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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Follow the money!

    In all, donors from the health services sector and major health insurers gave more than $16 million to Democratic candidatesand the California Democratic Partyin the 2014 election cycle -- almost double what donors from those industries gave in the 2006 election, according to data from the National Institute on Money In State Politics. Donors from those sectors collectively donated more than $3 million to Brown and Rendon since 2010.

    In light of that history, longtime single-payer proponents argue that this is a watershed moment for Democrats in advance of the 2018 election. They assert that the California fight will demonstrate whether or not Democrats in the Trump era are willing to use the power they still retain at the state level to defy their major corporate donors and enact the policies they tell voters they support.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/california-health-care-fight-may-show-democratic-party-future-trump-era-2562684?amp=1

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    Follow the money!

    In all, donors from the health services sector and major health insurers gave more than $16 million to Democratic candidatesand the California Democratic Partyin the 2014 election cycle -- almost double what donors from those industries gave in the 2006 election, according to data from the National Institute on Money In State Politics. Donors from those sectors collectively donated more than $3 million to Brown and Rendon since 2010.

    In light of that history, longtime single-payer proponents argue that this is a watershed moment for Democrats in advance of the 2018 election. They assert that the California fight will demonstrate whether or not Democrats in the Trump era are willing to use the power they still retain at the state level to defy their major corporate donors and enact the policies they tell voters they support.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/california-health-care-fight-may-show-democratic-party-future-trump-era-2562684?amp=1

    Anything illegal about that money? If not, why would anyone follow it? Citizens United.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    Follow the money!

    In all, donors from the health services sector and major health insurers gave more than $16 million to Democratic candidatesand the California Democratic Partyin the 2014 election cycle -- almost double what donors from those industries gave in the 2006 election, according to data from the National Institute on Money In State Politics. Donors from those sectors collectively donated more than $3 million to Brown and Rendon since 2010.

    In light of that history, longtime single-payer proponents argue that this is a watershed moment for Democrats in advance of the 2018 election. They assert that the California fight will demonstrate whether or not Democrats in the Trump era are willing to use the power they still retain at the state level to defy their major corporate donors and enact the policies they tell voters they support.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/california-health-care-fight-may-show-democratic-party-future-trump-era-2562684?amp=1

    Anything illegal about that money? If not, why would anyone follow it? Citizens United.
    nothing illegal, I'm simply following the money. question is, other than the increases in campaign contributions, what changed the Democratic leadership minds about single payer?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Newsflash... campaign contributions influence politicians.. BREAKING! 

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    here is the positionless platformless pipeline loving candidate that democrats are championing to unseat Paul Ryan. I introduce..... iron stache

    http://observer.com/2017/07/randy-bryce-cathy-myers-paul-ryan/amp/

    ps: ignore the true progressive Democrat in the race
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    JC29856 said:
    here is the positionless platformless pipeline loving candidate that democrats are championing to unseat Paul Ryan. I introduce..... iron stache

    http://observer.com/2017/07/randy-bryce-cathy-myers-paul-ryan/amp/

    ps: ignore the true progressive Democrat in the race
    Whatever dude.  You're not a democrat and not a progressive or a liberal.  Your posts on this page are intended to sow discontent and fracture for the six people that read it.  Go to Reddit or 4Chan and take up the cause there.  
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Keith Ellison met his own resistance at a summer resistance rally.

    Less than five minutes into DNC Deputy Chair Keith Ellison’s introductory remarks, a group of people stood up and chanted vehemently, “Single payer now!” They unfurled a banner across an entire pew, and heckled the speakers so freely that an older woman made the sign of the cross, as if warding off their revolutionary spirits, and said, “Shame on you.” Ellison’s remarks about party unification were nearly inaudible because two attendees were standing and screaming at each other.


  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    JC29856 said:
    Keith Ellison met his own resistance at a summer resistance rally.

    Less than five minutes into DNC Deputy Chair Keith Ellison’s introductory remarks, a group of people stood up and chanted vehemently, “Single payer now!” They unfurled a banner across an entire pew, and heckled the speakers so freely that an older woman made the sign of the cross, as if warding off their revolutionary spirits, and said, “Shame on you.” Ellison’s remarks about party unification were nearly inaudible because two attendees were standing and screaming at each other.


    These people are expecting an impotent party to achieve something big?  Baby steps.  First the party has to get back into relevance...which is a ways off.
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  • JC29856
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    OnWis97 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Keith Ellison met his own resistance at a summer resistance rally.

