Obamacare is a mess

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,313
    JC29856 said:
    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1A92JG

    dominoes

    Molina Healthcare (MOH.N), a health insurer that specializes in the Obamacare and Medicaid healthcare programs for low-income and poor people, plans to cut about 1,400 jobs in the next few months, according to an internal company memo reviewed by Reuters.

    Molina's decision comes after it reported a fourth-quarter loss related to individual plans created under former Democratic President Barack Obama's healthcare law, and then fired its Chief Executive Officer Mario Molina a few months later.

    It's okay, Trump has jobs waiting for them at Carrier, Ford and Boeing. And the republican plan will provide better care for less money. It's all great. Beautiful in fact. Brilliant.
     
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  • brianlux
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1A92JG

    dominoes

    Molina Healthcare (MOH.N), a health insurer that specializes in the Obamacare and Medicaid healthcare programs for low-income and poor people, plans to cut about 1,400 jobs in the next few months, according to an internal company memo reviewed by Reuters.

    Molina's decision comes after it reported a fourth-quarter loss related to individual plans created under former Democratic President Barack Obama's healthcare law, and then fired its Chief Executive Officer Mario Molina a few months later.

    It's okay, Trump has jobs waiting for them at Carrier, Ford and Boeing. And the republican plan will provide better care for less money. It's all great. Beautiful in fact. Brilliant.
     
    So glad to hear he really is going to make America great again after all!  :joy::joker::murica::rock_on:

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    Chuck "6 ways to Sunday" Schumer on floor crying about how powerless he and his party is to stop GOP repeal.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,313
    JC29856 said:
    Chuck "6 ways to Sunday" Schumer on floor crying about how powerless he and his party is to stop GOP repeal.

    Not as hard as Trump's supporters will be crying when they realize their shit out of luck for health insurance because there isn't anything to replace it. Get ready to see a spike in bankruptcies and foreclosures.
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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    edited July 2017

    Senate votes to move forward on considering health care

    The Senate voted Tuesday to move forward with a debate on health care reform, even though it was not clear what measure the body would be considering.

    Susan Collins from Maine and Lisa Murkowski from Alaska were the only two Republican senators who voted no on the motion to proceed.

    Before the voting began, protesters chanted "Kill the bill" and "Shame! Shame!"

    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who was diagnosed with brain cancer last week, returned to the Senate floor to vote in favor of moving the debate forward. His appearance was met with a standing ovation.

    The GOP in the Senate has been dealt several setbacks, including not having enough votes for its original plan to repeal and replace aspects of Obamacare as well as a straight repeal, but President Trump has pushed for the body to make progress.


  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    JC29856 said:
    Chuck "6 ways to Sunday" Schumer on floor crying about how powerless he and his party is to stop GOP repeal.
    You sound happy, I thought you were a big single payer lefty?
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    rgambs said:
    JC29856 said:
    Chuck "6 ways to Sunday" Schumer on floor crying about how powerless he and his party is to stop GOP repeal.
    You sound happy, I thought you were a big single payer lefty?
    Someone went so far left they came out on the far right side. Happens all the time.
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    stuckinline said:

    Senate votes to move forward on considering health care

    The Senate voted Tuesday to move forward with a debate on health care reform, even though it was not clear what measure the body would be considering.

    Susan Collins from Maine and Lisa Murkowski from Alaska were the only two Republican senators who voted no on the motion to proceed.

    Before the voting began, protesters chanted "Kill the bill" and "Shame! Shame!"

    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who was diagnosed with brain cancer last week, returned to the Senate floor to vote in favor of moving the debate forward. His appearance was met with a standing ovation.

    The GOP in the Senate has been dealt several setbacks, including not having enough votes for its original plan to repeal and replace aspects of Obamacare as well as a straight repeal, but President Trump has pushed for the body to make progress.


    Luckily the Senate's health care plan is quite good so McCain will be fine.

    Screw his constituents though
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    if you had too much to eat or drink, read the first 2 paragraphs and you will get relief.

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/25/politics/john-mccain-floor-speech/index.html
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    good explanation on what happens next and what you can do to kill the bill

    https://www.indivisibleguide.com/resource/what-happens-now-on-trumpcare/
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    JC29856 said:
    if you had too much to eat or drink, read the first 2 paragraphs and you will get relief.

