Trump Signs Anti-Planned Parenthood Law
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Under the noses of the press,the president signed a law that allows states to withhold funding for planned Parenthood. This is a very hostile act towards women's health rights.
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It passed in the Senate. Pence's vote was the tie breaker.0
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Women still have the same rights, the fed just doesn't want to pay for their abortions anymore.joseph33 said:Under the noses of the press,the president signed a law that allows states to withhold funding for planned Parenthood. This is a very hostile act towards women's health rights.
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Right. Because that's all PP does if provide abortions.elvistheking44 said:
Women still have the same rights, the fed just doesn't want to pay for their abortions anymore.joseph33 said:Under the noses of the press,the president signed a law that allows states to withhold funding for planned Parenthood. This is a very hostile act towards women's health rights.
Only about 3% of PP's services is abortion provision. The vast majority is provision of reproductive health services to women and men (including teens). Their services prevent far, far more abortions than they perform, and defunding them will lead reduced access to reproductive health services, including contraception, particularly for those least able to afford alternatives, and hence to an increase in unwanted pregnancies.
Where people have no affordable alternative, and thus no longer get reproductive health services, you can bet it does infringe on their rights. It's also a pretty stupid move when one actually looks at the outcomes. PP does exactly what conservatives pretend to want - prevent unwanted pregnancies. But that's not what they actually want.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Yes. PP offers much more. My words were short. Funding may get cut, but no woman is losing a right. This is the kind of wording that gets people in trouble. No rights are being infringed on.oftenreading said:
Right. Because that's all PP does if provide abortions.elvistheking44 said:
Women still have the same rights, the fed just doesn't want to pay for their abortions anymore.joseph33 said:Under the noses of the press,the president signed a law that allows states to withhold funding for planned Parenthood. This is a very hostile act towards women's health rights.
Only about 3% of PP's services is abortion provision. The vast majority is provision of reproductive health services to women and men (including teens). Their services prevent far, far more abortions than they perform, and defunding them will lead reduced access to reproductive health services, including contraception, particularly for those least able to afford alternatives, and hence to an increase in unwanted pregnancies.
Where people have no affordable alternative, and thus no longer get reproductive health services, you can bet it does infringe on their rights. It's also a pretty stupid move when one actually looks at the outcomes. PP does exactly what conservatives pretend to want - prevent unwanted pregnancies. But that's not what they actually want.0 -
Well, that depends on what you consider rights. I mean, it's not like guns or anything, but throughout the world, most nations that the US would probably like to be grouped with consider access to affordable and appropriate health care a basic human right. Organizations like the UN, WHO, and others consider it so. Defunding PP will likely remove access to health care for a large number of people, many of them women. Low income women and those in more remote areas of the country will be particularly affected.elvistheking44 said:
Yes. PP offers much more. My words were short. Funding may get cut, but no woman is losing a right. This is the kind of wording that gets people in trouble. No rights are being infringed on.oftenreading said:
Right. Because that's all PP does if provide abortions.elvistheking44 said:
Women still have the same rights, the fed just doesn't want to pay for their abortions anymore.joseph33 said:Under the noses of the press,the president signed a law that allows states to withhold funding for planned Parenthood. This is a very hostile act towards women's health rights.
Only about 3% of PP's services is abortion provision. The vast majority is provision of reproductive health services to women and men (including teens). Their services prevent far, far more abortions than they perform, and defunding them will lead reduced access to reproductive health services, including contraception, particularly for those least able to afford alternatives, and hence to an increase in unwanted pregnancies.
Where people have no affordable alternative, and thus no longer get reproductive health services, you can bet it does infringe on their rights. It's also a pretty stupid move when one actually looks at the outcomes. PP does exactly what conservatives pretend to want - prevent unwanted pregnancies. But that's not what they actually want.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Access to affordable, professional health care isn't a right?elvistheking44 said:
Yes. PP offers much more. My words were short. Funding may get cut, but no woman is losing a right. This is the kind of wording that gets people in trouble. No rights are being infringed on.oftenreading said:
Right. Because that's all PP does if provide abortions.elvistheking44 said:
Women still have the same rights, the fed just doesn't want to pay for their abortions anymore.joseph33 said:Under the noses of the press,the president signed a law that allows states to withhold funding for planned Parenthood. This is a very hostile act towards women's health rights.
