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Try this new website called google.Halifax2TheMax said:
Got a link? Or are you adding 2008 primary campaign and her 2016 run?unsung said:Clinton spent over a billion dollars to gain a job that wouldn't pay a fraction of that.
I can't support that.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/
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unsung said:
Try this new website called google.Halifax2TheMax said:
Got a link? Or are you adding 2008 primary campaign and her 2016 run?unsung said:Clinton spent over a billion dollars to gain a job that wouldn't pay a fraction of that.
I can't support that.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/
question, if trump had to buy the airtime he received , what would his toral spending have been on top of what bloomberg reported in your link?
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You have a google machine? Can you take it to Indianer with you?unsung said:
Try this new website called google.Halifax2TheMax said:
Got a link? Or are you adding 2008 primary campaign and her 2016 run?unsung said:Clinton spent over a billion dollars to gain a job that wouldn't pay a fraction of that.
I can't support that.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/
Raising a billion + and stating a billion + was spent does not equate to Hillary spent a billion. Some of that money goes to down ticket candidates on the dem side. My google machine found 600 million + spent by Hillary, from a Libertarian news source, no less. Enjoy your Shangra La of Indianer.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487I will enjoy leaving this cesspool.0
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What took you so long?unsung said:I will enjoy leaving this cesspool.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Not really any of your business.
But, I used to be a Democrat.Post edited by unsung on0 -
What civil war? Did I miss something?gimmesometruth27 said:
whomever wins the civil war.PJPOWER said:
And who would you put in charge of re-writing the constitution? The current administration?CM189191 said:unsung said:Eliminate the level of support for entry for a Presidential debate. I bet other options would emerge.
The law had two parts:
"the double ballot majority system and proportional representation tend to favor multipartism"
You would have to change more than just the threshold for entry. You would have to change the way votes are counted and the way Congress is structured.
In other words, re-write the Constitution.0 -
no but there will be one at some point. if things keep going as they are. it's been 150+ years since the last one. it has been longer since that war than the age of the country at the time of the war. maybe not a civil war, but people will attempt a violent overthrow of the government. maybe not in the next 100 years, but the foundation and motivation for it is there. that anger is generational. when the government isn't working for them, and poverty is so bad, sometimes rebellion is a better option. i'm not advocating for it, just saying if discourse is this bad now, imagine it in 10 years, 30 years, 50 years.PJPOWER said:
What civil war? Did I miss something?gimmesometruth27 said:
whomever wins the civil war.PJPOWER said:
And who would you put in charge of re-writing the constitution? The current administration?CM189191 said:unsung said:Eliminate the level of support for entry for a Presidential debate. I bet other options would emerge.
The law had two parts:
"the double ballot majority system and proportional representation tend to favor multipartism"
You would have to change more than just the threshold for entry. You would have to change the way votes are counted and the way Congress is structured.
In other words, re-write the Constitution."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
I always find it ironic when liberal leaning people talk about the government not working for them and then advocate for more government power. When the left has power, the right feels government isn't working for them and vise versa. I actually imagine a better world in 50 years due to medical advances and the lack of baby boomers running things, but that's just me. In general, quality of life for most Americans is WAY better today than it was even 30 years ago. If you spend 12 hours a day watching all of the negative headlines that the media regurgitates, you might have a different perspective leaning towards cynicism. I think that the odds of us getting into some kind of world war again are way more likely than a legitimate civil war.gimmesometruth27 said:
no but there will be one at some point. if things keep going as they are. it's been 150+ years since the last one. it has been longer since that war than the age of the country at the time of the war. maybe not a civil war, but people will attempt a violent overthrow of the government. maybe not in the next 100 years, but the foundation and motivation for it is there. that anger is generational. when the government isn't working for them, and poverty is so bad, sometimes rebellion is a better option. i'm not advocating for it, just saying if discourse is this bad now, imagine it in 10 years, 30 years, 50 years.PJPOWER said:
What civil war? Did I miss something?gimmesometruth27 said:
whomever wins the civil war.PJPOWER said:
And who would you put in charge of re-writing the constitution? The current administration?CM189191 said:unsung said:Eliminate the level of support for entry for a Presidential debate. I bet other options would emerge.
The law had two parts:
"the double ballot majority system and proportional representation tend to favor multipartism"
You would have to change more than just the threshold for entry. You would have to change the way votes are counted and the way Congress is structured.
