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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,753
    I would never take my kids to a Headstones show, for example. every second word out of Hugh Dillon's mouth is "mother******". Plus they have one song called Fuck It and one called Fuck You, and they play both regularly. But I'll take her to a beach festival that the watchmen are playing at. it's family oriented, outdoors, and at the cottage! And kids are free with adult admission! and on my birthday weekend and holidays! can't ask for much better than that! 
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  • Nolee
    Nolee Posts: 66
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    But I'll take her to a beach festival that the watchmen are playing at. it's family oriented, outdoors, and at the cottage! And kids are free with adult admission! and on my birthday weekend and holidays! can't ask for much better than that! 

    Aw man, there's one of the things I have really missed about living in Winnipeg, is getting to see the Watchmen play! I used to ride the same transit bus as Danny from time to time - never had the guts to talk to him though, hehe =)
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    My 2 year old has been to 2 PJ shows and a Todd Snider and friends show at Pisgah Brewery.
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  • pbultimate
    pbultimate Posts: 621
    rgambs said:
    My 2 year old has been to 2 PJ shows and a Todd Snider and friends show at Pisgah Brewery.
    Whats his/her opinion of the shows?

    This is a ridiculous thread and i cant believe it gets discussed every time. 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,018
    pbultimate said:
    rgambs said:
    My 2 year old has been to 2 PJ shows and a Todd Snider and friends show at Pisgah Brewery.
    Whats his/her opinion of the shows?

    This is a ridiculous thread and i cant believe it gets discussed every time. 
    What's a two year olds opinion of anything?  By that logic we should leave kids home and never take them anywhere. 
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    pbultimate said:
    rgambs said:
    My 2 year old has been to 2 PJ shows and a Todd Snider and friends show at Pisgah Brewery.
    Whats his/her opinion of the shows?

    This is a ridiculous thread and i cant believe it gets discussed every time. 
    I don't know, but we all had a blast at all three!
    Probably going to the Pilgrimage Fest to see Eddie too, I'll let you know when he writes his review.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    on2legs said:
    pbultimate said:
    rgambs said:
    My 2 year old has been to 2 PJ shows and a Todd Snider and friends show at Pisgah Brewery.
    Whats his/her opinion of the shows?

    This is a ridiculous thread and i cant believe it gets discussed every time. 
    What's a two year olds opinion of anything?  By that logic we should leave kids home and never take them anywhere. 

    It is a valid question pbultimate as the poster you responded to mentioned his very own child in the discussion. 
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    pbultimate said:
    rgambs said:
    My 2 year old has been to 2 PJ shows and a Todd Snider and friends show at Pisgah Brewery.
    Whats his/her opinion of the shows?

    This is a ridiculous thread and i cant believe it gets discussed every time. 

    It's ridiculous when babies are being brought to a Pearl Jam concert.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    edited May 2017
    I don't want to speak for the others here, but to me there's a romantic aspect to it. Father and son going to ballgames moves plenty of men to tears. Me included. 
    For me, Pearl Jam is where I really found my individual self and place in the world and I want to share that with my son. We're not guaranteed tomorrow in this world and when my time is up, my son can know that he spent time with me at my favorite thing (that doesn't involve family) Even if his memories of it are vague, knowing that we shared the experience is what will live on long after I'm gone. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,753
    ledvedderman said:
    I don't want to speak for the others here, but to me there's a romantic aspect to it. Father and son going to ballgames moves plenty of men to tears. Me included. 
    For me, Pearl Jam is where I really found my individual self and place in the world and I want to share that with my son. We're not guaranteed tomorrow in this world and when my time is up, my son can know that he spent time with me at my favorite thing (that doesn't involve family) Even if his memories of it are vague, knowing that we shared the experience is what will live on long after I'm gone. 
    excellently said. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,753
    Nolee said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    But I'll take her to a beach festival that the watchmen are playing at. it's family oriented, outdoors, and at the cottage! And kids are free with adult admission! and on my birthday weekend and holidays! can't ask for much better than that! 

    Aw man, there's one of the things I have really missed about living in Winnipeg, is getting to see the Watchmen play! I used to ride the same transit bus as Danny from time to time - never had the guts to talk to him though, hehe =)
    awesome. he's super standoffish. not in a dick way, just very shy. Ken Tizzard invited me to the soudcheck the day of their first Burton Cummings Theatre show a couple years back, and so there was a meet and greet that I got to be involved in along with some radio contest winners, and I was trying to talk to Danny and he kept pacing back and forth just sort of barely answering my questions. I wasn't fanboying, or grilling him, just talking to him like I talked to Joey and Sammy and Ken. The rest of th eguys were completley normal human beings, and seemed to enjoy my engagement of their music. But Danny was acting like a mental patient. LOL
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    ledvedderman said:
    I don't want to speak for the others here, but to me there's a romantic aspect to it. Father and son going to ballgames moves plenty of men to tears. Me included. 
    For me, Pearl Jam is where I really found my individual self and place in the world and I want to share that with my son. We're not guaranteed tomorrow in this world and when my time is up, my son can know that he spent time with me at my favorite thing (that doesn't involve family) Even if his memories of it are vague, knowing that we shared the experience is what will live on long after I'm gone. 

