2017 Pearl Jam Complete Vinyl Box Set

Bigrfish said:

I feel for the folks who bought this box set...Amazon.ca has VS for $19.26 - No Code for $23.69 - Ten was $22.30 if pre ordered.
S/T, Riot Act and Binaural are $31 apiece. Cdn dolla... $158.25Cdn so far...I paid $24.99 for Vitology - $26.10 for Yield - $23.00 for Backspacer and $30.00 for LB. That equals(including shipping and tax) - $262.34Cdn or $205.78 US...for the same stuff minus the fancy letter and box. I would be a bit annoyed as well.
I feel bad now.
Cheers

Bigrfish said:

I feel for the folks who bought this box set...Amazon.ca has VS for $19.26 - No Code for $23.69 - Ten was $22.30 if pre ordered.
S/T, Riot Act and Binaural are $31 apiece. Cdn dolla... $158.25Cdn so far...I paid $24.99 for Vitology - $26.10 for Yield - $23.00 for Backspacer and $30.00 for LB. That equals(including shipping and tax) - $262.34Cdn or $205.78 US...for the same stuff minus the fancy letter and box. I would be a bit annoyed as well.
I feel bad now.
Cheers

I find this wierd. I've read one guy who felt disappointed. 

Yet you feel the need to feel annoyed and bad for the people who are on the whole delighted and pretty pleased with the product they bought ...

thats got to be a waste of your energy 

cjzoly said:

Wholly shit...All this hate and discontent regarding this box, yet no one has offered theirs up to me...C'mon with it...You hate it...Let me buy it...

I tagged you and @MedozK

We will see if it works out.

pdalowsky said:

Bigrfish said:

I feel for the folks who bought this box set...Amazon.ca has VS for $19.26 - No Code for $23.69 - Ten was $22.30 if pre ordered.
S/T, Riot Act and Binaural are $31 apiece. Cdn dolla... $158.25Cdn so far...I paid $24.99 for Vitology - $26.10 for Yield - $23.00 for Backspacer and $30.00 for LB. That equals(including shipping and tax) - $262.34Cdn or $205.78 US...for the same stuff minus the fancy letter and box. I would be a bit annoyed as well.
I feel bad now.
Cheers

Bigrfish said:

I feel for the folks who bought this box set...Amazon.ca has VS for $19.26 - No Code for $23.69 - Ten was $22.30 if pre ordered.
S/T, Riot Act and Binaural are $31 apiece. Cdn dolla... $158.25Cdn so far...I paid $24.99 for Vitology - $26.10 for Yield - $23.00 for Backspacer and $30.00 for LB. That equals(including shipping and tax) - $262.34Cdn or $205.78 US...for the same stuff minus the fancy letter and box. I would be a bit annoyed as well.
I feel bad now.
Cheers

I find this wierd. I've read one guy who felt disappointed. 

Yet you feel the need to feel annoyed and bad for the people who are on the whole delighted and pretty pleased with the product they bought ...

thats got to be a waste of your energy 

You haven't read enough and, or, you may be missing my point, which has been made by others as well. All of these vinyl re issues are or will be available at a much lower cost than this box set. I am not trying to take anything away from the folks who purchased the box set. I was only pointing out that you could have all of the same music on vinyl as well for less.

2-feign-reluctance said:

I paid around a good chunk of change to complete my collection in 2012. I would have gladly waited to have a crack at this much less expensive all in one offer.

Haha, I suppose that is a good point. I paid more than what the boxset cost for only two Pearl Jam album, and they really were used. (not that I regret it - totally worth not waiting all that time, especially since the reissues don't sound nearly as good, from what I've heard myself and read from others).

Well... I didn't buy a boxset because I knew it seemed like a rip off when they went up for sale, plus I already had all the albums. I figured everyone who purchased one knew what they were (over)paying for. But I must admit, after reading everyone's arguments in this discussion, I think I agree that the way 10C chose to do this boxset is well below the general expectations of most fans who collect vinyl. I think having some of the albums sealed and some not is quite the hack job, and I also think that the boxsets should have been sealed, you know, like every other brand new consumer item in the world. I don't think details like that should have to actually be stated in the item description for people to expect them. To me they seem like obvious givens. So I don't blame people for being a bit annoyed by the lack of care on these, especially considering the price compared to if someone put it together themselves.
I also think it's plain old strange to sell a boxset that is put together the way this one was. I gather 10C members expect more when it comes to such an item. I mean really, the entire catalogue boxset for Pearl Jam should be the crown jewel of everyone's collection. It should be special. It should be produced as a boxset, to separate it from the individual reissues. If people are going to be disappointed by something, I figure it should really be that Pearl Jam didn't care enough to make it a really awesome, special thing for fans to cherish - a thing to truly showcase and celebrate the band's amazing catalogue with a unique and significant item, and numbered properly (i.e. stamped), and filled with records that are of the best audio quality. I think people are right to expect such an item to be released with a LOT more love .... and made available to a lot more people..... Maybe someday they will do something like that. I hope so. Of course, that would further highlight what this current boxset really is in relation to the usual standards set by other bands: shoddy. Sorry 10C and everyone who is happy about it. It's just the truth. I am genuinely happy for anyone who is happy about their boxset. But I see no reason for those who aren't to not express themselves. I am puzzled by those who seem pissed off that people are expressing their discontent or their dashed hopes. As paying customers, they should be free to do that without being insulted. Paul, just as people expressing their discontent is a head scratcher for you, your being confounded by that is a head scratcher for me.