In other words, re-write the Constitution.0 -
Bernie sanders was the trump of the left. Play off fears of people and promis unreachable false hopes. Equally as shitty.0
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government-run does not equal government power. it is a long standing misconception that the left like big government. we don't. or I don't. just necessary government. I just prefer programs being run by our elected officials so everyone has access to them and to keep them at a not-for-profit cost base.PJPOWER said:
I always find it ironic when liberal leaning people talk about the government not working for them and then advocate for more government power. When the left has power, the right feels government isn't working for them and vise versa. I actually imagine a better world in 50 years due to medical advances and the lack of baby boomers running things, but that's just me. In general, quality of life for most Americans is WAY better today than it was even 30 years ago. If you spend 12 hours a day watching all of the negative headlines that the media regurgitates, you might have a different perspective leaning towards cynicism. I think that the odds of us getting into some kind of world war again are way more likely than a legitimate civil war.gimmesometruth27 said:
no but there will be one at some point. if things keep going as they are. it's been 150+ years since the last one. it has been longer since that war than the age of the country at the time of the war. maybe not a civil war, but people will attempt a violent overthrow of the government. maybe not in the next 100 years, but the foundation and motivation for it is there. that anger is generational. when the government isn't working for them, and poverty is so bad, sometimes rebellion is a better option. i'm not advocating for it, just saying if discourse is this bad now, imagine it in 10 years, 30 years, 50 years.PJPOWER said:
What civil war? Did I miss something?gimmesometruth27 said:
whomever wins the civil war.PJPOWER said:
And who would you put in charge of re-writing the constitution? The current administration?CM189191 said:unsung said:Eliminate the level of support for entry for a Presidential debate. I bet other options would emerge.
The law had two parts:
"the double ballot majority system and proportional representation tend to favor multipartism"
You would have to change more than just the threshold for entry. You would have to change the way votes are counted and the way Congress is structured.
In other words, re-write the Constitution.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Decent troll postriley540 said:Bernie sanders was the trump of the left. Play off fears of people and promis unreachable false hopes. Equally as shitty.0 -
And just as bad as golf no doubt, that commie freak loser!riley540 said:Bernie sanders was the trump of the left. Play off fears of people and promis unreachable false hopes. Equally as shitty.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
i don't know man. the government is supposed to work for all of the people. not just for your particular base. i agree that quality of life is better now, but that does not mean that there are less people in poverty now than there were then. the wealth discrepancy is worse now, and more wealth is in the hands of fewer people now, so that is not a good thing. we will have better advances in medicine in 50 years, but with for profit insurance who is going to pay for them? if trumpcare goes through, less people will be able to afford insurance and less will have medicaid, so their life expectancy will go down. we have great advances now that insurance companies will not pay for. we wanted to take some cadaver knee cartilage and transplant it into one of our patient's knees, a procedure that has shown great potential in the literature, and insurance denied it. they paid for an inferior procedure. i am not sure how this kid is gonna do, but we all feel that had he gotten the other surgery the prognosis for his knee would be better, but that is a different discussion.PJPOWER said:
I always find it ironic when liberal leaning people talk about the government not working for them and then advocate for more government power. When the left has power, the right feels government isn't working for them and vise versa. I actually imagine a better world in 50 years due to medical advances and the lack of baby boomers running things, but that's just me. In general, quality of life for most Americans is WAY better today than it was even 30 years ago. If you spend 12 hours a day watching all of the negative headlines that the media regurgitates, you might have a different perspective leaning towards cynicism. I think that the odds of us getting into some kind of world war again are way more likely than a legitimate civil war.gimmesometruth27 said:
no but there will be one at some point. if things keep going as they are. it's been 150+ years since the last one. it has been longer since that war than the age of the country at the time of the war. maybe not a civil war, but people will attempt a violent overthrow of the government. maybe not in the next 100 years, but the foundation and motivation for it is there. that anger is generational. when the government isn't working for them, and poverty is so bad, sometimes rebellion is a better option. i'm not advocating for it, just saying if discourse is this bad now, imagine it in 10 years, 30 years, 50 years.PJPOWER said:
What civil war? Did I miss something?gimmesometruth27 said:
whomever wins the civil war.PJPOWER said:
And who would you put in charge of re-writing the constitution? The current administration?CM189191 said:unsung said:Eliminate the level of support for entry for a Presidential debate. I bet other options would emerge.
The law had two parts:
"the double ballot majority system and proportional representation tend to favor multipartism"
You would have to change more than just the threshold for entry. You would have to change the way votes are counted and the way Congress is structured.