    Less than five minutes into DNC Deputy Chair Keith Ellison’s introductory remarks, a group of people stood up and chanted vehemently, “Single payer now!” They unfurled a banner across an entire pew, and heckled the speakers so freely that an older woman made the sign of the cross, as if warding off their revolutionary spirits, and said, “Shame on you.” Ellison’s remarks about party unification were nearly inaudible because two attendees were standing and screaming at each other.


    These people are expecting an impotent party to achieve something big?  Baby steps.  First the party has to get back into relevance...which is a ways off.
    Agree, first thou a leader of the party must emerge or leaders. recently the King of Crooked Terry McAuliffe was asked who are the leaders in the Dem party and he had no answers.
    Talking about devils you don't know, check out McAuliffe and his electric car shenanigans.

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    wonder if any Hamiltonians asked Harris about " "the decision her office made" not prosecuting Mnuchin, one West?

    http://pagesix.com/2017/07/15/kamala-harris-meets-with-democratic-elite-in-hamptons/amp/
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Democrats would rather scream Russia Russia Russia and continually lose to Republicans.

    House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley hesitated when asked about his party’s core message to voters.

    “That message is being worked on,” the New York congressman said in an interview this past week. “We’re doing everything we can to simplify it, but at the same time provide the meat behind it as well. So that’s coming together now.”

    https://apnews.com/5e40c99aeb7c410ab3890e6ad4303e3c

  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited July 2017
    JC29856 said:

    Democrats would rather scream Russia Russia Russia and continually lose to Republicans.

    House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley hesitated when asked about his party’s core message to voters.

    “That message is being worked on,” the New York congressman said in an interview this past week. “We’re doing everything we can to simplify it, but at the same time provide the meat behind it as well. So that’s coming together now.”

    https://apnews.com/5e40c99aeb7c410ab3890e6ad4303e3c

    Isn't it being patriotic to keep the light on the Russia-isue? So why wouldn't they keep doing that?

    And shouldn't an adult person understand that the one thing doesn't take away from working on the other? 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    Democrats would rather scream Russia Russia Russia and continually lose to Republicans.

    House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley hesitated when asked about his party’s core message to voters.

    “That message is being worked on,” the New York congressman said in an interview this past week. “We’re doing everything we can to simplify it, but at the same time provide the meat behind it as well. So that’s coming together now.”

    https://apnews.com/5e40c99aeb7c410ab3890e6ad4303e3c

    Isn't it being patriotic to keep the light on the Russia-isue? So why wouldn't they keep doing that?

    And shouldn't an adult person understand that the one thing doesn't take away from working on the other? 
    here is what I think a rational adult would think, there is an investigation into Russia involvement in the US elections, let it play out. screaming Russia Russia Russia everyday all day has zero (should have) effect on the outcome of that investigation.

    the Democratic party spent more than a year propping up a terrible wobbly candidate nobody liked, rigged the primary, cheated voters, colluded with the media and lost a presidential election to a celebrity game show host bafoon eight months ago, won't acknowledge it, let alone admit it and have no leaders and no message. After eight months absent leaders and a clear message, I as an adult am convinced one is certainly taking away from the other.
    having no message hasn't seemed to work for Hilliary or the special elections but go ahead keep working on it.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:

    Democrats would rather scream Russia Russia Russia and continually lose to Republicans.

    House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley hesitated when asked about his party’s core message to voters.

    “That message is being worked on,” the New York congressman said in an interview this past week. “We’re doing everything we can to simplify it, but at the same time provide the meat behind it as well. So that’s coming together now.”

    https://apnews.com/5e40c99aeb7c410ab3890e6ad4303e3c

    Isn't it being patriotic to keep the light on the Russia-isue? So why wouldn't they keep doing that?

    And shouldn't an adult person understand that the one thing doesn't take away from working on the other? 
    here is what I think a rational adult would think, there is an investigation into Russia involvement in the US elections, let it play out. screaming Russia Russia Russia everyday all day has zero (should have) effect on the outcome of that investigation.

    the Democratic party spent more than a year propping up a terrible wobbly candidate nobody liked, rigged the primary, cheated voters, colluded with the media and lost a presidential election to a celebrity game show host bafoon eight months ago, won't acknowledge it, let alone admit it and have no leaders and no message. After eight months absent leaders and a clear message, I as an adult am convinced one is certainly taking away from the other.
    having no message hasn't seemed to work for Hilliary or the special elections but go ahead keep working on it.
    16 months before the mid-term is an eternity. Three and a half years to a presidential election is and eon. There will be a message and there will be a platform. No reason to put it out now solely for the same amount of time for it to be attacked. Plus, in that amount of time, more crusty old white people looking to the past will have moved on and more of Trump's promises will have not materialized. You must think every losing opposition party has their platform and message all figured out less than a year after losing?
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  • JC29856
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    the Democratic party has been around for 190 years, recently they lost 1000 seats and a slam dunk presidential election that only the one abomination of a candidate they dishonestly and unfairly anointed could lose.
    I don't think it's too much to ask for a core message at this point.
    who thinks the democrats priorities are aligned with the voting public? middle class? poor? minorities?
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    JC29856 said:

    Democrats would rather scream Russia Russia Russia and continually lose to Republicans.

