America's Gun Violence
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Poorly stated on my part. RG and pjhawks have it covered though.PJPOWER said:
So, then, everyone that picks up a gun is “disrespectful” to those that died in Vegas? Just trying to truly understand wth you are talking about...tbergs said:
Why, did they have a beer so they could commit a DUI? A gun is picked up and used for killing. A beer can be a factor in why someone died or was killed. Not the same.mcgruff10 said:
With that line of thinking I guess everyone who drinks a beer disrespects people who have died in a dui.pjhawks said:
you disrespect them by defending guns and gun owners.mcgruff10 said:
Again, I would never disrespect anybody who died or got hurt in last week's shooting nor do I think my sarcastic remarks about banning knives in England correlated at all to what happened in Las Vegas, Nevada. Would I make a joke about banning knives in England in front of people who were shot last week in Las Vegas...um I guess. (although I fail to see how that would be brought up in conversation)rgambs said:
Would you stand by your conduct today if you knew one of the 500 people who were shot last week were reading this? What about the family of one of the 59 people who died?mcgruff10 said:
Ok so sarcasm not about mass shootings still disrespects people shot and killed in the worst single instance of gun violence in America. Got it.rgambs said:This is a thread about gun violence in America, and we are still laying to rest the victims of the worst single instance of gun violence in America.
If you think it's an appropriate time to voice your immature sarcasm, that's on you.
I call bullshit when I see it, and it stinks around here.
You wouldn't be ashamed to have made your little wannabe cute and wannabe clever quips?
Did you do the same a week after 9/11? I doubt it.
Would I make a joke about bump stocks? Obviously no. Big difference.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Happy napping!rgambs said:
I just put my toddler down for a nap so I'm going to go ahead and take a break from that mentality for a bit. Have fun with your trolling!PJPOWER said:
Lol, wow...So you make a couple sarcastic comments about UK gun laws in a Pearl Jam forum about American Gun Violence and all the sudden you are disrespectful of the victims in Vegas?? Please enlighten me further about how the association part of an eccentric leftist brain works!rgambs said:
No, but everyone who straight up trolls the American Gun Violence thread is.PJPOWER said:
So, then, everyone that picks up a gun is “disrespectful” to those that died in Vegas? Just trying to truly understand wth you are talking about...tbergs said:
Why, did they have a beer so they could commit a DUI? A gun is picked up and used for killing. A beer can be a factor in why someone died or was killed. Not the same.mcgruff10 said:
With that line of thinking I guess everyone who drinks a beer disrespects people who have died in a dui.pjhawks said:
you disrespect them by defending guns and gun owners.mcgruff10 said:
Again, I would never disrespect anybody who died or got hurt in last week's shooting nor do I think my sarcastic remarks about banning knives in England correlated at all to what happened in Las Vegas, Nevada. Would I make a joke about banning knives in England in front of people who were shot last week in Las Vegas...um I guess. (although I fail to see how that would be brought up in conversation)rgambs said:
Would you stand by your conduct today if you knew one of the 500 people who were shot last week were reading this? What about the family of one of the 59 people who died?mcgruff10 said:
Ok so sarcasm not about mass shootings still disrespects people shot and killed in the worst single instance of gun violence in America. Got it.rgambs said:This is a thread about gun violence in America, and we are still laying to rest the victims of the worst single instance of gun violence in America.
If you think it's an appropriate time to voice your immature sarcasm, that's on you.
I call bullshit when I see it, and it stinks around here.
You wouldn't be ashamed to have made your little wannabe cute and wannabe clever quips?
Did you do the same a week after 9/11? I doubt it.
Would I make a joke about bump stocks? Obviously no. Big difference.
That would be you of course.0 -
Aren't you the same guy that said I should hunt birds with rifles?dignin said:I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
lol that's well done, you expressed the sentiment I couldn't, and better than I ever would have thought to.dignin said:Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
There have been some incongruent and silly parallels presented which have managed to draw the ire of gun opponents. But to be fair... there have been some comments from gun opponents which have been inflammatory as well.