In other words, re-write the Constitution.
i agree about war. i think we are closer to a regional conflict now than we were a year ago. i wonder why that is..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
What would a regional civil war look like? This isn't 1865gimmesometruth27 said:
i don't know man. the government is supposed to work for all of the people. not just for your particular base. i agree that quality of life is better now, but that does not mean that there are less people in poverty now than there were then. the wealth discrepancy is worse now, and more wealth is in the hands of fewer people now, so that is not a good thing. we will have better advances in medicine in 50 years, but with for profit insurance who is going to pay for them? if trumpcare goes through, less people will be able to afford insurance and less will have medicaid, so their life expectancy will go down. we have great advances now that insurance companies will not pay for. we wanted to take some cadaver knee cartilage and transplant it into one of our patient's knees, a procedure that has shown great potential in the literature, and insurance denied it. they paid for an inferior procedure. i am not sure how this kid is gonna do, but we all feel that had he gotten the other surgery the prognosis for his knee would be better, but that is a different discussion.PJPOWER said:
I always find it ironic when liberal leaning people talk about the government not working for them and then advocate for more government power. When the left has power, the right feels government isn't working for them and vise versa. I actually imagine a better world in 50 years due to medical advances and the lack of baby boomers running things, but that's just me. In general, quality of life for most Americans is WAY better today than it was even 30 years ago. If you spend 12 hours a day watching all of the negative headlines that the media regurgitates, you might have a different perspective leaning towards cynicism. I think that the odds of us getting into some kind of world war again are way more likely than a legitimate civil war.gimmesometruth27 said:
no but there will be one at some point. if things keep going as they are. it's been 150+ years since the last one. it has been longer since that war than the age of the country at the time of the war. maybe not a civil war, but people will attempt a violent overthrow of the government. maybe not in the next 100 years, but the foundation and motivation for it is there. that anger is generational. when the government isn't working for them, and poverty is so bad, sometimes rebellion is a better option. i'm not advocating for it, just saying if discourse is this bad now, imagine it in 10 years, 30 years, 50 years.PJPOWER said:
What civil war? Did I miss something?gimmesometruth27 said:
whomever wins the civil war.PJPOWER said:
And who would you put in charge of re-writing the constitution? The current administration?CM189191 said:unsung said:Eliminate the level of support for entry for a Presidential debate. I bet other options would emerge.
The law had two parts:
"the double ballot majority system and proportional representation tend to favor multipartism"
You would have to change more than just the threshold for entry. You would have to change the way votes are counted and the way Congress is structured.
In other words, re-write the Constitution.
i agree about war. i think we are closer to a regional conflict now than we were a year ago. i wonder why that is...
The largest defense contractors are HQ in the NE.0 -
i'm talking about a regional war in the middle east. between us, russia, syria, and some arab countries.CM189191 said:
What would a regional civil war look like? This isn't 1865gimmesometruth27 said:
i don't know man. the government is supposed to work for all of the people. not just for your particular base. i agree that quality of life is better now, but that does not mean that there are less people in poverty now than there were then. the wealth discrepancy is worse now, and more wealth is in the hands of fewer people now, so that is not a good thing. we will have better advances in medicine in 50 years, but with for profit insurance who is going to pay for them? if trumpcare goes through, less people will be able to afford insurance and less will have medicaid, so their life expectancy will go down. we have great advances now that insurance companies will not pay for. we wanted to take some cadaver knee cartilage and transplant it into one of our patient's knees, a procedure that has shown great potential in the literature, and insurance denied it. they paid for an inferior procedure. i am not sure how this kid is gonna do, but we all feel that had he gotten the other surgery the prognosis for his knee would be better, but that is a different discussion.PJPOWER said:
I always find it ironic when liberal leaning people talk about the government not working for them and then advocate for more government power. When the left has power, the right feels government isn't working for them and vise versa. I actually imagine a better world in 50 years due to medical advances and the lack of baby boomers running things, but that's just me. In general, quality of life for most Americans is WAY better today than it was even 30 years ago. If you spend 12 hours a day watching all of the negative headlines that the media regurgitates, you might have a different perspective leaning towards cynicism. I think that the odds of us getting into some kind of world war again are way more likely than a legitimate civil war.gimmesometruth27 said:
no but there will be one at some point. if things keep going as they are. it's been 150+ years since the last one. it has been longer since that war than the age of the country at the time of the war. maybe not a civil war, but people will attempt a violent overthrow of the government. maybe not in the next 100 years, but the foundation and motivation for it is there. that anger is generational. when the government isn't working for them, and poverty is so bad, sometimes rebellion is a better option. i'm not advocating for it, just saying if discourse is this bad now, imagine it in 10 years, 30 years, 50 years.PJPOWER said:
What civil war? Did I miss something?gimmesometruth27 said:
whomever wins the civil war.PJPOWER said:
And who would you put in charge of re-writing the constitution? The current administration?CM189191 said:unsung said:Eliminate the level of support for entry for a Presidential debate. I bet other options would emerge.
