Obamacare is a mess

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,229
    edited September 2017
    My daughter graduated from college in May.  Just got a full time job and is covered there.

    I logged in to healthcare.gov to report the change to remove her from our policy.  Took about 5 minutes.  Three days later I get my allocated bill in the mail.  Premium dropped about $200/month (I was notified of this online....as soon as I indicated the change)

    Simple as that.  

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  • rgambs
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    Gern Blansten said:
    My daughter graduated from college in May.  Just got a full time job and is covered there.

    I logged in to healthcare.gov to report the change to remove her from our policy.  Took about 5 minutes.  Three days later I get my allocated bill in the mail.  Premium dropped about $200/month (I was notified of this online....as soon as I indicated the change)

    Simple as that.  

    Thanks Obama
    The people who think that private systems are more efficient and cheaper than single payer government systems are clearly people who have no experience in healthcare billing lol
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Did McCain just do it again?!?1
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Did McCain just do it again?!?1
    looks that way
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,313
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Did McCain just do it again?!?1
    That's what you get when you make the statements Trump made about someone who honorably served their country. I bet McCain could kick Trump's ass and would probably like to as well.
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  • stuckinline
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    Cliffy6745 said:
    Did McCain just do it again?!?1
    "I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal," the Arizona Republican said in a statement. "I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried. Nor could I support it without knowing how much it will cost, how it will (affect) insurance premiums, and how many people will be helped or hurt by it. Without a full CBO score, which won't be available by the end of the month, we won't have reliable answers to any of those questions."
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,293
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Did McCain just do it again?!?1
    That's what you get when you make the statements Trump made about someone who honorably served their country. I bet McCain could kick Trump's ass and would probably like to as well.
    I really don't think it's that though. McCain has always did what he thinks is the right thing. Sure, to us liberals his idea of the right thing is waaaay fucking off sometimes but he doesn't just make his choices based on red and blue, he makes them based on what his mind/heart believes, and that's why I've always had a hard time disliking him. I really hope we can have another election someday with as respectable candidates as Obama and McCain were.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,659
    Good on McCain fuck Spineless Ryan & turtle face McConnell....
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Somebody needs to double tap this bill. It keeps coming back from the dead.


  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    still need one more vote!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    brianlux said:
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
    Rand Paul? He is a no because the bill isn't fucked up enough. Rand Paul can go fuck himself.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
    Rand Paul? He is a no because the bill isn't fucked up enough. Rand Paul can go fuck himself.
    Rand Paul is very likely to vote against the Graham-Cassidy proposal.  Maybe not really the right time to be tell him to f himself.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
    Rand Paul? He is a no because the bill isn't fucked up enough. Rand Paul can go fuck himself.
    Rand Paul is very likely to vote against the Graham-Cassidy proposal.  Maybe not really the right time to be tell him to f himself.
    We can think it, though =)
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
    Rand Paul? He is a no because the bill isn't fucked up enough. Rand Paul can go fuck himself.
    Rand Paul is very likely to vote against the Graham-Cassidy proposal.  Maybe not really the right time to be tell him to f himself.
    We can think it, though =)
    Yes, think it, say it.  I don't mean to sound like I'm telling anyone what to do or think.  I'm just suggesting that when someone  who is from a position most often of an opposing party or side does something that supports something one is in favor of, that it is more constructive to applaud that move rather than say "fuck you".  Unless, of course, the point is simply to champion division, anger, divisiveness, etc.   Maybe some people actually don't like the idea of getting along or having a world with less conflict.  I don't know.  Maybe so.

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
    Rand Paul? He is a no because the bill isn't fucked up enough. Rand Paul can go fuck himself.
    Rand Paul is very likely to vote against the Graham-Cassidy proposal.  Maybe not really the right time to be tell him to f himself.
    We can think it, though =)
    Yes, think it, say it.  I don't mean to sound like I'm telling anyone what to do or think.  I'm just suggesting that when someone  who is from a position most often of an opposing party or side does something that supports something one is in favor of, that it is more constructive to applaud that move rather than say "fuck you".  Unless, of course, the point is simply to champion division, anger, divisiveness, etc.   Maybe some people actually don't like the idea of getting along or having a world with less conflict.  I don't know.  Maybe so.