    Awesome post! I was thinking about this a bit more - the dissenters in this discussion, are you coming from a real place of compassion and concern for a 2-3 year old attending a Pearl Jam show? A place of insane jealousy that said kid and parent might end up near the stage and get something from the band (an acknowledgement or pic, or drumstick)? What? I wonder about how people's own personal shit drives their opinions.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    MayDay10 said:

    Maybe an outdoor show on a lawn in a few years?  Like someone said, perhaps a tamer-show such as Weezer or Goo Goo Dolls or something would be better....  but I am in no hurry, really. 
    If you take your child to a Goo Goo Dolls concert, I'm reporting you to child services.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    dankind said:
    MayDay10 said:

    Maybe an outdoor show on a lawn in a few years?  Like someone said, perhaps a tamer-show such as Weezer or Goo Goo Dolls or something would be better....  but I am in no hurry, really. 
    If you take your child to a Goo Goo Dolls concert, I'm reporting you to child services.
    :lol:
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  • dlymnfld
    dlymnfld CT Posts: 923
    edited May 2017
    I find myself in a similar precarious situation. I have front row center tickets to Amos Lee (soulful mellow singer similar to Ray Lamontagne and comparable to EV solo show) at a small venue (Capital Center for the Arts in Concord, NH) and my wife now can't go as she's no longer going on vacation with me, my kids and my parents. So my choices of music companions are; A. My 70 year old mother who casually likes music (I think her last show was Neil Diamond in 1980), B. My 12 year old daughter who has been to her share of outside festivals geared towards kids like Life is Good Festival, Gathering of the Vibes, etc. but could care less about Amos Lee as she's into typical pre-teen Twenty One Pilots Imagine Dragon music or C. My 8 year old daughter who likes the same type of music as me as her favorite two bands are The Lumineers and The Head and the Heart and is begging me to go? My dilemma is my mother would go and appreciate the music and setting but be clueless, my oldest would go and be fine but not appreciate either and my youngest would be a wildcard and could love it or be bored in five minutes. I personally now wish I just bought one ticket as being a parent, I agree with the consensus that outside festivals are the  best setting for kids. 
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  • Nolee
    Nolee Posts: 66
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Nolee said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    But I'll take her to a beach festival that the watchmen are playing at. it's family oriented, outdoors, and at the cottage! And kids are free with adult admission! and on my birthday weekend and holidays! can't ask for much better than that! 

    Aw man, there's one of the things I have really missed about living in Winnipeg, is getting to see the Watchmen play! I used to ride the same transit bus as Danny from time to time - never had the guts to talk to him though, hehe =)
    I was trying to talk to Danny and he kept pacing back and forth just sort of barely answering my questions. I wasn't fanboying, or grilling him, just talking to him like I talked to Joey and Sammy and Ken. The rest of th eguys were completley normal human beings, and seemed to enjoy my engagement of their music. But Danny was acting like a mental patient. LOL
    I think that was maybe why I never approached him, he always gave off that needed his space kinda vibe, and I am the same on the bus so I understood - headphones in, music cranked, gettin' to where I needed to go :) Ahhh, I miss the BC theatre too - saw many great shows there! It's been too long since I was in Winnipeg :P
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,878
    I think there are a lot of variables that go into this decision.  Some of which has been mentioned:

    1) Time of the show
    2) Venue (space and whether or not it is a more intimate theater/seated experience)
    3) Crowd (age...availability of alcohol/drugs)
    4) Type of music (mainly due to noise)

    I have an almost 10 year old daughter.  She has been to 4 concerts so far.  Her earliest was an Eddie Vedder concert in Ft Lauderdale.  She was pretty young (6), but the concert had been rescheduled and happened to be the day we got off a cruise...so we stayed and went.  She had child earmuffs on, a comfy seat and it was in a nice theater...and a more quiet show until Hard Sun.  She enjoyed herself for a while, fell alseep 6-8 songs in and never woke up.  I'll be honest, she was there mostly cause I wanted to go, but I also thought it was cool to share something I love with her in a setting that was more appropriate then a PJ concert in my opinion.  Since then she has seen Lisa Loeb in a theater and then the last 1.5 years has seen Taylor Swift (that was for her) and Twenty One Pilots.  I still wonder if she is old enough for a true Rock show....but I do think she is close.  She's a mature little girl and wears her hearing protection.  I don;t expect anyone around us to change their behavior other than maybe be a little more careful about not spilling beer or falling over into her.  

    I think I may try to take her to PJ next tour, but only if she wants to.  She likes concerts a lot and has enjoyed them, but she also knows she may not want to sit through it all.  So if she thinks that, she decides she doesn't want to go.  And I realize as a parent that if I take her, there may be a reason I need to leave early.  So if I'm not willing to do that, I wouldn't take her.  I'm not going to force her to sit there....counterproductive when I'm trying to get her to appreciate love music.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,635
    At the recent festival I attended, I was not too far from a mom and her kid who was maybe 7.  The festival setting actually made some sense...they had their share of space in a decent location to the side.  I looked like it was working out.  She obviously would not have been able to indulge fantasies about leaning on the rail, but it seemed to work OK.

    And Soundgarden was the headliner; five days before Cornell's death.  It was the kid's only chance.  

    For a PJ show, sure...not GA (unless you're willing to hang out at the side/back, but why not?   Of course I say this as someone that has no kids (nor desire to have any). I don't know what kind of parenting has to come in with all the debauchery that occurs at a show.  My PJ experience has been pretty good overall, though I did sit about five seats down from someone who passed out for the majority of the show.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    OnWis97 said:
    My PJ experience has been pretty good overall, though I did sit about five seats down from someone who passed out for the majority of the show.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    My opinion is five years old is too young to take to a rock show.  My first show happened when I was 12 or 13 and that was just the right time.  But of course I wouldn't make it a rule or tell someone what to do.  My only advice is have the kid wear these and know how to seat them in the ears properly:


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