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/25/politics/john-mccain-floor-speech/index.html
    And then tonight he votes for the bill tonight...

    is there a bigger fraud in American politics?
  • dignin
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Cliffy6745 said:
    JC29856 said:
    if you had too much to eat or drink, read the first 2 paragraphs and you will get relief.

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/25/politics/john-mccain-floor-speech/index.html
    And then tonight he votes for the bill tonight...

    is there a bigger fraud in American politics?
    can't imagine what was negotiated for his vote? immediate war with Iran? maybe just maybe he will live to see another war. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    John McCain Is the Perfect American Lie


    Today, Senate Republicans moved one step closer to dismantling Obamacare, potentially leaving millions of people uninsured, jacking up their premiums, and letting insurance companies cover only what they feel like covering. John McCain voted for that bill because of course he did. He has always been a big talker, but when it comes to the actual meat-and-potatoes voting process, he falls in line. He didn’t do the right thing. He didn’t even come within 500 yards of doing the right thing. For the past two decades, he has never done the right thing. He’s a fraud. Alex Pareene had him nailed ages ago. In fact, it’s “nice” Republicans like McCain who provide cover for evil swine like Mitch McConnell, allowing them to gut the American security net and fuck over anyone who doesn’t live behind an iron gate.

    But that didn’t stop McCain from having the gall—the unmitigated, repulsive GALL—to stand up in front of the Senate today and put on his Maverick jammies and deliver a sermon bashing the very non-legislation that, only minutes earlier, he had flown cross-country to help will into being:


    http://www.gq.com/story/john-mccain-is-the-perfect-american-lie
  • ponytd
    ponytd Nashville Posts: 671
    Cliffy6745 said:
    JC29856 said:
    if you had too much to eat or drink, read the first 2 paragraphs and you will get relief.

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/25/politics/john-mccain-floor-speech/index.html
    And then tonight he votes for the bill tonight...

    is there a bigger fraud in American politics?
    They didn't vote on the bill. They voted on moving forward to debate both bills (the House version and Senate version) and to open the floor to other amendments and changes to put into those bills from both sides. The AHCA is still in effect. Nobody lost their health insurance last night. Will they come up with something better? I don't know. My guess is, nothing gets voted on and Obamacare will still be here the beginning of next year.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    This thread is where this article belongs (not another one that was closed). Not good!
    http://reverepress.com/politics/heres-much-healthcare-industry-paid-john-mccain-take-away-healthcare/


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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    ponytd said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    JC29856 said:
    if you had too much to eat or drink, read the first 2 paragraphs and you will get relief.

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/25/politics/john-mccain-floor-speech/index.html
    And then tonight he votes for the bill tonight...

    is there a bigger fraud in American politics?
    They didn't vote on the bill. They voted on moving forward to debate both bills (the House version and Senate version) and to open the floor to other amendments and changes to put into those bills from both sides. The AHCA is still in effect. Nobody lost their health insurance last night. Will they come up with something better? I don't know. My guess is, nothing gets voted on and Obamacare will still be here the beginning of next year.
    while I usually disagree with McCain, what he did yesterday was smart.  at the same time he voted to move forward with debating the bills, he also ripped into the bill and actually said that he would vote no to the current bill. 

    personally, i think the AHCA is going to be around a very long time unless the R get more of a majority in both house and senate so hopefully, liberal come out in masses to vote. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    What I'm finding weird is how the media is declaring this a "big win" for Trump.... I'm assuming that means anything short of total failure or disaster is a big win for him?
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    PJ_Soul said:
    What I'm finding weird is how the media is declaring this a "big win" for Trump.... I'm assuming that means anything short of total failure or disaster is a big win for him?
    well it is the 1st time he has gotten what he wanted so right there it is win for him.  I wonder how long it will take him to throw thi sunder the bus like the house bill. 
  • ponytd
    ponytd Nashville Posts: 671

    PJ_Soul said:
    What I'm finding weird is how the media is declaring this a "big win" for Trump.... I'm assuming that means anything short of total failure or disaster is a big win for him?
    Fake news!
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