In my mind, asking for people to concede hunting rights and sometimes shaming them for shooting their protein versus buying it in a store where someone else has killed it for them is not cool. I've stated it before, but I respect responsible hunting even though I don't do it myself.
A hunter that kills his animal and utilizes most if not all the entire carcass is to be respected far more than the slob who... oh... say... orders 20 hot wings at the local pub- where the bones are so soft from being raised in cages you don't even know if you bit one or not (not to mention comes home to his deep freeze where boxes of frozen, factory farmed meat from Costco are ready to be consumed).
There's a middle way, people. This issue can't be 'all or nothing'.
"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
My cheeks are so red from all the embarrassment! So much embarrassment! Almost as embarrassed as the person that said “every gun is made to kill people”. Now, if I had said that, I would truly be embarrassed. I find it hard to interact in a serious conversation with anti-hunters and people that make absurd comments like that. Therefore I regress to try and stay on the same level as them...and it just turns into sarcastic jibber jabber.dignin said:There sure are a lot of gun nuts showing their true colours and embarrassing themselves today.
Keep it up, looks good on you guys.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Dude, I know that we have had our disagreements, but I am 100% in alignment with you here. Sorry for my string of sarcasm, it really just started out humorous to me and kept getting fueled by the irrational shots comming back. Thanks for keeping a bit of sanity throughout it all, lolThirty Bills Unpaid said:There have been some incongruent and silly parallels presented which have managed to draw the ire of gun opponents. But to be fair... there have been some comments from gun opponents which have been inflammatory as well.
In my mind, asking for people to concede hunting rights and sometimes shaming them for shooting their protein versus buying it in a store where someone else has killed it for them is not cool. I've stated it before, but I respect responsible hunting even though I don't do it myself.
A hunter that kills his animal and utilizes most if not all the entire carcass is to be respected far more than the slob who... oh... say... orders 20 hot wings at the local pub- where the bones are so soft from being raised in cages you don't even know if you bit one or not (not to mention comes home to his deep freeze where boxes of frozen, factory farmed meat from Costco are ready to be consumed).
There's a middle way, people. This issue can't be 'all or nothing'.0 -
To be fair, equating guns to knives is what really sidetracked this thread. I have no problem with someone who hunts their own food, but denying that a gun is made to kill is as ludicrous as claiming you should be able to own as many as you want because it's your right. There is no middle ground there, just as there is none for those who say guns are only made to kill people. Both views are way off.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:There have been some incongruent and silly parallels presented which have managed to draw the ire of gun opponents. But to be fair... there have been some comments from gun opponents which have been inflammatory as well.
In my mind, asking for people to concede hunting rights and sometimes shaming them for shooting their protein versus buying it in a store where someone else has killed it for them is not cool. I've stated it before, but I respect responsible hunting even though I don't do it myself.
A hunter that kills his animal and utilizes most if not all the entire carcass is to be respected far more than the slob who... oh... say... orders 20 hot wings at the local pub- where the bones are so soft from being raised in cages you don't even know if you bit one or not (not to mention comes home to his deep freeze where boxes of frozen, factory farmed meat from Costco are ready to be consumed).
There's a middle way, people. This issue can't be 'all or nothing'.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
PJPOWER said:
My cheeks are so red from all the embarrassment! So much embarrassment! Almost as embarrassed as the person that said “every gun is made to kill people”. Now, if I had said that, I would truly be embarrassed. I find it hard to interact in a serious conversation with anti-hunters and people that make absurd comments like that. Therefore I regress to try and stay on the same level as them...and it just turns into sarcastic jibber jabber.dignin said:There sure are a lot of gun nuts showing their true colours and embarrassing themselves today.
Keep it up, looks good on you guys.
I never wonder to see men wicked, but I often wonder to see them not ashamed.
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PJPOWER said:
Dude, I know that we have had our disagreements, but I am 100% in alignment with you here. Sorry for my string of sarcasm, it really just started out humorous to me and kept getting fueled by the irrational shots comming back. Thanks for keeping a bit of sanity throughout it all, lolThirty Bills Unpaid said:There have been some incongruent and silly parallels presented which have managed to draw the ire of gun opponents. But to be fair... there have been some comments from gun opponents which have been inflammatory as well.
