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California goes national!JC29856 said:California progressives.California Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon shelved for the year SB562, which intends to establish a state single payer health care system, he’s been subject to mass protests and even death threats. The bill’s chief backers, including the California Nurses Association and the Bernie Sanders-affiliated Our Revolution, angrily point to Rendon as the main roadblock to truly universal health care.
They’re completely wrong. What’s more, they know they’re wrong. They’re perfectly aware that SB562 is a shell bill that cannot become law without a ballot measure approved by voters. Rather than committing to raising the millions of dollars that would be needed to overcome special interests and pass that initiative, they would, apparently, rather deceive their supporters, hiding the realities of California’s woeful political structure in favor of a morality play designed to advance careers and aggrandize power.
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/30/california-single-payer-organizers-are-deceiving-their-supporters-its-time-to-stop/
anyone remember how progressive democrats in Cali called for single payer when they knew it wouldn't pass under GOP control?
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JC, I count five original links about co-sponsoring the Single Payer Bill, and one re-post of another link you submitted a few weeks back, all in the span of one page. Can you dig up some more links please? I personally don't feel that I can wrap my head around a topic unless I see at least nine links with the exact same content. I'd also like a few more cynical remarks about how devious and deceptive everyone on Earth is to really let the message sink in.
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you can't count and you can't read or you're confused. Although I understand the confusion, I expect more from you. Have you had your coffee yet?benjs said:JC, I count five original links about co-sponsoring the Single Payer Bill, and one re-post of another link you submitted a few weeks back, all in the span of one page. Can you dig up some more links please? I personally don't feel that I can wrap my head around a topic unless I see at least nine links with the exact same content. I'd also like a few more cynical remarks about how devious and deceptive everyone on Earth is to really let the message sink in.
And when you're done all this, since you're taking requests, play Free Bird.0 -
Soooooo......
What is the party's direction....what are there big ideas that the people want...and who are their leaders?
Please tell me, cause I don't know / can't tell. And it's a shame. I'm not a fan of the party really, but unless the Repubs run against a sitting president (or he isnt in office anymore by the election time)...the Dems are my only hope to get out of this Trump disaster.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Antifa is the worst at countingJC29856 said:
you can't count and you can't read or you're confused. Although I understand the confusion, I expect more from you. Have you had your coffee yet?benjs said:JC, I count five original links about co-sponsoring the Single Payer Bill, and one re-post of another link you submitted a few weeks back, all in the span of one page. Can you dig up some more links please? I personally don't feel that I can wrap my head around a topic unless I see at least nine links with the exact same content. I'd also like a few more cynical remarks about how devious and deceptive everyone on Earth is to really let the message sink in.
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JC29856 said:litmus test
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/348651-kamala-harris-announces-she-will-co-sponsor-single-payer-health-insuranceKamala Harris announces she will co-sponsor single-payer healthcare
single payer and Medicare for all are not synonymous!JC29856 said:http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/senator-kamala-harris-says-shell-support-a-single-payer-health-care-bill/
Senator Kamala Harris said on Wednesday that she will co-sponsor Sen. Bernie Sanders’ anticipated single-payer health care bill. This makes Harris the first Senator to publicly announce support for the Medicare-for-all bill, which Sanders has said he’ll introduce in September.
fyi single payer is not the same as Medicare for allJC29856 said:JC29856 said:
California goes national!JC29856 said:California progressives.California Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon shelved for the year SB562, which intends to establish a state single payer health care system, he’s been subject to mass protests and even death threats. The bill’s chief backers, including the California Nurses Association and the Bernie Sanders-affiliated Our Revolution, angrily point to Rendon as the main roadblock to truly universal health care.
They’re completely wrong. What’s more, they know they’re wrong. They’re perfectly aware that SB562 is a shell bill that cannot become law without a ballot measure approved by voters. Rather than committing to raising the millions of dollars that would be needed to overcome special interests and pass that initiative, they would, apparently, rather deceive their supporters, hiding the realities of California’s woeful political structure in favor of a morality play designed to advance careers and aggrandize power.
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/30/california-single-payer-organizers-are-deceiving-their-supporters-its-time-to-stop/
anyone remember how progressive democrats in Cali called for single payer when they knew it wouldn't pass under GOP control?JC29856 said:JC29856 said:spineless sellouts and moral compasses
https://newrepublic.com/article/143650/killed-single-payer-californiaWhat Killed Single-Payer In California?
If single-payer can't pass with Democratic super-majorities in the Golden State, that raises serious questions about any national effort.
