a focus so we have foregone ethical and decent conditions for how a lot of our food is raised and grown (not just meat). It completely blows, but people love low prices even though it usually means the above type of situations for the chick conveyor o' fun.

    As for your comment about iron, just eat some beans and dark greens. Much better source of iron than meat. My lifestyle and economic situation allow me to choose not to eat meat or dairy products, but I also understand not everyone can afford to spend money on good clean food that was raised organically at a local level.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited January 2018
    tbergs said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    And all the other animals in the cycle of life that eat other animals suck too. Are you religious? Do you believe in Santa? And God? If you do... I could understand your mentality a bit- you think we are above the other species inhabiting this earth.

    If not... then don't just save your disdain for humans: fish suck. Birds suck (what did insects ever do to them?). Lions and hyenas suck. Cats suck. And all the other flesh eating animals too. We all suck.

    I was born in a time where localized economies and subsistence farming is an impossibility. It's not laziness. It's reality. Hop off your high horse (and get some iron in your diet).
    The difference would be that those animals are carnivores. We are not, but we choose to be because we like the taste. You are right in that our current world doesn't make local farming and sustainability a focus so we have foregone ethical and decent conditions for how a lot of our food is raised and grown (not just meat). It completely blows, but people love low prices even though it usually means the above type of situations for the chick conveyor o' fun.

    As for your comment about iron, just eat some beans and dark greens. Much better source of iron than meat. My lifestyle and economic situation allow me to choose not to eat meat or dairy products, but I also understand not everyone can afford to spend money on good clean food that was raised organically at a local level.
    We're not carnivores?

    I'm not so sure about that. You might like to think we aren't, but that is definitely debatable.

    * My iron comment was in jest.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,472
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    And all the other animals in the cycle of life that eat other animals suck too. Are you religious? Do you believe in Santa? And God? If you do... I could understand your mentality a bit- you think we are above the other species inhabiting this earth.

    If not... then don't just save your disdain for humans: fish suck. Birds suck (what did insects ever do to them?). Lions and hyenas suck. Cats suck. And all the other flesh eating animals too. We all suck.

    I was born in a time where localized economies and subsistence farming is an impossibility. It's not laziness. It's reality. Hop off your high horse (and get some iron in your diet).
    Is this a joke?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,293
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    And all the other animals in the cycle of life that eat other animals suck too. Are you religious? Do you believe in Santa? And God? If you do... I could understand your mentality a bit- you think we are above the other species inhabiting this earth.

    If not... then don't just save your disdain for humans: fish suck. Birds suck (what did insects ever do to them?). Lions and hyenas suck. Cats suck. And all the other flesh eating animals too. We all suck.

    I was born in a time where localized economies and subsistence farming is an impossibility. It's not laziness. It's reality. Hop off your high horse (and get some iron in your diet).
    Is this a joke?
    I think the “get some iron in your diet” part was.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    RiotZact said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    And all the other animals in the cycle of life that eat other animals suck too. Are you religious? Do you believe in Santa? And God? If you do... I could understand your mentality a bit- you think we are above the other species inhabiting this earth.

    If not... then don't just save your disdain for humans: fish suck. Birds suck (what did insects ever do to them?). Lions and hyenas suck. Cats suck. And all the other flesh eating animals too. We all suck.

    I was born in a time where localized economies and subsistence farming is an impossibility. It's not laziness. It's reality. Hop off your high horse (and get some iron in your diet).
    Is this a joke?
    I think the “get some iron in your diet” part was.
    Correct.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 



    No.

    The factory farms are disgusting and you've definitely got a reason to be upset about those... but human beings are human beings and we need to eat. I'm not going to apologize for my existence.

    People can eat meat ethically. We typically buy our meat from a local butcher who only sells free range animals. We recently bought beef from a 4H girl. We never buy the multi packs from Costco of frozen chicken breasts or wings or hamburger patties.

    We also try to buy locally grown produce whenever we can (farmer's market).

    That's not to say we don't ever eat meat of the 'unethical variety' (we can't control restaurant and pub selections), but we are aware of the conditions some animals endure and are not cool with it.
    You mean you're not going to apologize for your laziness and and not caring enough for other feeling, breathing beings that do not need to be killed. We have reached a point in our existence where we 1) can understand that other creatures feel pain and have a life etc and 2) we don't need to eat meat to survive. It's not harder than that. 

    And talking about doing things "ethically" or "humane" when it's in the end about choosing to kill another being is bs.

    Start to think, and grow a conscience. Your are doing something wrong.

    RiotZact said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Anyone eating meat in 2018 is disgusting and morally/emphatically ignorant. 


    Way to spit in the face of the vast majority of people living on the earth! Glad I could be mentioned in the same thread and given the same description as people who murder their children. 
    Don't see what's controversial. On a fundamental level there is no difference.

    But whatever. 

    I LOVE RIOT ACT.


    yay, eating a burger and torturing 13 children are the same now.

    good god. 
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