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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,976
    JK_Livin said:
    Now just 5 weeks to go over all the scenarios.  I like Jackson, Monk and Fox. If we don't love someone at 3 then try to trade down a few spots. Thanks Sam.
    I think Fox is going to be the best pick in this draft looking ahead but not so sure if he's a good fit there in Philly.

    Thoughts?
  • The Juggler
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    Jason P said:
    So The Process got them from 5 to 3 with the 4th worst record?  Hinkie is a goddamn genius ...
    That particular trade also got their '19 first round pick when the Kings will most likely still be dreadful and the Sixers should be playoff contenders. You know what Hinkie gave up for all of this?....nothing. Zilch. Zip. Nadda. We helped them clear cap space. That's it. I don't know if that makes him a genius or not but, at the very least, it makes him an extremely shrewed gm who set this team up for the future better than at any point, for the most part, in the last 3 decades. 
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,420
    The Juggler said:
    Jason P said:
    So The Process got them from 5 to 3 with the 4th worst record?  Hinkie is a goddamn genius ...
    That particular trade also got their '19 first round pick when the Kings will most likely still be dreadful and the Sixers should be playoff contenders. You know what Hinkie gave up for all of this?....nothing. Zilch. Zip. Nadda. We helped them clear cap space. That's it. I don't know if that makes him a genius or not but, at the very least, it makes him an extremely shrewed gm who set this team up for the future better than at any point, for the most part, in the last 3 decades. 
    I give Hinkie credit for being to first person to realize Vlade could be persuaded into crappy deals with shiny objects and trinkets the same way the Dutch bought the island of Manhattan in the 1600's.  Pelicans dipped into the Vlade well and probably couldn't believe it also worked.
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,350
    JK_Livin said:
    Now just 5 weeks to go over all the scenarios.  I like Jackson, Monk and Fox. If we don't love someone at 3 then try to trade down a few spots. Thanks Sam.
    Ther probably looking at Jayson Tatum too.  Maybe Jonathon Issac also?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    cutz said:
    JK_Livin said:
    Now just 5 weeks to go over all the scenarios.  I like Jackson, Monk and Fox. If we don't love someone at 3 then try to trade down a few spots. Thanks Sam.
    Ther probably looking at Jayson Tatum too.  Maybe Jonathon Issac also?Ta

    Tatum? I hope not.


    Wish Jackson could shoot the ball better....


    What do you make of the 3, Lakers pick and Saric to Celtics for 1 rumor? I wish that would work with Okafor instead, but I doubt it would. Would be a ton to give up....but if you get the guy who fits best with Simmons and Embiid, you gotta at least think about it.


    There are quite a few different scenarios I'd be good with right now. Trading down might make the most sense.


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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,350
    Just that :Rumors>LOL>No, but i don't think Fultz is a generational player to give all that up. Especially Saric, who i think is going to be good and his shot should improve. Lakers are probably gonna suck next year so that pick should be a high one.  Though, if it did happen i WISH it was Okafor  in that trade. Gotta give it to the Celtics and they hold all the cards.  They could do anything.

    Agree: ther are a lot the 76ers could do with that pick. The next month should be interesting with this Draft.


  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,081
    The Juggler said:
    cutz said:
    JK_Livin said:
    Now just 5 weeks to go over all the scenarios.  I like Jackson, Monk and Fox. If we don't love someone at 3 then try to trade down a few spots. Thanks Sam.
    Ther probably looking at Jayson Tatum too.  Maybe Jonathon Issac also?Ta

    Tatum? I hope not.


    Wish Jackson could shoot the ball better....


    What do you make of the 3, Lakers pick and Saric to Celtics for 1 rumor? I wish that would work with Okafor instead, but I doubt it would. Would be a ton to give up....but if you get the guy who fits best with Simmons and Embiid, you gotta at least think about it.


    There are quite a few different scenarios I'd be good with right now. Trading down might make the most sense.


    I thought Tatum was kind of soft from what I saw of him.  I know he battled some injuries so maybe that is part of it but I wasn't fully impressed with him

    some concern with Jackson's shooting but he did shoot the ball better in the 2nd half of the season at Kansas.  He has a great body and gret hands though.   Bigger concern might be character.  he did threaten to beat a woman and has to undergo anger management as part of the settlement.  At 3 I think he is probably the best pick for the Sixers

    Really like Isaacs but don't think he is a fit for the Sixers.  he is another 4 although i've seen some talk about him maybe ending up as a 3 which i think is a stretch. His body needs to fill out though so might take a few years before you see him develop.
     
    that would be an awful trade.  you cannot give the Celtics that Lakers pick.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Might be warming up to Isaac but I have a feeling it's not going to be Fultz, Ball & Jackson in order.  Don't like the fact that Jackson has a court order anger management class for a year.

    I don't see Boston trading that top pick unless its for George or Butler. How many more picks can they have? They already have the Nets and theirs next year and a few overseas stashed players.
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,350
    edited May 2017
    Double post......................................for some reason.

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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,350
    This is pretty good:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711797-game-of-zones-season-4-episode-6-trust-the-process


  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599

    Kings looking to trade 5 and 10 to move up for Fox?


    Man, I wish Hinkie were still here to rape them again...