California goes NationalJC29856 said:Bernie Sanders Knows His Medicare-For-All Bill Won't Pass. That's Not The Point
http://www.npr.org/2017/08/11/542676994/bernie-sanders-knows-his-medicare-for-all-bill-wont-pass-thats-not-the-point
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/325814-sanders-says-he-will-introduce-medicare-for-all-bill
"Well, you know, it's a goal. In this Congress, we won't pass it," Welch said after the town hall. "But I think we have to do keep the goal out there, because we need in this country, like any industrialized country, a healthcare system that's affordable, accessible and universal."
Sound familiar?
Is that enough evidence for you? You're right, I hadn't had my coffee - otherwise, I'd have seen that you posted seven times on the topic (not five). Who's confused?JC29856 said:Bernie tried this in 2013, no co-sponsors then. It may have had a better chance at passing when Democrats had control over house and Senate for that short four month period under Obama.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/1782
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the emailsGo Beavers said:I kind of miss Benghazi.
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benjs said:JC29856 said:litmus test
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/348651-kamala-harris-announces-she-will-co-sponsor-single-payer-health-insuranceKamala Harris announces she will co-sponsor single-payer healthcare
single payer and Medicare for all are not synonymous!JC29856 said:http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/senator-kamala-harris-says-shell-support-a-single-payer-health-care-bill/
Senator Kamala Harris said on Wednesday that she will co-sponsor Sen. Bernie Sanders’ anticipated single-payer health care bill. This makes Harris the first Senator to publicly announce support for the Medicare-for-all bill, which Sanders has said he’ll introduce in September.
fyi single payer is not the same as Medicare for allJC29856 said:JC29856 said:
California goes national!JC29856 said:California progressives.California Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon shelved for the year SB562, which intends to establish a state single payer health care system, he’s been subject to mass protests and even death threats. The bill’s chief backers, including the California Nurses Association and the Bernie Sanders-affiliated Our Revolution, angrily point to Rendon as the main roadblock to truly universal health care.
They’re completely wrong. What’s more, they know they’re wrong. They’re perfectly aware that SB562 is a shell bill that cannot become law without a ballot measure approved by voters. Rather than committing to raising the millions of dollars that would be needed to overcome special interests and pass that initiative, they would, apparently, rather deceive their supporters, hiding the realities of California’s woeful political structure in favor of a morality play designed to advance careers and aggrandize power.
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/30/california-single-payer-organizers-are-deceiving-their-supporters-its-time-to-stop/
anyone remember how progressive democrats in Cali called for single payer when they knew it wouldn't pass under GOP control?JC29856 said:JC29856 said:spineless sellouts and moral compasses
https://newrepublic.com/article/143650/killed-single-payer-californiaWhat Killed Single-Payer In California?
If single-payer can't pass with Democratic super-majorities in the Golden State, that raises serious questions about any national effort.
California goes NationalJC29856 said:Bernie Sanders Knows His Medicare-For-All Bill Won't Pass. That's Not The Point
http://www.npr.org/2017/08/11/542676994/bernie-sanders-knows-his-medicare-for-all-bill-wont-pass-thats-not-the-point
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/325814-sanders-says-he-will-introduce-medicare-for-all-bill
"Well, you know, it's a goal. In this Congress, we won't pass it," Welch said after the town hall. "But I think we have to do keep the goal out there, because we need in this country, like any industrialized country, a healthcare system that's affordable, accessible and universal."
Sound familiar?
Is that enough evidence for you? You're right, I hadn't had my coffee - otherwise, I'd have seen that you posted seven times on the topic (not five). Who's confused?JC29856 said:Bernie tried this in 2013, no co-sponsors then. It may have had a better chance at passing when Democrats had control over house and Senate for that short four month period under Obama.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/1782
"co-sponsors, there are no fu(king co-sponsors"
Dems: trump Putin collusion, guilty, impeach
Dems: Awan who?
Dems: underage hookers, bribery, innocent until proven guilty
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jc's: ANTIFA! ANTIFA! ANTIFA!JC29856 said:benjs said:JC29856 said:litmus test
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/348651-kamala-harris-announces-she-will-co-sponsor-single-payer-health-insuranceKamala Harris announces she will co-sponsor single-payer healthcare
single payer and Medicare for all are not synonymous!JC29856 said:http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/senator-kamala-harris-says-shell-support-a-single-payer-health-care-bill/
Senator Kamala Harris said on Wednesday that she will co-sponsor Sen. Bernie Sanders’ anticipated single-payer health care bill. This makes Harris the first Senator to publicly announce support for the Medicare-for-all bill, which Sanders has said he’ll introduce in September.
fyi single payer is not the same as Medicare for allJC29856 said:JC29856 said:
California goes national!JC29856 said:California progressives.California Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon shelved for the year SB562, which intends to establish a state single payer health care system, he’s been subject to mass protests and even death threats. The bill’s chief backers, including the California Nurses Association and the Bernie Sanders-affiliated Our Revolution, angrily point to Rendon as the main roadblock to truly universal health care.
