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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    edited December 2017
    There are rednecks and then there are rednecks.  Ed Abbey knew the difference.

    If you have the time, fix a drink or a smoke or whatever, sit back and give this a go.  Worth a listen if you have the time:

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Nice virtue signal.  
    No one finds your alt-right vocabulary impressive, it just makes you look like an ass. 
    is there really an alt right anymore? to me it is just the right, as they have accepted into their movement the former alt right.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    unsung said:
    Nice virtue signal.  
    Yawn.
  • unsung said:
    Nice virtue signal.  
    Better dog whistle.
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  • my2hands
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    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Great news!
    Yup, like Randy Paul’s vote to add $1.5 trillion to the deficit. Principles.
    It would be easier to take that comment seriously had you said one word the last eight years.  Maybe you can link me to that though.  Probably not.
    My party is not the one prattling on about the deficit and fiscal responsibility. My party is not enlarging the deficit to make a very small percentage of the populous even more filthy rich. My party didn’t vote against increasing the deficit to bail out the auto and banking industries to save hundreds of thousands of jobs and an economy. My party didn’t prattle on about how we can’t afford to provide a minimum level of health insurance for its citizens without. My party didn’t vote against deficit spending to stimulate the economy when unemployment, brought on by your party, reached 10% and was as high as 50-60%. Your party still believes in trickle down economics when the unemployment is at 4.1%. Let me know when unemployment is at 2%, would you? Your hypocrisy is astounding but not surprising, seeing how you have such pure ideology. What a joke.
    Unsung... owned again

    Do we need to talk about the deficit under Reagan & W???? or maybe discuss the surplus achieved under Clinton only to be blown up by the W administration?

    But you're only worried about the deficit while a black guy was president, obviously
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Pre Obama the debt was at $9T.  That is Presidents 1-43 (iirc) combined.

    When Obama left office it was $20T.



    You really don't want to debate this though with me unless you are ready to accept that spending cuts need to happen.  Otherwise it is a non-starter.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    Pre Obama the debt was at $9T.  That is Presidents 1-43 (iirc) combined.

    When Obama left office it was $20T.



    You really don't want to debate this though with me unless you are ready to accept that spending cuts need to happen.  Otherwise it is a non-starter.


    You really don't want to debate unless you are ready to accept that tax increases need to happen.  




    Obama's debt contribution was $983 billion.

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Case DISMISSED!  ALL charges dropped!

    Prosecution withheld evidence favorable to the defense, admitted the Bundy's were never a threat.  Judge Navarro said that prosecution performed "flagrant prosecutorial misconduct."


  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,126
    unsung said:
    Pre Obama the debt was at $9T.  That is Presidents 1-43 (iirc) combined.

    When Obama left office it was $20T.



    You really don't want to debate this though with me unless you are ready to accept that spending cuts need to happen.  Otherwise it is a non-starter.
    But what did Obama do to get it to 20T?  Come on man...

    Fault Obama for not raising taxes to help offset it maybe.  The spending came from your GOP
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  • unsung
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    Obama got us into Libya and Syria and we are still in Afghanistan to this day.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • Gtilley8
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    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Great news!
    Yup, like Randy Paul’s vote to add $1.5 trillion to the deficit. Principles.
    It would be easier to take that comment seriously had you said one word the last eight years.  Maybe you can link me to that though.  Probably not.
    My party is not the one prattling on about the deficit and fiscal responsibility. My party is not enlarging the deficit to make a very small percentage of the populous even more filthy rich. My party didn’t vote against increasing the deficit to bail out the auto and banking industries to save hundreds of thousands of jobs and an economy. My party didn’t prattle on about how we can’t afford to provide a minimum level of health insurance for its citizens without. My party didn’t vote against deficit spending to stimulate the economy when unemployment, brought on by your party, reached 10% and was as high as 50-60%. Your party still believes in trickle down economics when the unemployment is at 4.1%. Let me know when unemployment is at 2%, would you? Your hypocrisy is astounding but not surprising, seeing how you have such pure ideology. What a joke.
    also, our party is not propping up a fucking sociopath for the sake of "wins".

    our party is not talking down entire classes of people and spiking the football when we pass a vote that 25% of americans favor.

    fuck the gop. all of them.
    The thread title says it all.  Lol.  Cliven Bundy.  Dude is a hero to mental neophytes.  

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Bump, white looting continues to this day.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    Bump, white looting continues to this day.
    Childish response to a certain thread. Jeez dude. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    nicknyr15 said:
    Bump, white looting continues to this day.
    Childish response to a certain thread. Jeez dude. 
    What would you call or how would you describe what the Bundy’s are still doing? Sheesh.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    nicknyr15 said:
    Bump, white looting continues to this day.
    Childish response to a certain thread. Jeez dude. 
    What would you call or how would you describe what the Bundy’s are still doing? Sheesh.
    Bumping a thread with no activity for 2 years and saying what you said is childish. Everything is about race with you. You’re throwing a hissy fit in response to a thread.  Cmon 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Bump, white looting continues to this day.
    Childish response to a certain thread. Jeez dude. 
    What would you call or how would you describe what the Bundy’s are still doing? Sheesh.
    Bumping a thread with no activity for 2 years and saying what you said is childish. Everything is about race with you. You’re throwing a hissy fit in response to a thread.  Cmon 
    I bumped the thread after I was chastised by the OP of the Riots/madness thread for posting the looting of federal land and tax payers that continues to this day by a white family, 6 years running at least.

    Believe it or not, race plays a huge roll in where we are today, particularly when the riot in Ferguson in 2014 because of Michael Brown’s death, the riot in Baltimore in 2015 because of Freddie Gray’s death and all the police killings of Blacks, in between and since, right up to George Floyd’s death. And nothings changed except the number and duration of the protests/riots. So yea, race still matters, every fucking day.

    A hissy fit? You mean like complaining? C’mon maaaaaaaan, as Sleepy Woke Joe would say.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2020
    The Bundy crew should be in jail, but evidently the federal prosecutors screwed things up:
    https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/appeals-court-upholds-dismissal-of-nv-indictment-against-cliven-bundy-his-two-sons-and-ryan-payne.html
    My family has paid to graze cattle on federal land for years, so yes, it does piss me off that they feel they can do it for free.

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,381
    PJPOWER said:
    The Bundy crew should be in jail, but evidently the federal prosecutors screwed things up:
    https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/appeals-court-upholds-dismissal-of-nv-indictment-against-cliven-bundy-his-two-sons-and-ryan-payne.html
    My family has paid to graze cattle on federal land for years, so yes, it does piss me off that they feel they can do it for free.

    Its their right as christian americans to not pay the taxes or the fess that everyone else has to pay.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2020
    PJPOWER said:
    The Bundy crew should be in jail, but evidently the federal prosecutors screwed things up:
    https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/appeals-court-upholds-dismissal-of-nv-indictment-against-cliven-bundy-his-two-sons-and-ryan-payne.html
    My family has paid to graze cattle on federal land for years, so yes, it does piss me off that they feel they can do it for free.

    Its their right as christian americans to not pay the taxes or the fess that everyone else has to pay.
    Hell, I thought that was becoming the American way?  There are plenty of freeloaders not paying taxes or fees these days.