    No, brian, the point isn't to champion division, anger or divisiveness.  The point is to get a decent health care system for everybody in the country. I don't believe Paul is attempting to do that with his vote. He's only voting against the current proposal because it isn't bad enough for his tastes. I can accept and be glad of the vote without applauding his reasons for it.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
    Rand Paul? He is a no because the bill isn't fucked up enough. Rand Paul can go fuck himself.
    Rand Paul is very likely to vote against the Graham-Cassidy proposal.  Maybe not really the right time to be tell him to f himself.
    We can think it, though =)
    Yes, think it, say it.  I don't mean to sound like I'm telling anyone what to do or think.  I'm just suggesting that when someone  who is from a position most often of an opposing party or side does something that supports something one is in favor of, that it is more constructive to applaud that move rather than say "fuck you".  Unless, of course, the point is simply to champion division, anger, divisiveness, etc.   Maybe some people actually don't like the idea of getting along or having a world with less conflict.  I don't know.  Maybe so.

    What are Rand Paul's motives? If this was only about taking sides I would have said McCain could go fuck himself, but I didn't.
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
    Rand Paul? He is a no because the bill isn't fucked up enough. Rand Paul can go fuck himself.
    Rand Paul is very likely to vote against the Graham-Cassidy proposal.  Maybe not really the right time to be tell him to f himself.
    We can think it, though =)
    Yes, think it, say it.  I don't mean to sound like I'm telling anyone what to do or think.  I'm just suggesting that when someone  who is from a position most often of an opposing party or side does something that supports something one is in favor of, that it is more constructive to applaud that move rather than say "fuck you".  Unless, of course, the point is simply to champion division, anger, divisiveness, etc.   Maybe some people actually don't like the idea of getting along or having a world with less conflict.  I don't know.  Maybe so.

    Thats why nothing gets solved. Both sides are hypocrites.  Politicians and the citizens who are hardcore this or that.  If hardcore dems and hardcore republicans would analyze themselves they’d see that they’re the same kind of person 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    cp3iverson said:
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
    Rand Paul? He is a no because the bill isn't fucked up enough. Rand Paul can go fuck himself.
    Rand Paul is very likely to vote against the Graham-Cassidy proposal.  Maybe not really the right time to be tell him to f himself.
    We can think it, though =)
    Yes, think it, say it.  I don't mean to sound like I'm telling anyone what to do or think.  I'm just suggesting that when someone  who is from a position most often of an opposing party or side does something that supports something one is in favor of, that it is more constructive to applaud that move rather than say "fuck you".  Unless, of course, the point is simply to champion division, anger, divisiveness, etc.   Maybe some people actually don't like the idea of getting along or having a world with less conflict.  I don't know.  Maybe so.

    Thats why nothing gets solved. Both sides are hypocrites.  Politicians and the citizens who are hardcore this or that.  If hardcore dems and hardcore republicans would analyze themselves they’d see that they’re the same kind of person 
    So...both sides?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,313
    CM189191 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    brianlux said:
    This is a good to for folks on the left to acknowledge McCain and Rand Paul for doing the right thing.  Maybe they and other like them will continue to do so.
    Rand Paul? He is a no because the bill isn't fucked up enough. Rand Paul can go fuck himself.
    Rand Paul is very likely to vote against the Graham-Cassidy proposal.  Maybe not really the right time to be tell him to f himself.
    We can think it, though =)
    Yes, think it, say it.  I don't mean to sound like I'm telling anyone what to do or think.  I'm just suggesting that when someone  who is from a position most often of an opposing party or side does something that supports something one is in favor of, that it is more constructive to applaud that move rather than say "fuck you".  Unless, of course, the point is simply to champion division, anger, divisiveness, etc.   Maybe some people actually don't like the idea of getting along or having a world with less conflict.  I don't know.  Maybe so.

    Thats why nothing gets solved. Both sides are hypocrites.  Politicians and the citizens who are hardcore this or that.  If hardcore dems and hardcore republicans would analyze themselves they’d see that they’re the same kind of person 
    So...both sides?
    Yea right? Both sides. Obama thoughtfully crafted a bill, got it passed and made some lives better. The repubs, despite the rehtoric and control of all three branches of government haven't done shit. But sure, blame the Dems. Don't even get me going on the shambles the previous Republican administration left this country in and what was turned over to trump, yea sure, right the ship? Trump is steering the ship right into the iceberg.
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