In my mind, asking for people to concede hunting rights and sometimes shaming them for shooting their protein versus buying it in a store where someone else has killed it for them is not cool. I've stated it before, but I respect responsible hunting even though I don't do it myself.
A hunter that kills his animal and utilizes most if not all the entire carcass is to be respected far more than the slob who... oh... say... orders 20 hot wings at the local pub- where the bones are so soft from being raised in cages you don't even know if you bit one or not (not to mention comes home to his deep freeze where boxes of frozen, factory farmed meat from Costco are ready to be consumed).
There's a middle way, people. This issue can't be 'all or nothing'.
You would never need to apologize to me for expressing your viewpoint unless it was an unfair, cheap shot at me personally. Even then... I have thick skin (although Byrnzie managed to wound me every now and then lol).
We do disagree a lot, but I'm pretty sure if we were together sometime... there would be some fun to be had.
I'm killing time before heading to the in-laws for factory farmed turkey and ham. A nice ipa in hand, a mountain bike ride under the belt, and Damn the Torpedoes spinning on my turntable.
Lol. Truth be told... I'm also flicking through my Tim Horton's Hockey Cards. My family thinks I've gone off the deep end."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
CM189191 said:PJPOWER said:
My cheeks are so red from all the embarrassment! So much embarrassment! Almost as embarrassed as the person that said “every gun is made to kill people”. Now, if I had said that, I would truly be embarrassed. I find it hard to interact in a serious conversation with anti-hunters and people that make absurd comments like that. Therefore I regress to try and stay on the same level as them...and it just turns into sarcastic jibber jabber.dignin said:There sure are a lot of gun nuts showing their true colours and embarrassing themselves today.
Keep it up, looks good on you guys.
I never wonder to see men wicked, but I often wonder to see them not ashamed.
-Jonathan Swift"He wrapped himself in quotations- as a beggar would enfold himself in the purple of Emperors."-Kipling0 -
And this is fair.tbergs said:
To be fair, equating guns to knives is what really sidetracked this thread. I have no problem with someone who hunts their own food, but denying that a gun is made to kill is as ludicrous as claiming you should be able to own as many as you want because it's your right. There is no middle ground there, just as there is none for those who say guns are only made to kill people. Both views are way off.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:There have been some incongruent and silly parallels presented which have managed to draw the ire of gun opponents. But to be fair... there have been some comments from gun opponents which have been inflammatory as well.
In my mind, asking for people to concede hunting rights and sometimes shaming them for shooting their protein versus buying it in a store where someone else has killed it for them is not cool. I've stated it before, but I respect responsible hunting even though I don't do it myself.
A hunter that kills his animal and utilizes most if not all the entire carcass is to be respected far more than the slob who... oh... say... orders 20 hot wings at the local pub- where the bones are so soft from being raised in cages you don't even know if you bit one or not (not to mention comes home to his deep freeze where boxes of frozen, factory farmed meat from Costco are ready to be consumed).
There's a middle way, people. This issue can't be 'all or nothing'.
"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Del, You are the fairest of them all!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And this is fair.tbergs said:
To be fair, equating guns to knives is what really sidetracked this thread. I have no problem with someone who hunts their own food, but denying that a gun is made to kill is as ludicrous as claiming you should be able to own as many as you want because it's your right. There is no middle ground there, just as there is none for those who say guns are only made to kill people. Both views are way off.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:There have been some incongruent and silly parallels presented which have managed to draw the ire of gun opponents. But to be fair... there have been some comments from gun opponents which have been inflammatory as well.
In my mind, asking for people to concede hunting rights and sometimes shaming them for shooting their protein versus buying it in a store where someone else has killed it for them is not cool. I've stated it before, but I respect responsible hunting even though I don't do it myself.
A hunter that kills his animal and utilizes most if not all the entire carcass is to be respected far more than the slob who... oh... say... orders 20 hot wings at the local pub- where the bones are so soft from being raised in cages you don't even know if you bit one or not (not to mention comes home to his deep freeze where boxes of frozen, factory farmed meat from Costco are ready to be consumed).