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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler said:
    Jason P said:
    So The Process got them from 5 to 3 with the 4th worst record?  Hinkie is a goddamn genius ...
    That particular trade also got their '19 first round pick when the Kings will most likely still be dreadful and the Sixers should be playoff contenders. You know what Hinkie gave up for all of this?....nothing. Zilch. Zip. Nadda. We helped them clear cap space. That's it. I don't know if that makes him a genius or not but, at the very least, it makes him an extremely shrewed gm who set this team up for the future better than at any point, for the most part, in the last 3 decades. 
    that trade with the kings...along with the trade with orlando...as well as getting anything for the steaming turd of MCW...make sam hinkie arguably the best sixers GM ever

    http://www.libertyballers.com/2014-nba-draft-prospects-andrew-wiggins-julius-randle/2014/6/27/5848660/sixers-magic-trade-dario-saric-elfrid-payton-draft-picks

    every time I visit Xfinity Live I will pay my respects to his deserved spot in the rafters

  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler said:
    that is hilarious.  hahaha
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited June 2017
    here are my random draft thoughts...

    I love when 'experts' refer to certain college player stats.  The sixers pick at 3.  Most of the guys they are considering are one and done guys, so they are 19 years old.  Referring to their three point percentage after 40 games really means nothing.  College basketball statistics are more worthless than Ryan Howard's RBI totals (hahahaha).  
    Trading down from 3 makes zero sense.  Sixers already have too many prospects at the NBA level and not enough roster spots. They also have a surplus of future picks (namely the lakers first in 18 and the kings first in 19, both unprotected -- the sixers future is stacked)

    Normally I would like to see the trade down, but this year I'd like to see them trade up for Fultz.  Being that boston has the 1 pick this year, it's not normal.  In my perfect world, the celtics take ball/jackson first, the sixers trade the lakers first back to them (with okafors fat ass), and they get fultz at one.  if not just take jackson or dennis smith at 3.  I could live with tatum but I think that pick is conservative.  You can't teach athleticism, you can teach a guy to shoot.  kawaii leonard couldn't shoot out of college.  westbrook couldn't shoot out of college.  

    guards are the easiest position to find.  the sixers have tons of assets.  draft the guy with the largest upside (jackson, smith).  hope they work out.  if they bust like okafat, then dump them. 

    come on colonjello - do the right thing.  ugh

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,081
    The Fixer said:
    here are my random draft thoughts...

    I love when 'experts' refer to certain college player stats.  The sixers pick at 3.  Most of the guys they are considering are one and done guys, so they are 19 years old.  Referring to their three point percentage after 40 games really means nothing.  College basketball statistics are more worthless than Ryan Howard's RBI totals (hahahaha).  
    Trading down from 3 makes zero sense.  Sixers already have too many prospects at the NBA level and not enough roster spots. They also have a surplus of future picks (namely the lakers first in 18 and the kings first in 19, both unprotected -- the sixers future is stacked)

    Normally I would like to see the trade down, but this year I'd like to see them trade up for Fultz.  Being that boston has the 1 pick this year, it's not normal.  In my perfect world, the celtics take ball/jackson first, the sixers trade the lakers first back to them (with okafors fat ass), and they get fultz at one.  if not just take jackson or dennis smith at 3.  I could live with tatum but I think that pick is conservative.  You can't teach athleticism, you can teach a guy to shoot.  kawaii leonard couldn't shoot out of college.  westbrook couldn't shoot out of college.  

    guards are the easiest position to find.  the sixers have tons of assets.  draft the guy with the largest upside (jackson, smith).  hope they work out.  if they bust like okafat, then dump them. 

    come on colonjello - do the right thing.  ugh

    any other unrealistic ideas you got? the Celtics aren't taking Ball or Jackson and they aren't trading #1 to the Sixers.  just stop.


  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Are we going to screw this up? If Lakers take Jackson, do we take Ball? I'd be happy if we come out with Jackson , Monk or the FSU kid. I'm all over the place. A lot of these kids look good, even Smith.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,081
    JK_Livin said:
    Are we going to screw this up? If Lakers take Jackson, do we take Ball? I'd be happy if we come out with Jackson , Monk or the FSU kid. I'm all over the place. A lot of these kids look good, even Smith.
     I would but I have a feeling the Sixers wouldn't.  I still think the Lakers are taking Ball though.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Are the Sixers going to workout any of the top 10 players? 9 days away and all we've brought in are 2nd rounders.
    Alright, alright, alright!
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,067
    pjhawks said:
    The Fixer said:
    here are my random draft thoughts...

    I love when 'experts' refer to certain college player stats.  The sixers pick at 3.  Most of the guys they are considering are one and done guys, so they are 19 years old.  Referring to their three point percentage after 40 games really means nothing.  College basketball statistics are more worthless than Ryan Howard's RBI totals (hahahaha).  
    Trading down from 3 makes zero sense.  Sixers already have too many prospects at the NBA level and not enough roster spots. They also have a surplus of future picks (namely the lakers first in 18 and the kings first in 19, both unprotected -- the sixers future is stacked)

    Normally I would like to see the trade down, but this year I'd like to see them trade up for Fultz.  Being that boston has the 1 pick this year, it's not normal.  In my perfect world, the celtics take ball/jackson first, the sixers trade the lakers first back to them (with okafors fat ass), and they get fultz at one.  if not just take jackson or dennis smith at 3.  I could live with tatum but I think that pick is conservative.  You can't teach athleticism, you can teach a guy to shoot.  kawaii leonard couldn't shoot out of college.  westbrook couldn't shoot out of college.  

    guards are the easiest position to find.  the sixers have tons of assets.  draft the guy with the largest upside (jackson, smith).  hope they work out.  if they bust like okafat, then dump them. 

    come on colonjello - do the right thing.  ugh

    any other unrealistic ideas you got? the Celtics aren't taking Ball or Jackson and they aren't trading #1 to the Sixers.  just stop.


    Ummmm....

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