Only about 3% of PP's services is abortion provision. The vast majority is provision of reproductive health services to women and men (including teens). Their services prevent far, far more abortions than they perform, and defunding them will lead reduced access to reproductive health services, including contraception, particularly for those least able to afford alternatives, and hence to an increase in unwanted pregnancies.
Where people have no affordable alternative, and thus no longer get reproductive health services, you can bet it does infringe on their rights. It's also a pretty stupid move when one actually looks at the outcomes. PP does exactly what conservatives pretend to want - prevent unwanted pregnancies. But that's not what they actually want.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
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Access to affordable, professional health care isn't a right?</blockquoteelvistheking44 said:
Yes. PP offers much more. My words were short. Funding may get cut, but no woman is losing a right. This is the kind of wording that gets people in trouble. No rights are being infringed on.oftenreading said:
Right. Because that's all PP does if provide abortions.elvistheking44 said:
Women still have the same rights, the fed just doesn't want to pay for their abortions anymore.joseph33 said:Under the noses of the press,the president signed a law that allows states to withhold funding for planned Parenthood. This is a very hostile act towards women's health rights.
Only about 3% of PP's services is abortion provision. The vast majority is provision of reproductive health services to women and men (including teens). Their services prevent far, far more abortions than they perform, and defunding them will lead reduced access to reproductive health services, including contraception, particularly for those least able to afford alternatives, and hence to an increase in unwanted pregnancies.
Where people have no affordable alternative, and thus no longer get reproductive health services, you can bet it does infringe on their rights. It's also a pretty stupid move when one actually looks at the outcomes. PP does exactly what conservatives pretend to want - prevent unwanted pregnancies. But that's not what they actually want.
No it's a luxury our government has provided to those who can't afford it. Is it fucked up, absolutely.0 -
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Then you agree that rights are being infringed upon since government has made it a luxury and not a right?elvistheking44 said:
No it's a luxury our government has provided to those who can't afford it. Is it fucked up, absolutely.HesCalledDyer said:
Access to affordable, professional health care isn't a right?elvistheking44 said:
Yes. PP offers much more. My words were short. Funding may get cut, but no woman is losing a right. This is the kind of wording that gets people in trouble. No rights are being infringed on.oftenreading said:
Right. Because that's all PP does if provide abortions.elvistheking44 said:
Women still have the same rights, the fed just doesn't want to pay for their abortions anymore.joseph33 said:Under the noses of the press,the president signed a law that allows states to withhold funding for planned Parenthood. This is a very hostile act towards women's health rights.
Only about 3% of PP's services is abortion provision. The vast majority is provision of reproductive health services to women and men (including teens). Their services prevent far, far more abortions than they perform, and defunding them will lead reduced access to reproductive health services, including contraception, particularly for those least able to afford alternatives, and hence to an increase in unwanted pregnancies.
Where people have no affordable alternative, and thus no longer get reproductive health services, you can bet it does infringe on their rights. It's also a pretty stupid move when one actually looks at the outcomes. PP does exactly what conservatives pretend to want - prevent unwanted pregnancies. But that's not what they actually want.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Stripping women's rights away. How Muslim of the anti Muslim party!
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What is "fucked up"? That health care is a luxury? That the government provides it to people who can't afford it? That PP is being defunded? I don't even know what side you are arguing here.elvistheking44 said:HesCalledDyer said:
Access to affordable, professional health care isn't a right?elvistheking44 said:
Yes. PP offers much more. My words were short. Funding may get cut, but no woman is losing a right. This is the kind of wording that gets people in trouble. No rights are being infringed on.oftenreading said:
Right. Because that's all PP does if provide abortions.elvistheking44 said:
Women still have the same rights, the fed just doesn't want to pay for their abortions anymore.joseph33 said:Under the noses of the press,the president signed a law that allows states to withhold funding for planned Parenthood. This is a very hostile act towards women's health rights.
