America's Gun Violence
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Yea, what a great book! I sometimes wonder if that's our friend rgambs there on the cover!Bentleyspop said:
Once again Brian comes through with a good book recommendation. I have that book sitting in my living room right where anyone can grab it and read it or borrow it.brianlux said:I think survival skills are great, right up there with all sorts of do-it-yourself skill, in importance for daily living. These skills are being lost. How many people, for instance, can build a fire in the rain or know how to tie a bowline knot or even know what it is used for?
But I would suggest a separate survival thread. A good place to start is with this book.
In any case, I don't see the point of going on and on about survival skills in a thread called "America's Gun Violence". I can see why some here see other as inferring that the problem is at least somewhat with the victims. I don't buy that. In the wild, danger lies at ever corner, yes. But I'm not going to settle for that in so-called civilized places like our towns, cities, gathering places and neighborhoods. And I don't like seeing the problem-- or even hinting at putting the problem-- on the victims. We could do better than that and should demand it.
I highly recommend it for anyone who plans on spending any real time in the outdoors.
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if you think he is suggesting that taking survival training will prevent mass shootings, I am not the one who is delusional.dignin said:
The person you are defending wants no gun restrictions. The options they are giving are not constructive, literally applying a band aid on a gunshot wound from an assault weapon. I take CPR training every year....that will have not prevent or mitigate mass shootings. That is delusional thinking.HughFreakingDillon said:
ONCE AGAIN: he is proposing both. Keep fighting the good fight re: gun control but also learn basic survival skills with regards to a possible active shooter scenario. I cannot fathom why anyone would have an issue with this. I think people are so entrenched in their gun hatred, they will not allow themselves to see constructive suggestions by a "gun nut".josevolution said:So the answer is just be aware of all your sorroundings at all times now survival skills oh and be armed yourself but any new laws ? nah who can benefit from that no one ! so here we are back at step1 until the next massacre and round round we go ...
And um, just to be clear, before someone tries again to accuse me of being a gun nut, let me introduce myself:
Hi, I'm Hugh Freaking Dillon. My friends/enemies call me HFD. I am a libtard who hates/fears guns, is pro-choice, thinks Donald Trump is an abhorent human being, an even worse president, agrees with Colin Kaepernick, socialized healthcare, a feminist, and is a Canadian who has an opinion on American politics, much to the dismay of many right-leaning Americans.
If you have any questions, please direct them through my secretary, Beaver, who also is my pet moose.
I and others here are willing to meet the gun nuts half way with just an assault weapon ban, they can keep all the rest of their toys. The gun nuts don't want to give even an inch...because us libtards will "take a mile".
So go on defending that nonsense.
Also, I didn't call you a gun nut, I said that if you want to get behind stupid gun nut analogies and make up more of your own you might as well be in their lot.
I am not defending the person, I'm defending the idea. But hey, if you think getting training and just being generally aware of their surroundings is a stupid idea, then hey, good on ya.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
oh, and "You should jump on the knives analogy bandwagon with the other gun nutters...". Using the word "other" in this context implies I am one of them. Nice backtrack attempt, though.dignin said:
The person you are defending wants no gun restrictions. The options they are giving are not constructive, literally applying a band aid on a gunshot wound from an assault weapon. I take CPR training every year....that will have not prevent or mitigate mass shootings. That is delusional thinking.HughFreakingDillon said:
ONCE AGAIN: he is proposing both. Keep fighting the good fight re: gun control but also learn basic survival skills with regards to a possible active shooter scenario. I cannot fathom why anyone would have an issue with this. I think people are so entrenched in their gun hatred, they will not allow themselves to see constructive suggestions by a "gun nut".josevolution said:So the answer is just be aware of all your sorroundings at all times now survival skills oh and be armed yourself but any new laws ? nah who can benefit from that no one ! so here we are back at step1 until the next massacre and round round we go ...
And um, just to be clear, before someone tries again to accuse me of being a gun nut, let me introduce myself:
Hi, I'm Hugh Freaking Dillon. My friends/enemies call me HFD. I am a libtard who hates/fears guns, is pro-choice, thinks Donald Trump is an abhorent human being, an even worse president, agrees with Colin Kaepernick, socialized healthcare, a feminist, and is a Canadian who has an opinion on American politics, much to the dismay of many right-leaning Americans.
If you have any questions, please direct them through my secretary, Beaver, who also is my pet moose.
I and others here are willing to meet the gun nuts half way with just an assault weapon ban, they can keep all the rest of their toys. The gun nuts don't want to give even an inch...because us libtards will "take a mile".
So go on defending that nonsense.