They’re completely wrong. What’s more, they know they’re wrong. They’re perfectly aware that SB562 is a shell bill that cannot become law without a ballot measure approved by voters. Rather than committing to raising the millions of dollars that would be needed to overcome special interests and pass that initiative, they would, apparently, rather deceive their supporters, hiding the realities of California’s woeful political structure in favor of a morality play designed to advance careers and aggrandize power.
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/30/california-single-payer-organizers-are-deceiving-their-supporters-its-time-to-stop/
anyone remember how progressive democrats in Cali called for single payer when they knew it wouldn't pass under GOP control?JC29856 said:JC29856 said:spineless sellouts and moral compasses
https://newrepublic.com/article/143650/killed-single-payer-californiaWhat Killed Single-Payer In California?
If single-payer can't pass with Democratic super-majorities in the Golden State, that raises serious questions about any national effort.
California goes NationalJC29856 said:Bernie Sanders Knows His Medicare-For-All Bill Won't Pass. That's Not The Point
http://www.npr.org/2017/08/11/542676994/bernie-sanders-knows-his-medicare-for-all-bill-wont-pass-thats-not-the-point
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/325814-sanders-says-he-will-introduce-medicare-for-all-bill
"Well, you know, it's a goal. In this Congress, we won't pass it," Welch said after the town hall. "But I think we have to do keep the goal out there, because we need in this country, like any industrialized country, a healthcare system that's affordable, accessible and universal."
Sound familiar?
Is that enough evidence for you? You're right, I hadn't had my coffee - otherwise, I'd have seen that you posted seven times on the topic (not five). Who's confused?JC29856 said:Bernie tried this in 2013, no co-sponsors then. It may have had a better chance at passing when Democrats had control over house and Senate for that short four month period under Obama.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/1782
"co-sponsors, there are no fu(king co-sponsors"
Dems: trump Putin collusion, guilty, impeach
Dems: Awan who?
Dems: underage hookers, bribery, innocent until proven guilty
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aipac to progressive democrats: don't let the door hit you on the end of your large intestine
interfering in elections!
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-lobby-forces-progressive-out-illinois-governors-race
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JC29856 said:aipac to progressive democrats: don't let the door hit you on the end of your large intestine
interfering in elections!
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-lobby-forces-progressive-out-illinois-governors-race
yeah--staying away from that link.www.myspace.com0 -
don't be scaredThe Juggler said:JC29856 said:aipac to progressive democrats: don't let the door hit you on the end of your large intestine
interfering in elections!
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-lobby-forces-progressive-out-illinois-governors-race
yeah--staying away from that link.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/08/hillary-hates-again/
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I'll tell ya what to be scared of......ANTIFA!JC29856 said:
don't be scaredThe Juggler said:JC29856 said:aipac to progressive democrats: don't let the door hit you on the end of your large intestine
interfering in elections!
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-lobby-forces-progressive-out-illinois-governors-race
yeah--staying away from that link.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/08/hillary-hates-again/
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You are becoming the troll....it's usually what happens to people that lose it trying to deal with a troll.The Juggler said:
I'll tell ya what to be scared of......ANTIFA!JC29856 said:
don't be scaredThe Juggler said:JC29856 said:aipac to progressive democrats: don't let the door hit you on the end of your large intestine
interfering in elections!
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-lobby-forces-progressive-out-illinois-governors-race
yeah--staying away from that link.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/08/hillary-hates-again/hippiemom = goodness0 -
backwards thinking...
In response, Democratic senators and outside groups have begun telling Sanders and friendly intermediaries that if he wants to be a leading figure for Democrats ahead of 2020’s presidential election, he needs to get his supporters in line — or at least publicly disavow their more incendiary statements.
Shouldn't senators align with their constituents?
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/08/bernie-backers-attacks-infuriate-democrats-242386
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No, they absolutely should not, if their supporters are espousing non-productive or dangerous views. Senators and politicians broadly should lead, not follow. Your argument is backwards.JC29856 said:backwards thinking...
In response, Democratic senators and outside groups have begun telling Sanders and friendly intermediaries that if he wants to be a leading figure for Democrats ahead of 2020’s presidential election, he needs to get his supporters in line — or at least publicly disavow their more incendiary statements.
Shouldn't senators align with their constituents?
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/08/bernie-backers-attacks-infuriate-democrats-242386Post edited by mrussel1 on0
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