The Worst Movie Ever?

ed243421 said:

tbergs said:

dankind said:

tbergs said:

No Coder said:

dankind said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

I never liked it. Or any film by David Fincher, for that matter. 

To be fair, I want to like Zodiac. At least there's no gimmick to it, and I recognize Fincher's talent. It's just too damn obvious for my taste, though. No subtlety or nuance whatsoever. Kind of Oliver Stone-y.

Christopher Nolan is another one I don't really like. Also gimmicky, and unoriginal with his gimmicks. The backward Seinfeld  episode did it first and much better. Unlike Fincher, I do still give his films a chance. They still look great despite their lame attempts at being cerebral. The only Nolan film I've actually enjoyed so far was the Batman one with Hardy as Bane. I missed Interstellar, but I hear that one is good. 

I like most of Fincher's work and loved Fight Club, but must admit to not having watched it in over 10 years, so not sure what I'd think now, but still think I would enjoy it - certainly wouldn't dislike it. I LOVED The Game and Se7en is a favourite of mine.

As for Nolan, I think he is a genius! Memento, Inception and Interstellar are all time great movies and his Batman Trillogy are the best Super hero movies by a long way for me - all of coarse in my opinion. Can't wait to see Dunkirk

Agreed. Momento was amazing and something no one had done. I remember seeing it in an art house theater and being blown away. Then there was Inception. Nolan just rewrites the rules and isn't rehashing old scripts and ideas.

Watching a Fincher film to me is like being hit across the face with a brick.

As for Memento, again, nothing original about it--Seinfeld did it first. And better. I will give Nolan credit for something, though: By sucking all the joy out of Batman and making those films bubblegum-pop thinkpieces for mindless millennials, the whiff of something posing as cerebral somehow got chicks to show up at the cinema for a comic book movie. That in itself was a huge win for nerds everywhere. I can't say the same for Burton's more whimsical Batman flicks.

Well, I'm not a millennial, but I liked the more serious take on Batman. I think parts of the original movie are a bit cheesy and I prefer Burton's darker take in Batman Returns. So you really think Nolan's Batman got chicks to show up at the cinema? Never saw any of those films appealing to millennials and chicks. Seemed like the opposite of anything Nolan directs.

As for Memento, why does it matter so much that Seinfeld did it "first"? It's not even comparable. A comedy show in a 22 minute segment and a 2 hour movie production. Also, if we're splitting hairs, Nolan's brother actually pitched the plot and wrote the original script in '96, well before the Seinfeld episode aired. It just takes longer with movies. And honestly the budget wasn't that much different! 

Memento and that Seinfeld episode were inspired by a play titled "betrayal", later made into a movie in 1983

tbergs said:

dankind said:

tbergs said:

No Coder said:

dankind said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Fight Club.

Let's be fuckin real. You're not a 15 year old alpha male anymore. Fight Club was never as god damn epic as you made it out to be.

I never liked it. Or any film by David Fincher, for that matter. 

To be fair, I want to like Zodiac. At least there's no gimmick to it, and I recognize Fincher's talent. It's just too damn obvious for my taste, though. No subtlety or nuance whatsoever. Kind of Oliver Stone-y.

Christopher Nolan is another one I don't really like. Also gimmicky, and unoriginal with his gimmicks. The backward Seinfeld  episode did it first and much better. Unlike Fincher, I do still give his films a chance. They still look great despite their lame attempts at being cerebral. The only Nolan film I've actually enjoyed so far was the Batman one with Hardy as Bane. I missed Interstellar, but I hear that one is good. 

I like most of Fincher's work and loved Fight Club, but must admit to not having watched it in over 10 years, so not sure what I'd think now, but still think I would enjoy it - certainly wouldn't dislike it. I LOVED The Game and Se7en is a favourite of mine.

As for Nolan, I think he is a genius! Memento, Inception and Interstellar are all time great movies and his Batman Trillogy are the best Super hero movies by a long way for me - all of coarse in my opinion. Can't wait to see Dunkirk

Agreed. Momento was amazing and something no one had done. I remember seeing it in an art house theater and being blown away. Then there was Inception. Nolan just rewrites the rules and isn't rehashing old scripts and ideas.

Watching a Fincher film to me is like being hit across the face with a brick.