The law had two parts:
"the double ballot majority system and proportional representation tend to favor multipartism"
You would have to change more than just the threshold for entry. You would have to change the way votes are counted and the way Congress is structured.
In other words, re-write the Constitution.
i agree about war. i think we are closer to a regional conflict now than we were a year ago. i wonder why that is...
The largest defense contractors are HQ in the NE."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
that makes more sense - i misread posts skimminggimmesometruth27 said:
i'm talking about a regional war in the middle east. between us, russia, syria, and some arab countries.CM189191 said:
What would a regional civil war look like? This isn't 1865gimmesometruth27 said:
i don't know man. the government is supposed to work for all of the people. not just for your particular base. i agree that quality of life is better now, but that does not mean that there are less people in poverty now than there were then. the wealth discrepancy is worse now, and more wealth is in the hands of fewer people now, so that is not a good thing. we will have better advances in medicine in 50 years, but with for profit insurance who is going to pay for them? if trumpcare goes through, less people will be able to afford insurance and less will have medicaid, so their life expectancy will go down. we have great advances now that insurance companies will not pay for. we wanted to take some cadaver knee cartilage and transplant it into one of our patient's knees, a procedure that has shown great potential in the literature, and insurance denied it. they paid for an inferior procedure. i am not sure how this kid is gonna do, but we all feel that had he gotten the other surgery the prognosis for his knee would be better, but that is a different discussion.PJPOWER said:
I always find it ironic when liberal leaning people talk about the government not working for them and then advocate for more government power. When the left has power, the right feels government isn't working for them and vise versa. I actually imagine a better world in 50 years due to medical advances and the lack of baby boomers running things, but that's just me. In general, quality of life for most Americans is WAY better today than it was even 30 years ago. If you spend 12 hours a day watching all of the negative headlines that the media regurgitates, you might have a different perspective leaning towards cynicism. I think that the odds of us getting into some kind of world war again are way more likely than a legitimate civil war.gimmesometruth27 said:
no but there will be one at some point. if things keep going as they are. it's been 150+ years since the last one. it has been longer since that war than the age of the country at the time of the war. maybe not a civil war, but people will attempt a violent overthrow of the government. maybe not in the next 100 years, but the foundation and motivation for it is there. that anger is generational. when the government isn't working for them, and poverty is so bad, sometimes rebellion is a better option. i'm not advocating for it, just saying if discourse is this bad now, imagine it in 10 years, 30 years, 50 years.PJPOWER said:
What civil war? Did I miss something?gimmesometruth27 said:
whomever wins the civil war.PJPOWER said:
And who would you put in charge of re-writing the constitution? The current administration?CM189191 said:unsung said:Eliminate the level of support for entry for a Presidential debate. I bet other options would emerge.
The law had two parts:
"the double ballot majority system and proportional representation tend to favor multipartism"
You would have to change more than just the threshold for entry. You would have to change the way votes are counted and the way Congress is structured.
In other words, re-write the Constitution.
i agree about war. i think we are closer to a regional conflict now than we were a year ago. i wonder why that is...
The largest defense contractors are HQ in the NE.0 -
I got so sick of having this argument when Bernie was running. The things he promised have been accomplished by tens of other countries, Trump was/is promising fairy tales. Additionally, Bernie has infinitely more experience that Trump. They are not equal in any aspect whatsoever. Period.Go Beavers said:
Decent troll postriley540 said:Bernie sanders was the trump of the left. Play off fears of people and promis unreachable false hopes. Equally as shitty.0 -
^^^
If you want to have a better conversation w/ the people you got sick of change it up a bit and discuss how the investigation on Sanders is going since he lawyered up.
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Already did that awhile back. If you're going to troll, that's cool, but at least try to keep up.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
If you want to have a better conversation w/ the people you got sick of change it up a bit and discuss how the investigation on Sanders is going since he lawyered up.0
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