i grew up in Anchorage Alaska. Now I, myself have shot guns and everything, but have no desire to ever own one, but I will say that I grew up around a lot of responsible gun owners. Growing up, I was taught how to safely handle a gun instead of being taught to fear a gun. I understand the outrage because bad people have easy access to guns, and it needs to stop. But I also full heatedly want to keep guns in the hands of my fellow Alaskans who's use them responsibly. I know all kinds of people who like to collect fire arms, people that like to go hunting, people that go to the range for fun, and even people who just like to have one in their car when they go out at night. All very good people. My girlfriend recently said she wants to get education on how to properly handle a gun and I fully support her. We can all co-exist. Not all gun owners are bad
True, people can co exist, but guns and people have been incompatible for a few hundred years already. Stricter gun laws will possibly lower incidents of shootings, but we're never going to end the problem until one of us ceases to exist. All of our efforts are merely bandaids on an already severed head and there's lots of blood to soak up these days.
I just fear that if guns are harder to get, then only the out laws are going to have guns. Might as well just keep the good people armed at this point.
Depends on what you mean by "harder to get."
I find it absolutely outrageous that any person in this country who wants to operate a motor vehicle has to go through a basic training class, a written test, be placed on a provisional period, pass another written test, and a physical driving test to do so and no one bats an eye. But mention you want to do the same type of process with guns and oh my lord it's the end of the free fucking world.
Tons of people are killed each year in cars. You have to be 18 to buy a gun. Driving and owning a car is not a constitutionally protected right.
We've been over this a lot in this thread. Driving cars and the regulations that apply are not comparable to gun ownership in this country.
And apparently you're still missing the point. When did I say anything that infringed upon the 2nd Amendment rights of the people? I didn't. Nothing I said would keep anyone who legally wanted to own a gun from owning a gun. You wouldn't want someone driving a car who isn't trained properly on how to drive and who doesn't understand the rules of the road. Just asking for better regulations and licensing. The right is so hell-bent on notions of a "strong vetting process" except for when it comes to muh gunz.
i grew up in Anchorage Alaska. Now I, myself have shot guns and everything, but have no desire to ever own one, but I will say that I grew up around a lot of responsible gun owners. Growing up, I was taught how to safely handle a gun instead of being taught to fear a gun. I understand the outrage because bad people have easy access to guns, and it needs to stop. But I also full heatedly want to keep guns in the hands of my fellow Alaskans who's use them responsibly. I know all kinds of people who like to collect fire arms, people that like to go hunting, people that go to the range for fun, and even people who just like to have one in their car when they go out at night. All very good people. My girlfriend recently said she wants to get education on how to properly handle a gun and I fully support her. We can all co-exist. Not all gun owners are bad
True, people can co exist, but guns and people have been incompatible for a few hundred years already. Stricter gun laws will possibly lower incidents of shootings, but we're never going to end the problem until one of us ceases to exist. All of our efforts are merely bandaids on an already severed head and there's lots of blood to soak up these days.
I just fear that if guns are harder to get, then only the out laws are going to have guns. Might as well just keep the good people armed at this point.
Depends on what you mean by "harder to get."
I find it absolutely outrageous that any person in this country who wants to operate a motor vehicle has to go through a basic training class, a written test, be placed on a provisional period, pass another written test, and a physical driving test to do so and no one bats an eye. But mention you want to do the same type of process with guns and oh my lord it's the end of the free fucking world.
Tons of people are killed each year in cars. You have to be 18 to buy a gun. Driving and owning a car is not a constitutionally protected right.
We've been over this a lot in this thread. Driving cars and the regulations that apply are not comparable to gun ownership in this country.
And apparently you're still missing the point. When did I say anything that infringed upon the 2nd Amendment rights of the people? I didn't. Nothing I said would keep anyone who legally wanted to own a gun from owning a gun. You wouldn't want someone driving a car who isn't trained properly on how to drive and who doesn't understand the rules of the road. Just asking for better regulations and licensing. The right is so hell-bent on notions of a "strong vetting process" except for when it comes to muh gunz.
I agree with that. I'd be behind a mandatory firearms training and/or safety course before you can legally purchase a gun. It's not infringing on anyone's right to own one, unless you prove that you're unsafe.
i grew up in Anchorage Alaska. Now I, myself have shot guns and everything, but have no desire to ever own one, but I will say that I grew up around a lot of responsible gun owners. Growing up, I was taught how to safely handle a gun instead of being taught to fear a gun. I understand the outrage because bad people have easy access to guns, and it needs to stop. But I also full heatedly want to keep guns in the hands of my fellow Alaskans who's use them responsibly. I know all kinds of people who like to collect fire arms, people that like to go hunting, people that go to the range for fun, and even people who just like to have one in their car when they go out at night. All very good people. My girlfriend recently said she wants to get education on how to properly handle a gun and I fully support her. We can all co-exist. Not all gun owners are bad
True, people can co exist, but guns and people have been incompatible for a few hundred years already. Stricter gun laws will possibly lower incidents of shootings, but we're never going to end the problem until one of us ceases to exist. All of our efforts are merely bandaids on an already severed head and there's lots of blood to soak up these days.