Only about 3% of PP's services is abortion provision. The vast majority is provision of reproductive health services to women and men (including teens). Their services prevent far, far more abortions than they perform, and defunding them will lead reduced access to reproductive health services, including contraception, particularly for those least able to afford alternatives, and hence to an increase in unwanted pregnancies.
Where people have no affordable alternative, and thus no longer get reproductive health services, you can bet it does infringe on their rights. It's also a pretty stupid move when one actually looks at the outcomes. PP does exactly what conservatives pretend to want - prevent unwanted pregnancies. But that's not what they actually want.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Because right to life doesn't mean the right to a healthy life.0
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Prolife until you're born.what dreams said:Because right to life doesn't mean the right to a healthy life.
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Serious question..what rights are being stripped away? I tried to look up what exactly was signed, and didn't find much other than it's part of rollback of previous legislation, but what I did find is that this basically says the federal government can't force states to use federal money to fund PP. It now gives states the choice of how to use the money, so if they want to still use that money for PP, they can.0
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And they're all going to just that, right? Give me a break.ponytd said:Serious question..what rights are being stripped away? I tried to look up what exactly was signed, and didn't find much other than it's part of rollback of previous legislation, but what I did find is that this basically says the federal government can't force states to use federal money to fund PP. It now gives states the choice of how to use the money, so if they want to still use that money for PP, they can.
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access to the same health care options that men have.ponytd said:Serious question..what rights are being stripped away? I tried to look up what exactly was signed, and didn't find much other than it's part of rollback of previous legislation, but what I did find is that this basically says the federal government can't force states to use federal money to fund PP. It now gives states the choice of how to use the money, so if they want to still use that money for PP, they can.
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Not sure I understand this. What health care access options do men have that women do not?HughFreakingDillon said:
access to the same health care options that men have.ponytd said:Serious question..what rights are being stripped away? I tried to look up what exactly was signed, and didn't find much other than it's part of rollback of previous legislation, but what I did find is that this basically says the federal government can't force states to use federal money to fund PP. It now gives states the choice of how to use the money, so if they want to still use that money for PP, they can.
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health insurance for just being a woman is higher, making it much more difficult for women to seek the care they need.PJPOWER said:
Not sure I understand this. What health care access options do men have that women do not?HughFreakingDillon said:
access to the same health care options that men have.ponytd said:Serious question..what rights are being stripped away? I tried to look up what exactly was signed, and didn't find much other than it's part of rollback of previous legislation, but what I did find is that this basically says the federal government can't force states to use federal money to fund PP. It now gives states the choice of how to use the money, so if they want to still use that money for PP, they can.
http://www.insurancequotes.org/health-insurance/health-resources/coverage-for-women/
the biggest misconception is that planned parenthood is "state sponsored abortions", when abortions account for about 3% of PP's overall funding. everything else is general medical care/info for females.
it's just another way for the right to keep gender disparity alive while convincing the uneducated and ignorant that it's some moral issue.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Interestingly enough, did you know that vehicle insurance is more expensive for men than women? What do you think they base those costs on? And I know what Planned Parenthood does, another little known fact is that they also provide treatment for men. Women are charged more because the overall cost of treating a woman is higher. I know plenty of men that probably don't even go to a doctor until after 40.HughFreakingDillon said:
health insurance for just being a woman is higher, making it much more difficult for women to seek the care they need.PJPOWER said:
Not sure I understand this. What health care access options do men have that women do not?HughFreakingDillon said:
access to the same health care options that men have.ponytd said:Serious question..what rights are being stripped away? I tried to look up what exactly was signed, and didn't find much other than it's part of rollback of previous legislation, but what I did find is that this basically says the federal government can't force states to use federal money to fund PP. It now gives states the choice of how to use the money, so if they want to still use that money for PP, they can.
http://www.insurancequotes.org/health-insurance/health-resources/coverage-for-women/
the biggest misconception is that planned parenthood is "state sponsored abortions", when abortions account for about 3% of PP's overall funding. everything else is general medical care/info for females.
it's just another way for the right to keep gender disparity alive while convincing the uneducated and ignorant that it's some moral issue.Post edited by PJPOWER on0
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