Net Neutrality is Dead.

Abe Froman said:

https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/941467519222771713

This assclown can’t even spell. And doesn’t know his dad appointed Pai (FCC chairman). 

He's definitely the most unhinged among his siblings.  I think there's an OK chance that he'll be President some day.

Question for the more tech-able here:  I got this message a little while ago that popped up on my laptop that basically mentioned (if I recall correctly),  not allowing redirect and needing to choose one of two [which for me may as well been written in Latvian] and then it jammed my computer.  I had to force a shut down and restart.  So far, no strange message popping up.  So I don't know if this is a virus, an anomaly created by who-knows-what,  or some net neutrality issue. 

(Sorry for the weak technical descriptions. Man, I suck at electronics!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vuuZt7wak

BS44325 said:

my2hands said:

BS44325 said:

Net neutrality is not a victory. It is a loss for freedom on the internet once the FCC slowly starts applying decency standards. Over time speech will be curtailed, bloggers will require licensure, forums such as these will need permission from a goverment agency. Positivity and complacency has lead to this outcome.

None of that happened since this post in early 2015

Investment in new technologies dropped big time. That’s a fact. Net Neutrality curtails investments.

Where in your post he quoted did you mention investments? Trouble reading or just the usual bait and switch when you lost a point. More likely, more BS.

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

my2hands said:

BS44325 said:

Net neutrality is not a victory. It is a loss for freedom on the internet once the FCC slowly starts applying decency standards. Over time speech will be curtailed, bloggers will require licensure, forums such as these will need permission from a goverment agency. Positivity and complacency has lead to this outcome.

None of that happened since this post in early 2015

Investment in new technologies dropped big time. That’s a fact. Net Neutrality curtails investments.

Where in your post he quoted did you mention investments? Trouble reading or just the usual bait and switch when you lost a point. More likely, more BS.

No point lost. Trump via Ajit Pai prevented the nightmare scenerio I warned about in February 2015. Obama FCC dream of regulating speech died before it could be fully realized. Twitter, Google (YouTube), Facebook etc, who are all supporters of Net Neutrality, have made and are making attempts to regulate speech and suppress competition but I am less concerned now.

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

my2hands said:

BS44325 said:

Net neutrality is not a victory. It is a loss for freedom on the internet once the FCC slowly starts applying decency standards. Over time speech will be curtailed, bloggers will require licensure, forums such as these will need permission from a goverment agency. Positivity and complacency has lead to this outcome.

None of that happened since this post in early 2015

Investment in new technologies dropped big time. That’s a fact. Net Neutrality curtails investments.

Where in your post he quoted did you mention investments? Trouble reading or just the usual bait and switch when you lost a point. More likely, more BS.

No point lost. Trump via Ajit Pai prevented the nightmare scenerio I warned about in February 2015. Obama FCC dream of regulating speech died before it could be fully realized. Twitter, Google (YouTube), Facebook etc, who are all supporters of Net Neutrality, have made and are making attempts to regulate speech and suppress competition but I am less concerned now.

Spin, spin, spin the BS. He never mentioned investment and do you have a link to your fact regarding investments?

So much for facts:

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/fcc-net-neutrality-broadband-investment-1202430281/

BS44325 said:

my2hands said:

BS44325 said:

my2hands said:

BS44325 said:

Hopefully this will enlighten all of you

https://youtu.be/6wHoeCNhnNc

We are better off without net neutrality.

What rightwing blog did you pull this off of? Just by reading the comments I can tell this is being shared throughout the conservative community... first two comments I read called the host snowflake and hindufaggot...

MSNBC is a right wing blog?

http://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/former-fcc-commissioner-defends-net-neutrality-repeal-1116899907726

It is probably being shared because it encapsulates the argument perfectly. 

There is a 0% chance you went to MSNBC and just found that video... the YT link you provided is uploaded by an individual, not MSNBC... so again, I'm sure you found it in the conservative echo chamber out there, which is obvious by the comments section... which is fine my friend, I just wish people would all step out of their safe little echo chambers and challenge themselves to new information and viewpoints... this includes myself... we are being programmed

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42322746

Ha. Right. You probably think I have a Kenyan birth certificate as well. Did you know that if you see something on MSNBC and then want to link the video only you can actually search “Ali Veshi Net Neutrality” in youtube and get a link to an uploaded video. Our ability to do that by the way existed prior to Net Neutrality.

Did you know that sometimes when you post on the internet that someone will read it and believe it because they saw it on the internet?
 
http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/fcc-net-neutrality-broadband-investment-1202430281/

my2hands said:

And your awareness of this video came from watching MSNBC, or the conservative echo chamber?

We all know the answer, but it doesn't really matter

Ha. Hilarious. Well you can think what you want. The good news is that without Net Neutrality we will always have both MSNBC and a conservative echo chamber. 

You see what it comes down to is whether you side with the builders of the internet or the users of the internet. The builders, under big telecom, have created a platform that can be used by anyone. They don’t really have a horse in the race as long as the user pays. This might sound offensive to you but the good news is competition in the market allows for you to build your own internet provider if you do. If AT&T or Verizon are “throttling” people out another provider could come along and create a better service.

The users such as Google, Amazon, Facebook, Netflix etc on the otherhand desperately want a monopoly on access to the builder’s product. They want to stamp out all competitors to keep your eyeballs and your minds within their ecosystem. They search and collect every detail about you and want to manipulate you to think, buy and vote.

My mother like a lot of people on here tends to side with the users. She uses facebook, google, netflix everyday so that interaction is understandable to her. She doesn’t however have any clue with respect to the technology required to build the internet which hosts her favourite sites. When her service has the most basic interruption she calls her provider to yell at them even when all she had to do was reset her modem. She loves to complain about her bill even though she is getting data at blazing speeds. She is under the complete misconception that it is the provider who is her enemy while Facebook/Google/Netflix is her friend. 

This way of thinking couldn’t be more wrong. Big Providers are giving you a road to freedom. Big Users are trying to trap you in dead ends. In time they want fewer roads. They want you to have less freedom.