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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I am just not sure how having used guns is relevant to the issue of gun control. Do some people think that handling these guns somehow changes the statistics in their own brains? I could go out and take full on firearm training courses with several different kinds of weapons, and the still be able to look at all the gun ownership/gun violence and death stats, and consider the American gun culture overall, and reach the same conclusions I had already come to before ever handling a gun.
    I don't think it's relevant other than to illustrate that someone can change their thinking about such an issue.  I've never been a hug gun enthusiast but I'm far more concerned about the abuse, misuse, dangers of guns in America than I was 30 years ago.  There are more careless/dangerous/stupid/irresponsible people now than there were then.   The increased fascination with and acts of violence in America are clear evidence of that.
    But that's what I don't get. Why would someone change their thinking about the issue just because they handled a gun? That doesn't change any of the facts.
    No it doesn't-- maybe it's just a moot point.  (I like that word, "moot"  :smile: )
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    Could have been the Russians, dont forget that James Clapper said that Russians can place "Cheese Pizza" on your computer.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    JC29856 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    Could have been the Russians, dont forget that James Clapper said that Russians can place "Cheese Pizza" on your computer.

    It seems as if you're not quite prepared to relinquish that idea.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    JC29856 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    Could have been the Russians, dont forget that James Clapper said that Russians can place "Cheese Pizza" on your computer.

    It seems as if you're not quite prepared to relinquish that idea.
    Anything is possible, cant rule anything out.
    Who woulda have thought Campos would seek asylum in Mexico after being shot.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    You know the brother has been crapping his pants since the shooting, he must have known his life was going to be under a microscope being related to the guy.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    mace1229 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    You know the brother has been crapping his pants since the shooting, he must have known his life was going to be under a microscope being related to the guy.

    For sure. The gig was up.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mace1229 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    You know the brother has been crapping his pants since the shooting, he must have known his life was going to be under a microscope being related to the guy.
    This brother isnt the brother that was interviewed shortly after the shootings, this brother was another brother.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    JC29856 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    You know the brother has been crapping his pants since the shooting, he must have known his life was going to be under a microscope being related to the guy.
    This brother isnt the brother that was interviewed shortly after the shootings, this brother was another brother.

    Regardless... a pooping of the pants did occur.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • KC138045
    KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,716
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    JC29856 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    You know the brother has been crapping his pants since the shooting, he must have known his life was going to be under a microscope being related to the guy.
    This brother isnt the brother that was interviewed shortly after the shootings, this brother was another brother.

    Regardless... a pooping of the pants did occur.
    He could of used these.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    JC29856 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The shooter's brother was arrested with child pornography.

    A family riddled with loser genetics.
    You know the brother has been crapping his pants since the shooting, he must have known his life was going to be under a microscope being related to the guy.
    This brother isnt the brother that was interviewed shortly after the shootings, this brother was another brother.
    Ah, thank you. I just assumed it was the brother who was giving all those interviews on the news. Definitely good to be specific when discussing child porn charges!
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    Stay classy MGM resorts.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/us/mgm-resorts-sues-victims.html
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    tbergs said:
    Stay classy MGM resorts.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/us/mgm-resorts-sues-victims.html
    The nerve of those people letting themselves get shot at! I swear!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • RideRick
    RideRick Hoorn Posts: 703

    Only in America..  really.. 

    I still get amazed about getting amazed about these kind of newsflashes.  There is no boundaries in what is possible.

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    brianlux said:
    tbergs said:
    Stay classy MGM resorts.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/us/mgm-resorts-sues-victims.html
    The nerve of those people letting themselves get shot at! I swear!
    I know huh! They should have done some dive and roll like in action films. That'll teach them!
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    What is Mandalay Bay supposed to do?  Pay out millions of dollars for something completely out of their control?

    If a lawsuit like this actually goes through where the hotel is liable then it will set a precedent and snowball out of control.

    The hotel can be charged, the concert venue can be charged, gun manufacturers can be charged, the city could be charged, so on and so forth.

    With all this being said the Hotel should do some sort of saving face and pay for doctors bills or try and file it under their insurance.

    Thinking more about this there won't be any silver lining from any of this...
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tempo_n_groove said:
    What is Mandalay Bay supposed to do?  Pay out millions of dollars for something completely out of their control?

    If a lawsuit like this actually goes through where the hotel is liable then it will set a precedent and snowball out of control.

    The hotel can be charged, the concert venue can be charged, gun manufacturers can be charged, the city could be charged, so on and so forth.

    With all this being said the Hotel should do some sort of saving face and pay for doctors bills or try and file it under their insurance.

    Thinking more about this there won't be any silver lining from any of this...
    They are “supposed to” defend themselves in the suits against them. They don’t need to counter sue. I wrote more in the other thread about this that I don’t want to repeat, but this is really an extra kick to victims. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Honestly - this seems like a really smart move by the company.  Why shouldn't there be 1 decision to decide if anyone can sue?  Why waste the time and effort and resources on individual lawsuits if they will all be found baseless?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,430
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    What is Mandalay Bay supposed to do?  Pay out millions of dollars for something completely out of their control?

    If a lawsuit like this actually goes through where the hotel is liable then it will set a precedent and snowball out of control.

    The hotel can be charged, the concert venue can be charged, gun manufacturers can be charged, the city could be charged, so on and so forth.

    With all this being said the Hotel should do some sort of saving face and pay for doctors bills or try and file it under their insurance.

    Thinking more about this there won't be any silver lining from any of this...
    They are “supposed to” defend themselves in the suits against them. They don’t need to counter sue. I wrote more in the other thread about this that I don’t want to repeat, but this is really an extra kick to victims. 
    this lawsuit seeks to render the victims lawsuits moot. they arent seeking damages. but seeking remedy in federal court to nullify those suits.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mickeyrat said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    What is Mandalay Bay supposed to do?  Pay out millions of dollars for something completely out of their control?

    If a lawsuit like this actually goes through where the hotel is liable then it will set a precedent and snowball out of control.

    The hotel can be charged, the concert venue can be charged, gun manufacturers can be charged, the city could be charged, so on and so forth.

    With all this being said the Hotel should do some sort of saving face and pay for doctors bills or try and file it under their insurance.

    Thinking more about this there won't be any silver lining from any of this...
    They are “supposed to” defend themselves in the suits against them. They don’t need to counter sue. I wrote more in the other thread about this that I don’t want to repeat, but this is really an extra kick to victims. 
    this lawsuit seeks to render the victims lawsuits moot. they arent seeking damages. but seeking remedy in federal court to nullify those suits.
    I know. I don’t agree with their attempt to use this law in this way. 
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