As for Memento, again, nothing original about it--Seinfeld did it first. And better. I will give Nolan credit for something, though: By sucking all the joy out of Batman and making those films bubblegum-pop thinkpieces for mindless millennials, the whiff of something posing as cerebral somehow got chicks to show up at the cinema for a comic book movie. That in itself was a huge win for nerds everywhere. I can't say the same for Burton's more whimsical Batman flicks.

Well, I'm not a millennial, but I liked the more serious take on Batman. I think parts of the original movie are a bit cheesy and I prefer Burton's darker take in Batman Returns. So you really think Nolan's Batman got chicks to show up at the cinema? Never saw any of those films appealing to millennials and chicks. Seemed like the opposite of anything Nolan directs.

As for Memento, why does it matter so much that Seinfeld did it "first"? It's not even comparable. A comedy show in a 22 minute segment and a 2 hour movie production. Also, if we're splitting hairs, Nolan's brother actually pitched the plot and wrote the original script in '96, well before the Seinfeld episode aired. It just takes longer with movies. And honestly the budget wasn't that much different! 

I'd never seen anything like Memento when I first saw it on release and thought the acting was brilliant. I love Seinfeld, but never saw a link between the 2 due to their differences in delivery. But I didn't think about it too much either

I love the dark tones in his movies and can't think of a movie he has done that I haven't thoroughly enjoyed. What he did with the Batman movies, was perfect for me, because I have trouble enjoying most of the super hero movies due to their lack of story line and reliance on wrecking cities.

HesCalledDyer said:

I've never understood how anyone could've been surprised at the end of The Sixth Sense.

tempo_n_groove said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I've never understood how anyone could've been surprised at the end of The Sixth Sense.

I was.  I get entrenched in a movie.  I don't look for metaphors, I don't look for symbolism.  I just enjoy it...

That being said I hated the new Charlie and The Chocolate Factory.  What a steamy pile that was.  I tried to like it and couldn't...

I just thought it was pretty obvious from the opening scene.  I actually didn't catch much of the symbolism until I watched the extras & commentary on the DVD. That made me appreciate the film a bit more.

I am usually able to totally stay in the moment with a movie. Where it may or may not go or how it will end literally never crosses my mind one way or the other when I'm watching a good film (I will start thinking about it if it's a bad film because I'm bored or appalled enough for my mind to wander). So when I watched the Sixth Sense my brain didn't even question what may have been obvious - I just watched it moment to moment, so watching it that way I never predicted the ending. I have found, though, that I'm in a very small minority there. Most people I've known don't watch movies quite that way, and they tend to predict what is going to happen next or whatever. I just don't go there.

You are my kind of woman Soul!  Glad that there is someone else out there that enjoys it for what it is!

HughFreakingDillon said:

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I've never understood how anyone could've been surprised at the end of The Sixth Sense.

I was.  I get entrenched in a movie.  I don't look for metaphors, I don't look for symbolism.  I just enjoy it...

That being said I hated the new Charlie and The Chocolate Factory.  What a steamy pile that was.  I tried to like it and couldn't...

I just thought it was pretty obvious from the opening scene.  I actually didn't catch much of the symbolism until I watched the extras & commentary on the DVD. That made me appreciate the film a bit more.

I am usually able to totally stay in the moment with a movie. Where it may or may not go or how it will end literally never crosses my mind one way or the other when I'm watching a good film (I will start thinking about it if it's a bad film because I'm bored or appalled enough for my mind to wander). So when I watched the Sixth Sense my brain didn't even question what may have been obvious - I just watched it moment to moment, so watching it that way I never predicted the ending. I have found, though, that I'm in a very small minority there. Most people I've known don't watch movies quite that way, and they tend to predict what is going to happen next or whatever. I just don't go there.

You are my kind of woman Soul!  Glad that there is someone else out there that enjoys it for what it is!

Y'all have spent way too much time discussing one of the shittiest films of the past 20 years. 

hm. I thought the Sixth Sense was fucking brilliant. I'm usually pretty good at predicting outcomes of movies, but that one, ZERO idea. ZERO. I guess, like PJ Soul, I wasn't expecting any kind of twist. I didn't know who shmalamadingdong was. I just heard it was a great movie. and it was.