I could be totally wrong but maybe this is the way this set had to be made. Aren't lightning bolt and backspacer made by the universal music group and all the rest are epic or an affiliate of Sony. Maybe Sony did the box and the first 8 albums and that is why the box wasn't sealed because they had to add the last two albums. Or I'm way off base. 

PJ_Soul said:

I also think it's plain old strange to sell a boxset that is put together the way this one was. I gather 10C members expect more when it comes to such an item. I mean really, the entire catalogue boxset for Pearl Jam should be the crown jewel of everyone's collection. It should be special. It should be produced as a boxset, to separate it from the individual reissues. If people are going to be disappointed by something, I figure it should really be that Pearl Jam didn't care enough to make it a really awesome, special thing for fans to cherish - a thing to truly showcase and celebrate the band's amazing catalogue with a unique and significant item, and numbered properly (i.e. stamped). I think people are right to expect such an item to be released with a LOT more love .... and made available to a lot more people..... Maybe someday they will do something like that. I hope so. Of course, that would further highlight what this current boxset really is in relation to the usual standards set by other bands: shoddy. Sorry 10C and everyone who is happy about it. It's just the truth. I am genuinely happy for anyone who is happy about their boxset. But I see no reason for those who aren't to not express themselves. I am puzzled by those who seem pissed off that people are expressing their discontent or their dashed hopes. As paying customers, they should be free to do that without being insulted. Paul, just as people expressing their discontent is a head scratcher for you, your being confounded by that is a head scratcher for me.

Exactly my thoughts that I have expressed since the beginning.

pdalowsky said:

PJ_Soul said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

I paid around a good chunk of change to complete my collection in 2012. I would have gladly waited to have a crack at this much less expensive all in one offer.

Haha, I suppose that is a good point. I paid more than what the boxset cost for only two Pearl Jam album, and they really were used. (not that I regret it - totally worth not waiting all that time, especially since the reissues don't sound nearly as good, from what I've heard myself and read from others).

Well... I didn't buy a boxset because I knew it seemed like a rip off when they went up for sale, plus I already had all the albums. I figured everyone who purchased one knew what they were (over)paying for. But I must admit, after reading everyone's arguments in this discussion, I think I agree that the way 10C chose to do this boxset is well below the general expectations of most fans who collect vinyl. I think having some of the albums sealed and some not is quite the hack job, and I also think that the boxsets should have been sealed, you know, like every other brand new consumer item in the world. I don't think details like that should have to actually be stated in the item description for people to expect them. To me they seem like obvious givens. So I don't blame people for being a bit annoyed by the lack of care on these, especially considering the price compared to if someone put it together themselves.
I also think it's plain old strange to sell a boxset that is put together the way this one was. I gather 10C members expect more when it comes to such an item. I mean really, the entire catalogue boxset for Pearl Jam should be the crown jewel of everyone's collection. It should be special. It should be produced as a boxset, to separate it from the individual reissues. If people are going to be disappointed by something, I figure it should really be that Pearl Jam didn't care enough to make it a really awesome, special thing for fans to cherish - a thing to truly showcase and celebrate the band's amazing catalogue with a unique and significant item, and numbered properly (i.e. stamped). I think people are right to expect such an item to be released with a LOT more love .... and made available to a lot more people..... Maybe someday they will do something like that. I hope so. Of course, that would further highlight what this current boxset really is in relation to the usual standards set by other bands: shoddy. Sorry 10C and everyone who is happy about it. It's just the truth. I am genuinely happy for anyone who is happy about their boxset. But I see no reason for those who aren't to not express themselves. I am puzzled by those who seem pissed off that people are expressing their discontent or their dashed hopes. As paying customers, they should be free to do that without being insulted. Paul, just as people expressing their discontent is a head scratcher for you, your being confounded by that is a head scratcher for me.

I think the point you are missing is that 99% of the negativity here is from people who didn't buy the boxset. Would you fit in here? 

To be really clear as to the head scratcher I was referencing before was:-

 that people who didn't buy this boxset care so much and are so vocal on it. As opposed to those who did. It's just bizarre. 