I just fear that if guns are harder to get, then only the out laws are going to have guns. Might as well just keep the good people armed at this point.
Depends on what you mean by "harder to get."
I find it absolutely outrageous that any person in this country who wants to operate a motor vehicle has to go through a basic training class, a written test, be placed on a provisional period, pass another written test, and a physical driving test to do so and no one bats an eye. But mention you want to do the same type of process with guns and oh my lord it's the end of the free fucking world.
Tons of people are killed each year in cars. You have to be 18 to buy a gun. Driving and owning a car is not a constitutionally protected right.
We've been over this a lot in this thread. Driving cars and the regulations that apply are not comparable to gun ownership in this country.
And apparently you're still missing the point. When did I say anything that infringed upon the 2nd Amendment rights of the people? I didn't. Nothing I said would keep anyone who legally wanted to own a gun from owning a gun. You wouldn't want someone driving a car who isn't trained properly on how to drive and who doesn't understand the rules of the road. Just asking for better regulations and licensing. The right is so hell-bent on notions of a "strong vetting process" except for when it comes to muh gunz.
I agree with that. I'd be behind a mandatory firearms training and/or safety course before you can legally purchase a gun. It's not infringing on anyone's right to own one, unless you prove that you're unsafe.
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“He had a rifle that was clearly meant for the job of taking people out, multiple casualties, and he had several rounds and magazines that he kept unloading and reloading.”
That's impossible. I have been informed on many occasions that guns are strictly for game hunting and target practice.
i grew up in Anchorage Alaska. Now I, myself have shot guns and everything, but have no desire to ever own one, but I will say that I grew up around a lot of responsible gun owners. Growing up, I was taught how to safely handle a gun instead of being taught to fear a gun. I understand the outrage because bad people have easy access to guns, and it needs to stop. But I also full heatedly want to keep guns in the hands of my fellow Alaskans who's use them responsibly. I know all kinds of people who like to collect fire arms, people that like to go hunting, people that go to the range for fun, and even people who just like to have one in their car when they go out at night. All very good people. My girlfriend recently said she wants to get education on how to properly handle a gun and I fully support her. We can all co-exist. Not all gun owners are bad
True, people can co exist, but guns and people have been incompatible for a few hundred years already. Stricter gun laws will possibly lower incidents of shootings, but we're never going to end the problem until one of us ceases to exist. All of our efforts are merely bandaids on an already severed head and there's lots of blood to soak up these days.
I just fear that if guns are harder to get, then only the out laws are going to have guns. Might as well just keep the good people armed at this point.
Depends on what you mean by "harder to get."
I find it absolutely outrageous that any person in this country who wants to operate a motor vehicle has to go through a basic training class, a written test, be placed on a provisional period, pass another written test, and a physical driving test to do so and no one bats an eye. But mention you want to do the same type of process with guns and oh my lord it's the end of the free fucking world.
Tons of people are killed each year in cars. You have to be 18 to buy a gun. Driving and owning a car is not a constitutionally protected right.
We've been over this a lot in this thread. Driving cars and the regulations that apply are not comparable to gun ownership in this country.
And apparently you're still missing the point. When did I say anything that infringed upon the 2nd Amendment rights of the people? I didn't. Nothing I said would keep anyone who legally wanted to own a gun from owning a gun. You wouldn't want someone driving a car who isn't trained properly on how to drive and who doesn't understand the rules of the road. Just asking for better regulations and licensing. The right is so hell-bent on notions of a "strong vetting process" except for when it comes to muh gunz.
I agree with that. I'd be behind a mandatory firearms training and/or safety course before you can legally purchase a gun. It's not infringing on anyone's right to own one, unless you prove that you're unsafe.
What about age restrictions on usage?
For buying a gun? they can be kept the same as they are now. Here in TN, you have to be 18 to purchase a shotgun or hunting rifle, but 21 for handguns. If you're under whatever age is set, but like to go hunting, currently you can't legally purchase a gun, but you have to pass a hunter safety course before you can go and have to have a hunting license. Wouldn't be much of a change for that, except you'd throw in a gun safety course with that hunting safety course (although many incorporate that in there already) for children.
holy shit the shooter's facebook profile is all Bernie Sanders
Not a surprise. First it was Fox news creating haters and eliminating rational discussion and then MSNBC took over.
Fox News + MSNBC + stupid gun laws + social media = crazy people killing others.
Its awful. No discussion, just hate. All "my team vs your team". Its either a win or a loss, no more win-wins. I wonder if anywhere on that facebook had him praising kathy Griffin.....