There's a middle way, people. This issue can't be 'all or nothing'.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Jesus lads, the level of debate went seriously downhill here today. The facetious attempts to compare the threat of knives to that of guns is nothing short of ridiculous. Also, can I just point out that 8 of my brothers and their families live in England and have never mentioned any issue or fear of knife violence0
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mcgruff10 said:
Del, You are the fairest of them all!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And this is fair.tbergs said:
To be fair, equating guns to knives is what really sidetracked this thread. I have no problem with someone who hunts their own food, but denying that a gun is made to kill is as ludicrous as claiming you should be able to own as many as you want because it's your right. There is no middle ground there, just as there is none for those who say guns are only made to kill people. Both views are way off.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:There have been some incongruent and silly parallels presented which have managed to draw the ire of gun opponents. But to be fair... there have been some comments from gun opponents which have been inflammatory as well.
In my mind, asking for people to concede hunting rights and sometimes shaming them for shooting their protein versus buying it in a store where someone else has killed it for them is not cool. I've stated it before, but I respect responsible hunting even though I don't do it myself.
A hunter that kills his animal and utilizes most if not all the entire carcass is to be respected far more than the slob who... oh... say... orders 20 hot wings at the local pub- where the bones are so soft from being raised in cages you don't even know if you bit one or not (not to mention comes home to his deep freeze where boxes of frozen, factory farmed meat from Costco are ready to be consumed).
There's a middle way, people. This issue can't be 'all or nothing'.
Okay... before I say anything at all... does my sarcasm meter need to be turned up here?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
That’s fine as long as it’s made out of plastic and only has serrated edges. Anything else is a murder weaponPJfanwillneverleave1 said:I refuse to use anything but a knife to butter my toast.
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No not at all. Although I am still disappointed in you for not picking up my sarcasm before.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:mcgruff10 said:
Del, You are the fairest of them all!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
And this is fair.tbergs said:
To be fair, equating guns to knives is what really sidetracked this thread. I have no problem with someone who hunts their own food, but denying that a gun is made to kill is as ludicrous as claiming you should be able to own as many as you want because it's your right. There is no middle ground there, just as there is none for those who say guns are only made to kill people. Both views are way off.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:There have been some incongruent and silly parallels presented which have managed to draw the ire of gun opponents. But to be fair... there have been some comments from gun opponents which have been inflammatory as well.
In my mind, asking for people to concede hunting rights and sometimes shaming them for shooting their protein versus buying it in a store where someone else has killed it for them is not cool. I've stated it before, but I respect responsible hunting even though I don't do it myself.
A hunter that kills his animal and utilizes most if not all the entire carcass is to be respected far more than the slob who... oh... say... orders 20 hot wings at the local pub- where the bones are so soft from being raised in cages you don't even know if you bit one or not (not to mention comes home to his deep freeze where boxes of frozen, factory farmed meat from Costco are ready to be consumed).
There's a middle way, people. This issue can't be 'all or nothing'.
Okay... before I say anything at all... does my sarcasm meter need to be turned up here?
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Here's the best solution to the 2nd amendment and gun control debate.......
Someone tell Herr drumpf, his advisers, and supporters that President Obama was responsible for the 2nd amendment and was against gun control and national gun registry.
He would move so fast to get rid of the 2nd amendment and institute widespread gun control and national registry that you would think someone's life depended on it. And his base would totally support him on it.0 -
Ha, that would almost work. Only problem is you would have the complete reverse effect on the Obama supporter side and all of the anti-Trump folks would then be staunch hardline 2nd Amendment supporters and totally against any kind of “Trump era gun control”Bentleyspop said:Here's the best solution to the 2nd amendment and gun control debate.......
Someone tell Herr drumpf, his advisers, and supporters that President Obama was responsible for the 2nd amendment and was against gun control and national gun registry.
He would move so fast to get rid of the 2nd amendment and institute widespread gun control and national registry that you would think someone's life depended on it. And his base would totally support him on it.0
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