Also, I didn't call you a gun nut, I said that if you want to get behind stupid gun nut analogies and make up more of your own you might as well be in their lot.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
nope. just humour. I am actually not a liberal. I am liberal leaning, but I vote depending on the needs of the populace as I see them. But I've been called libtard so many times by right wingers because they have no other argument and just throw that out (or snowflake or commie) because they aren't intelligent enough for anything else.jnimhaoileoin said:
Why would you use such a derogatory word as 'libtard' to refer to yourself, are you trying to encourage those who think this is a reasonable way to characterise those with opposing political views??HughFreakingDillon said:
ONCE AGAIN: he is proposing both. Keep fighting the good fight re: gun control but also learn basic survival skills with regards to a possible active shooter scenario. I cannot fathom why anyone would have an issue with this. I think people are so entrenched in their gun hatred, they will not allow themselves to see constructive suggestions by a "gun nut".josevolution said:So the answer is just be aware of all your sorroundings at all times now survival skills oh and be armed yourself but any new laws ? nah who can benefit from that no one ! so here we are back at step1 until the next massacre and round round we go ...
And um, just to be clear, before someone tries again to accuse me of being a gun nut, let me introduce myself:
Hi, I'm Hugh Freaking Dillon. My friends/enemies call me HFD. I am a libtard who hates/fears guns, is pro-choice, thinks Donald Trump is an abhorent human being, an even worse president, agrees with Colin Kaepernick, socialized healthcare, a feminist, and is a Canadian who has an opinion on American politics, much to the dismay of many right-leaning Americans.
If you have any questions, please direct them through my secretary, Beaver, who also is my pet moose.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Maybe one of our resident gun "enthusiast" can explain the need for tracer and incendiary rounds? Also, please explain how making those illegal for public consumption is a violation of your 2nd Amendment rights.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Are those the hot topic now? I can think of no need for them outside of the military. I do not think that making them illegal would hurt too many gun enthusiasts feelings. If it would make you feel better about things to ban them, then go right ahead. But, humor me and explain how banning tracer rounds would have prevented any past or would prevent future gun violence? Oh yeah, that’s not the intent, the intent is to “stick it to the gun nuts” as someone stated earlier.Halifax2TheMax said:Maybe one of our resident gun "enthusiast" can explain the need for tracer and incendiary rounds? Also, please explain how making those illegal for public consumption is a violation of your 2nd Amendment rights.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Typical response from a nutter. As hot as lead, apparently. Triggered again. Did you answer the questions posed or just get triggered?PJPOWER said:
Are those the hot topic now? I can think of no need for them outside of the military. I do not think that making them illegal would hurt too many gun enthusiasts feelings. If it would make you feel better about things to ban them, then go right ahead. But, humor me and explain how banning tracer rounds would have prevented any past or would prevent future gun violence? Oh yeah, that’s not the intent, the intent is to “stick it to the gun nuts” as someone stated earlier.Halifax2TheMax said:Maybe one of our resident gun "enthusiast" can explain the need for tracer and incendiary rounds? Also, please explain how making those illegal for public consumption is a violation of your 2nd Amendment rights.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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??? I guess you are wanting me to say “typical response from a libtard”? I thought I did answer the question when I stated that I cannot think of any need for tracer rounds outside of the military...? Ban them, I personally would not cry about a 2nd Ammendment violation if they were banned. I do not speak for every Second Ammendment supporter, though, and someone else may have other concerns. Personally I think that they are a non-issue though. You didn’t answer my question though. Will banning tracer rounds solve anything or will they just make anti-gunners feel better? Either way, go ahead and ban them. I cannot think of anyone that would miss them...Are you fishing for a different response?Halifax2TheMax said:
Typical response from a nutter. As hot as lead, apparently. Triggered again. Did you answer the questions posed or just get triggered?PJPOWER said:
Are those the hot topic now? I can think of no need for them outside of the military. I do not think that making them illegal would hurt too many gun enthusiasts feelings. If it would make you feel better about things to ban them, then go right ahead. But, humor me and explain how banning tracer rounds would have prevented any past or would prevent future gun violence? Oh yeah, that’s not the intent, the intent is to “stick it to the gun nuts” as someone stated earlier.Halifax2TheMax said:Maybe one of our resident gun "enthusiast" can explain the need for tracer and incendiary rounds? Also, please explain how making those illegal for public consumption is a violation of your 2nd Amendment rights.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Did I say I wanted to ban them? I was just surprised that they're even available for public consumption. Its illustrative of how far the nutters have gone, that they think there isn't an issue allowing military grade weaponry into the public's hands. So you can walk your rounds into that deer? Or cluster of people cowering on a concert floor? Maybe combust the home invader? I don't get it. But you seem to think, oh well, if it makes you feel better.............What response did this libtard give? I asked a question and was immediately portrayed as being alarmist with the "hot topic" comment. You "enthusiast" seem awful defensive of your "hobby."PJPOWER said:
??? I guess you are wanting me to say “typical response from a libtard”? I thought I did answer the question when I stated that I cannot think of any need for tracer rounds outside of the military...? Ban them, I personally would not cry about a 2nd Ammendment violation if they were banned. I do not speak for every Second Ammendment supporter, though, and someone else may have other concerns. Personally I think that they are a non-issue though. You didn’t answer my question though. Will banning tracer rounds solve anything or will they just make anti-gunners feel better? Either way, go ahead and ban them. I cannot think of anyone that would miss them...Are you fishing for a different response?Halifax2TheMax said:
Typical response from a nutter. As hot as lead, apparently. Triggered again. Did you answer the questions posed or just get triggered?PJPOWER said:
Are those the hot topic now? I can think of no need for them outside of the military. I do not think that making them illegal would hurt too many gun enthusiasts feelings. If it would make you feel better about things to ban them, then go right ahead. But, humor me and explain how banning tracer rounds would have prevented any past or would prevent future gun violence? Oh yeah, that’s not the intent, the intent is to “stick it to the gun nuts” as someone stated earlier.Halifax2TheMax said:Maybe one of our resident gun "enthusiast" can explain the need for tracer and incendiary rounds? Also, please explain how making those illegal for public consumption is a violation of your 2nd Amendment rights.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I am not understanding your response. (Why are you so hostile?) Pjpower said ban them which I also agree with. I ve shot tracer bullets before in my m1 garand and ruger 10/22; I must admit it is cool to see at night but they serve no practical purpose. I couldn't care less if they get banned but are tracer bullets an issue? Is there even a need to to regulate them based on crime statistics?Halifax2TheMax said:
Did I say I wanted to ban them? I was just surprised that they're even available for public consumption. Its illustrative of how far the nutters have gone, that they think there isn't an issue allowing military grade weaponry into the public's hands. So you can walk your rounds into that deer? Or cluster of people cowering on a concert floor? Maybe combust the home invader? I don't get it. But you seem to think, oh well, if it makes you feel better.............What response did this libtard give? I asked a question and was immediately portrayed as being alarmist with the "hot topic" comment. You "enthusiast" seem awful defensive of your "hobby."PJPOWER said:
??? I guess you are wanting me to say “typical response from a libtard”? I thought I did answer the question when I stated that I cannot think of any need for tracer rounds outside of the military...? Ban them, I personally would not cry about a 2nd Ammendment violation if they were banned. I do not speak for every Second Ammendment supporter, though, and someone else may have other concerns. Personally I think that they are a non-issue though. You didn’t answer my question though. Will banning tracer rounds solve anything or will they just make anti-gunners feel better? Either way, go ahead and ban them. I cannot think of anyone that would miss them...Are you fishing for a different response?Halifax2TheMax said:
Typical response from a nutter. As hot as lead, apparently. Triggered again. Did you answer the questions posed or just get triggered?PJPOWER said:
Are those the hot topic now? I can think of no need for them outside of the military. I do not think that making them illegal would hurt too many gun enthusiasts feelings. If it would make you feel better about things to ban them, then go right ahead. But, humor me and explain how banning tracer rounds would have prevented any past or would prevent future gun violence? Oh yeah, that’s not the intent, the intent is to “stick it to the gun nuts” as someone stated earlier.Halifax2TheMax said:Maybe one of our resident gun "enthusiast" can explain the need for tracer and incendiary rounds? Also, please explain how making those illegal for public consumption is a violation of your 2nd Amendment rights.
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Tracer bullets would have been useful to the shitbird in Vegas after the crowd thinned out.
There's no need to regulate them based on crime statistics... just common sense. 'Cool to see at night' cannot be the reason we would not safeguard crowds of people from mutants with 'automatic' rifles.