    House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley hesitated when asked about his party’s core message to voters.

    “That message is being worked on,” the New York congressman said in an interview this past week. “We’re doing everything we can to simplify it, but at the same time provide the meat behind it as well. So that’s coming together now.”

    https://apnews.com/5e40c99aeb7c410ab3890e6ad4303e3c

    Yep.  And the Democrats are going to get absolutely smacked around in 2018.  Maybe that'll wake us up to the fact that we do have a popular (polarizing, but popular) president.

    #onepartysystem

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  • JC29856
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    edited July 2017
    JC29856 said:
    wonder if any Hamiltonians asked Harris about " "the decision her office made" not prosecuting Mnuchin, one West?

    http://pagesix.com/2017/07/15/kamala-harris-meets-with-democratic-elite-in-hamptons/amp/
    more on the story...
    I'm pretty certain that every person mentioned in this article is a horrible person, with the Hungarian American leading the way in horribleness

    http://observer.com/2017/07/donors-george-soros-steve-mnuchin-kamala-harris/amp/
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    OnWis97 said:
    JC29856 said:

    Democrats would rather scream Russia Russia Russia and continually lose to Republicans.

    House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley hesitated when asked about his party’s core message to voters.

    “That message is being worked on,” the New York congressman said in an interview this past week. “We’re doing everything we can to simplify it, but at the same time provide the meat behind it as well. So that’s coming together now.”

    https://apnews.com/5e40c99aeb7c410ab3890e6ad4303e3c

    Yep.  And the Democrats are going to get absolutely smacked around in 2018.  Maybe that'll wake us up to the fact that we do have a popular (polarizing, but popular) president.

    #onepartysystem

    Why do you think he's popular?  He is 30 some % approval.  He lost the popular vote by 3MM.  His victory was by mere basis points in three key states.  He hasn't actually accomplished anything of note.  There isn't much empirical evidence to say he's popular.  
  • mrussel1
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    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    wonder if any Hamiltonians asked Harris about " "the decision her office made" not prosecuting Mnuchin, one West?

    http://pagesix.com/2017/07/15/kamala-harris-meets-with-democratic-elite-in-hamptons/amp/
    more on the story...
    I'm pretty certain that every person mentioned in this article is a horrible person, with the Hungarian American leading the way in horribleness

    http://observer.com/2017/07/donors-george-soros-steve-mnuchin-kamala-harris/amp/
    Yes Kamala Harris... Liberal, woman, minority, Californian, prosecutor, Senator, Trump antagonizer... horrible person.  Way to prove once more that you're really a progressive.  We'll put this as the icing.  
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    JC29856 said:

    Democrats would rather scream Russia Russia Russia and continually lose to Republicans.

    House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley hesitated when asked about his party’s core message to voters.

    “That message is being worked on,” the New York congressman said in an interview this past week. “We’re doing everything we can to simplify it, but at the same time provide the meat behind it as well. So that’s coming together now.”

    https://apnews.com/5e40c99aeb7c410ab3890e6ad4303e3c

    Yep.  And the Democrats are going to get absolutely smacked around in 2018.  Maybe that'll wake us up to the fact that we do have a popular (polarizing, but popular) president.

    #onepartysystem

    Why do you think he's popular?  He is 30 some % approval.  He lost the popular vote by 3MM.  His victory was by mere basis points in three key states.  He hasn't actually accomplished anything of note.  There isn't much empirical evidence to say he's popular.  
    The left still believes polls...

    I think his supporters know that he's a jackass.  And they'll tell a pollster they don't like what he's doing.  Then they'll vote for him.  This is roughly why we were so surprised last fall.  While he has a loud and proud hard core base, he has a silent army of lovers as well. Donald Trump is President and the American People are happy about it...and you're talking to one of the few people on here that saw his win coming.

    2018's silver lining is going to be that it'll be a wake up call.  Of course, I'm not sure what the impotent Democratic Party will do about it. It's "their" country now.
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