'I didn't buy it and I want to tell everyone why I'm so glad I didn't and why I feel for those who did'

sorry I just don't get that 

the one person who expressed deep disappointment was offered an immediate refund... can they be any fairer than that? 

I repeat. The tenclub sold and delivered EXACTLY what was offered, regardless of any romantic bullshit about what such a product should have been and what it should have represented. Everyone knew what was being bought, some wanted in, some didn't. But to now introduce the fact that the boxes should have been specially stamped ..., sorry that is plain nonsense 

PJ_Soul said:

pdalowsky said:

PJ_Soul said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

I paid around a good chunk of change to complete my collection in 2012. I would have gladly waited to have a crack at this much less expensive all in one offer.

Haha, I suppose that is a good point. I paid more than what the boxset cost for only two Pearl Jam album, and they really were used. (not that I regret it - totally worth not waiting all that time, especially since the reissues don't sound nearly as good, from what I've heard myself and read from others).

Well... I didn't buy a boxset because I knew it seemed like a rip off when they went up for sale, plus I already had all the albums. I figured everyone who purchased one knew what they were (over)paying for. But I must admit, after reading everyone's arguments in this discussion, I think I agree that the way 10C chose to do this boxset is well below the general expectations of most fans who collect vinyl. I think having some of the albums sealed and some not is quite the hack job, and I also think that the boxsets should have been sealed, you know, like every other brand new consumer item in the world. I don't think details like that should have to actually be stated in the item description for people to expect them. To me they seem like obvious givens. So I don't blame people for being a bit annoyed by the lack of care on these, especially considering the price compared to if someone put it together themselves.
I also think it's plain old strange to sell a boxset that is put together the way this one was. I gather 10C members expect more when it comes to such an item. I mean really, the entire catalogue boxset for Pearl Jam should be the crown jewel of everyone's collection. It should be special. It should be produced as a boxset, to separate it from the individual reissues. If people are going to be disappointed by something, I figure it should really be that Pearl Jam didn't care enough to make it a really awesome, special thing for fans to cherish - a thing to truly showcase and celebrate the band's amazing catalogue with a unique and significant item, and numbered properly (i.e. stamped). I think people are right to expect such an item to be released with a LOT more love .... and made available to a lot more people..... Maybe someday they will do something like that. I hope so. Of course, that would further highlight what this current boxset really is in relation to the usual standards set by other bands: shoddy. Sorry 10C and everyone who is happy about it. It's just the truth. I am genuinely happy for anyone who is happy about their boxset. But I see no reason for those who aren't to not express themselves. I am puzzled by those who seem pissed off that people are expressing their discontent or their dashed hopes. As paying customers, they should be free to do that without being insulted. Paul, just as people expressing their discontent is a head scratcher for you, your being confounded by that is a head scratcher for me.

I think the point you are missing is that 99% of the negativity here is from people who didn't buy the boxset. Would you fit in here? 

No, I didn't miss that point. It's why I said right at the beginning of my post that I didn't buy it and why I didn't. I'm not sure why that matters to you one way or the other. For me, whether I bought it or not, it's more about what it says about the mentality of the band/club right now. When they aren't putting their best efforts out there, aren't putting some love into their first ever catalogue boxset, which I think should be a big deal, it's just kind of a bummer to me as a fan, and as someone who would have bought something that was done right. The fact that they restricted it to so few members is also a bit of a burn. That along with the fact that their reissues aren't great sound-wise... Well, it's just kind of a let down when you feel like your favorite band doesn't care that much, especially when you know a ton of other comparable bands are doing it so well. Doing it right. I think it's okay for people to talk about that and still "keep coming back" because they still love the music and the shows and the fans and everything. Sorry you don't like it when people say this stuff, but I'm not sure why you are pissy about others just expressing how they feel about it. These are consumer items, so I figure the consumers and potential consumers have every right to criticize things they think aren't being done well.

Jesus now it's the quality of the repress? 

Look people got what they paid for. Not what many dreamed about. That's my point. Im not pissy, the constant negativity is frustrating and a little light is often a good thing. 

We'll not agree. Seems we rarely do. Such is life.

leyd agree I was happy I ordered and you clearly made a wise personal choice not to because you didn't like what was offered and photographed. but let's not try to make it any more romantic than it really is 

pdalowsky said:

PJ_Soul said:

pdalowsky said:

PJ_Soul said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

I paid around a good chunk of change to complete my collection in 2012. I would have gladly waited to have a crack at this much less expensive all in one offer.

Haha, I suppose that is a good point. I paid more than what the boxset cost for only two Pearl Jam album, and they really were used. (not that I regret it - totally worth not waiting all that time, especially since the reissues don't sound nearly as good, from what I've heard myself and read from others).