Time is ticking before your next mass shooting. I wonder where it is going to be?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Why does there need to be some sort of crime statistics available that say they're a problem? You say your okay with banning them but then question the need for banning this military grade weaponry because of crime trends. Was there a problem with bump stocks 2 weeks ago? Let's try to be more proactive and prevent them from being the next tool citizens didn't need, but a psychopath took advantage of to maximize casualties.mcgruff10 said:
I am not understanding your response. (Why are you so hostile?) Pjpower said ban them which I also agree with. I ve shot tracer bullets before in my m1 garand and ruger 10/22; I must admit it is cool to see at night but they serve no practical purpose. I couldn't care less if they get banned but are tracer bullets an issue? Is there even a need to to regulate them based on crime statistics?Halifax2TheMax said:
Did I say I wanted to ban them? I was just surprised that they're even available for public consumption. Its illustrative of how far the nutters have gone, that they think there isn't an issue allowing military grade weaponry into the public's hands. So you can walk your rounds into that deer? Or cluster of people cowering on a concert floor? Maybe combust the home invader? I don't get it. But you seem to think, oh well, if it makes you feel better.............What response did this libtard give? I asked a question and was immediately portrayed as being alarmist with the "hot topic" comment. You "enthusiast" seem awful defensive of your "hobby."PJPOWER said:
??? I guess you are wanting me to say “typical response from a libtard”? I thought I did answer the question when I stated that I cannot think of any need for tracer rounds outside of the military...? Ban them, I personally would not cry about a 2nd Ammendment violation if they were banned. I do not speak for every Second Ammendment supporter, though, and someone else may have other concerns. Personally I think that they are a non-issue though. You didn’t answer my question though. Will banning tracer rounds solve anything or will they just make anti-gunners feel better? Either way, go ahead and ban them. I cannot think of anyone that would miss them...Are you fishing for a different response?Halifax2TheMax said:
Typical response from a nutter. As hot as lead, apparently. Triggered again. Did you answer the questions posed or just get triggered?PJPOWER said:
Are those the hot topic now? I can think of no need for them outside of the military. I do not think that making them illegal would hurt too many gun enthusiasts feelings. If it would make you feel better about things to ban them, then go right ahead. But, humor me and explain how banning tracer rounds would have prevented any past or would prevent future gun violence? Oh yeah, that’s not the intent, the intent is to “stick it to the gun nuts” as someone stated earlier.Halifax2TheMax said:Maybe one of our resident gun "enthusiast" can explain the need for tracer and incendiary rounds? Also, please explain how making those illegal for public consumption is a violation of your 2nd Amendment rights.
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Did he use tracer bullets?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Tracer bullets would have been useful to the shitbird in Vegas after the crowd thinned out.
There's no need to regulate them based on crime statistics... just common sense. 'Cool to see at night' cannot be the reason we would not safeguard crowds of people from mutants with 'automatic' rifles.
Time is ticking before your next mass shooting. I wonder where it is going to be?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Defined as four or more people being shot, we've had 10 since Las Vegas.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Tracer bullets would have been useful to the shitbird in Vegas after the crowd thinned out.
There's no need to regulate them based on crime statistics... just common sense. 'Cool to see at night' cannot be the reason we would not safeguard crowds of people from mutants with 'automatic' rifles.
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Did he use tracer bullets?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Tracer bullets would have been useful to the shitbird in Vegas after the crowd thinned out.
There's no need to regulate them based on crime statistics... just common sense. 'Cool to see at night' cannot be the reason we would not safeguard crowds of people from mutants with 'automatic' rifles.
Time is ticking before your next mass shooting. I wonder where it is going to be?
I said: 'would have been useful'.
I don't know if he used them or not, but if he could trace his line of fire... that would have assisted him after the 'shooting fish in a barrel' opportunity passed."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
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Defined as four or more people being shot, we've had 10 since Las Vegas.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Tracer bullets would have been useful to the shitbird in Vegas after the crowd thinned out.
There's no need to regulate them based on crime statistics... just common sense. 'Cool to see at night' cannot be the reason we would not safeguard crowds of people from mutants with 'automatic' rifles.
Time is ticking before your next mass shooting. I wonder where it is going to be?
I'm talking the mass shootings of the real grandiose variety (the only ones where people stop to wonder if maybe change might be required).
Those other mass shootings are boring."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Oh hell yeah, that would have been bad.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:mcgruff10 said:
Did he use tracer bullets?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Tracer bullets would have been useful to the shitbird in Vegas after the crowd thinned out.
There's no need to regulate them based on crime statistics... just common sense. 'Cool to see at night' cannot be the reason we would not safeguard crowds of people from mutants with 'automatic' rifles.
Time is ticking before your next mass shooting. I wonder where it is going to be?
I said: 'would have been useful'.
I don't know if he used them or not, but if he could trace his line of fire... that would have assisted him after the 'shooting fish in a barrel' opportunity passed.
Inciderary bullets....I had no clue that they even made them. I figured the last time they produced them was ww2.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I wish these discussions could come from a cool-headed, less-antagonistic place. Like, I get it, we anti-gunners are upset and have had enough. But why the need to constantly attack? how is that going to get anything constructive achieved?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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It would seem the majority of Americans would prefer greater restrictions.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/10/12/black-americans-want-new-gun-laws-to-curb-gun-violence-trump-offers-more-police/?hpid=hp_no-name_hp-card-politics:homepage/card&utm_term=.b089c959a38c
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Yup, don't make it illegal, just regulate it softly because everyone knows the ATF is fully funded and supported in their oversight role. Kind of like the EPA and the coal industry. There, I humored you PJPower. And Mace wonders why nothing changes?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/politics/nra-opposes-bump-stock-bills/index.html
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