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Looks like it was a nutjob Bernie Sanders supporter.
holy shit the shooter's facebook profile is all Bernie Sanders
Not a surprise. First it was Fox news creating haters and eliminating rational discussion and then MSNBC took over.
Fox News + MSNBC + stupid gun laws + social media = crazy people killing others.
Its awful. No discussion, just hate. All "my team vs your team". Its either a win or a loss, no more win-wins. I wonder if anywhere on that facebook had him praising kathy Griffin.....
It looks like he hated Hillary as much as Trump
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holy shit the shooter's facebook profile is all Bernie Sanders
This just in: Citizen exercises second amendment rights to protect themselves from government tyranny. GOP reportedly confused.
I would say "Left wing terrorist asshole perpetuates politically charged shooting at sporting event (where it is usually illegal to carry for self defense, btw).
I think we know the answer to that. Had this man been Muslim, we'd already have a tweet from the President about how we need a travel ban to keep us safe. But since it's a white guy with a gun...radio silence about keeping us safe.
I think we know the answer to that. Had this man been Muslim, we'd already have a tweet from the President about how we need a travel ban to keep us safe. But since it's a white guy with a gun...radio silence about keeping us safe.
Yup, it's just an unforeseen tragedy. He's a madman, lone gunman. Thoughts and prayers.
No shit...all of those snowflake republicans should have been packing heat
Aren't sporting events considered "Gun Free Zones" in most states?
This wasn't a sporting event. It was like going to a community park. The shooter wouldn't have gotten in to a sporting event along with the rest of the gun toting protectors you're advocating for. Either way, people with guns were right there and several were still shot. Fortunately no one has been fatally shot. 2nd amendment doesn't protect anyone in this instance.
No shit...all of those snowflake republicans should have been packing heat
Aren't sporting events considered "Gun Free Zones" in most states?
This wasn't a sporting event. It was like going to a community park. The shooter wouldn't have gotten in to a sporting event along with the rest of the gun toting protectors you're advocating for. Either way, people with guns were right there and several were still shot. Fortunately no one has been fatally shot. 2nd amendment doesn't protect anyone in this instance.
also, people with guns = trained security there to protect Congressmen
It is my understanding that at least one person was fatally shot
I think we know the answer to that. Had this man been Muslim, we'd already have a tweet from the President about how we need a travel ban to keep us safe. But since it's a white guy with a gun...radio silence about keeping us safe.
Yup, it's just an unforeseen tragedy. He's a madman, lone gunman. Thoughts and prayers.
No shit...all of those snowflake republicans should have been packing heat
Aren't sporting events considered "Gun Free Zones" in most states?
This wasn't a sporting event. It was like going to a community park. The shooter wouldn't have gotten in to a sporting event along with the rest of the gun toting protectors you're advocating for. Either way, people with guns were right there and several were still shot. Fortunately no one has been fatally shot. 2nd amendment doesn't protect anyone in this instance.
Well, if he had not been "engaged immediately" by someone else with a gun, do you not think the results might have been different? He probably would have walked around finishing people off as seen in other incidents where gunmen faced no opposition. "Good guys" with guns most likely saved several lives in this situation.
holy shit the shooter's facebook profile is all Bernie Sanders
Yep. The "liberal media" is going to have a field day with this.
The "resistance" just took a few steps back.
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holy shit the shooter's facebook profile is all Bernie Sanders
Yep. The "liberal media" is going to have a field day with this.
The "resistance" just took a few steps back.
The resistance didn't do anything. It's not defined by how some right wing folks want to continually grasp at singular events to confirm their belief system.
Is a terrorist organization taking credit for the attack? Less then 12 hours in. Should wait and see
Perhaps it was the Sons of the Harpies?
The accepted definition of terrorist now is that you only need to be "influenced" by a terrorist group. Of course that depends on what religion the perpetrator is.
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Because they were all wealthy white men who wanted to be able to protect what they saw as theirs by right?
The right is so hell-bent on notions of a "strong vetting process" except for when it comes to muh gunz.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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“He had a rifle that was clearly meant for the job of taking people out, multiple casualties, and he had several rounds and magazines that he kept unloading and reloading.”
That's impossible. I have been informed on many occasions that guns are strictly for game hunting and target practice.
Fox News + MSNBC + stupid gun laws + social media = crazy people killing others.
Its awful. No discussion, just hate. All "my team vs your team". Its either a win or a loss, no more win-wins. I wonder if anywhere on that facebook had him praising kathy Griffin.....
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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Could either way, really
It is my understanding that at least one person was fatally shot
The "resistance" just took a few steps back.
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Is a terrorist organization taking credit for the attack? Less then 12 hours in. Should wait and see
Perhaps it was the Sons of the Harpies?
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2