Well... I didn't buy a boxset because I knew it seemed like a rip off when they went up for sale, plus I already had all the albums. I figured everyone who purchased one knew what they were (over)paying for. But I must admit, after reading everyone's arguments in this discussion, I think I agree that the way 10C chose to do this boxset is well below the general expectations of most fans who collect vinyl. I think having some of the albums sealed and some not is quite the hack job, and I also think that the boxsets should have been sealed, you know, like every other brand new consumer item in the world. I don't think details like that should have to actually be stated in the item description for people to expect them. To me they seem like obvious givens. So I don't blame people for being a bit annoyed by the lack of care on these, especially considering the price compared to if someone put it together themselves.
I also think it's plain old strange to sell a boxset that is put together the way this one was. I gather 10C members expect more when it comes to such an item. I mean really, the entire catalogue boxset for Pearl Jam should be the crown jewel of everyone's collection. It should be special. It should be produced as a boxset, to separate it from the individual reissues. If people are going to be disappointed by something, I figure it should really be that Pearl Jam didn't care enough to make it a really awesome, special thing for fans to cherish - a thing to truly showcase and celebrate the band's amazing catalogue with a unique and significant item, and numbered properly (i.e. stamped). I think people are right to expect such an item to be released with a LOT more love .... and made available to a lot more people..... Maybe someday they will do something like that. I hope so. Of course, that would further highlight what this current boxset really is in relation to the usual standards set by other bands: shoddy. Sorry 10C and everyone who is happy about it. It's just the truth. I am genuinely happy for anyone who is happy about their boxset. But I see no reason for those who aren't to not express themselves. I am puzzled by those who seem pissed off that people are expressing their discontent or their dashed hopes. As paying customers, they should be free to do that without being insulted. Paul, just as people expressing their discontent is a head scratcher for you, your being confounded by that is a head scratcher for me.

I think the point you are missing is that 99% of the negativity here is from people who didn't buy the boxset. Would you fit in here? 

No, I didn't miss that point. It's why I said right at the beginning of my post that I didn't buy it and why I didn't. I'm not sure why that matters to you one way or the other. For me, whether I bought it or not, it's more about what it says about the mentality of the band/club right now. When they aren't putting their best efforts out there, aren't putting some love into their first ever catalogue boxset, which I think should be a big deal, it's just kind of a bummer to me as a fan, and as someone who would have bought something that was done right. The fact that they restricted it to so few members is also a bit of a burn. That along with the fact that their reissues aren't great sound-wise... Well, it's just kind of a let down when you feel like your favorite band doesn't care that much, especially when you know a ton of other comparable bands are doing it so well. Doing it right. I think it's okay for people to talk about that and still "keep coming back" because they still love the music and the shows and the fans and everything. Sorry you don't like it when people say this stuff, but I'm not sure why you are pissy about others just expressing how they feel about it. These are consumer items, so I figure the consumers and potential consumers have every right to criticize things they think aren't being done well.

Jesus now it's the quality of the repress? 

Look people got what they paid for. Not what many dreamed about. That's my point. Im not pissy, the constant negativity is frustrating and a little light is often a good thing. 

We'll not agree. Seems we rarely do. Such is life.

leyd agree I was happy I ordered and you clearly made a wise personal choice not to because you didn't like what was offered and photographed. but let's not try to make it any more romantic than it really is 

Err, yeah, the sound quality of the reissues that I've heard is pretty bad, and I've read reviews from others about the ones I haven't heard - they say the sound quality isn't so hot on those. Seriously, I have no clue why this comment bothers you. Look, some people require things to be all positive all the time, and some people have no problems with the negative. It's not because they are miserable, negative people. It's just because confronting negative things doesn't get to them. It's just fine to have whatever thoughts come to them, positive or negative, and express the thoughts honestly. All I'm saying is that I would have loooooooved for PJ to create a really amazing catalogue boxset, and to have paid real attention to sound quality for the release, and brought it to the mass market. That would have been awesome. I hope this box of reissues doesn't mean they will never bring a really good, high quality, special edition boxset to the market.

I do agree that to complain about the actual item not having features that weren't mentioned in the description, like having a stamp or whatever, don't make sense. Those kinds of things obviously would have been mentioned in the description. Expecting something extra, above and beyond the item description, seems pretty silly. But to have some sealed and some unsealed albums in the same box is different. I find that odd. I did not say that these boxes "should have been stamped" exactly. I was saying that the entire thing should have been done better. What I'm mourning is that their first catalogue boxset isn't way better in just about every way, and that it isn't a really big deal with specially produced records inside it. I would have been very interested in a really awesome product - it would have been a huge deal in my collection. But I saw the item description and knew this release would not meet my expectations, and didn't buy it. I wish their standards were higher. That is my complaint as a fan. I think that is what the complaint is for everyone complaining. I can't help but compare this boxset to all the other, far superior boxsets that I have seen released. It is just too bad PJ isn't into it enough to do the same.