America's Gun Violence

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:

    I don't know who you are quoting, but it most definitely is not me. One more sign that you are living in imagination land.
    I didn't realise you support a firearm registry, truly universal background checks, and magazine size regulations.
    I was pretty sure you were in the "just enforce the laws we already have".
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    reset the clock
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,430
    CM189191 said:

    reset the clock

    Say wha?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Alleged murder suicide at a San Bernardino elementary school today. :disappointed:
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  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    somewhere someone got stabbed at a school too but it didnt make yahoo's front page.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited April 2017
    rssesq said:

    somewhere someone got stabbed at a school too but it didnt make yahoo's front page.

    Get the fuck out of here.
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  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    http://www.msnbc.com/

    they know how to pick the most exploitive photos over at pinko/msnbc
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    What's your problem anyways?
    Your posts remind me of a pubescent teen.

    Take your trash somewhere else.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    rssesq said:

    somewhere someone got stabbed at a school too but it didnt make yahoo's front page.

    great...now let's take it one step further...
    why do you think there weren't any school stabbings that made the news today?
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    rgambs said:

    Alleged murder suicide at a San Bernardino elementary school today. :disappointed:

    Not too far from me. I'm about 20 miles southwest and a 30 minute drive from there. My city borders the LA/SB county border on the east side. Condolences to those affected by this tragedy.
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,140
    rgambs said:

    I didn't realise you support a firearm registry, truly universal background checks, and magazine size regulations.
    I was pretty sure you were in the "just enforce the laws we already have".
    This thought process reminds me of someone who has four dogs that are completely neglected, starved and denied veterinary care but the owner swears that a new puppy is a great idea.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    dudeman said:

    This thought process reminds me of someone who has four dogs that are completely neglected, starved and denied veterinary care but the owner swears that a new puppy is a great idea.
    Yeah, that's just stupid. The inadequacies of the laws have been pointed out again and again, you deflect and dodge and wiggle and squirm and it is embarrassing.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited April 2017
    It's tiresome.
    I point out that I can sell a gun to a criminal without paperwork.
    You say I still broke the law.
    I point out that there is no way to prove I did or punish me for it.
    I lose track of what obfuscation follows because it is like beating my head off a wall.

    It's the same with every control aspect, just beating my head off a wall that conceals it's extremist opinions in measured language.
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,140
    rgambs said:

    It's tiresome.
    I point out that I can sell a gun to a criminal without paperwork.
    You say I still broke the law.
    I point out that there is no way to prove I did or punish me for it.
    I lose track of what obfuscation follows because it is like beating my head off a wall.

    It's the same with every control aspect, just beating my head off a wall that conceals it's extremist opinions in measured language.

    The fact that there is no way to prove that someone broke the law is exactly the problem. The law is there but no one is enforcing it.

    I don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    dudeman said:

    The fact that there is no way to prove that someone broke the law is exactly the problem. The law is there but no one is enforcing it.

    I don't know why that is so difficult for you to understand.
    Me understand? How do you not understand that you can't enforce a law that is designed to be unenforceable. You can't charge someone with a crime that it is impossible to prove they committed. Duh.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    The law needs changed so that it can be enforced. Duh.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    rgambs said:

    It's tiresome.
    I point out that I can sell a gun to a criminal without paperwork.
    You say I still broke the law.
    I point out that there is no way to prove I did or punish me for it.
    I lose track of what obfuscation follows because it is like beating my head off a wall.

    It's the same with every control aspect, just beating my head off a wall that conceals it's extremist opinions in measured language.

    Logic loophole: why can't we prove you sold the gun to a criminal?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    CM189191 said:

    Logic loophole: why can't we prove you sold the gun to a criminal?
    You can't prove I knew he was a criminal. I'm not required to check.
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  • PP193448PP193448 Here Posts: 4,282
    Side note. They sold small biometric safes at my local Sams club couple years ago. Bought one for me, my brother, and my dad (Christmas presents). They are readily available at stores such as Bass Pro Shop, Field and Stream, Cabelas, etc. Pretty sure you could get one on Amazon too.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,430
    PP193448 said:

    Side note. They sold small biometric safes at my local Sams club couple years ago. Bought one for me, my brother, and my dad (Christmas presents). They are readily available at stores such as Bass Pro Shop, Field and Stream, Cabelas, etc. Pretty sure you could get one on Amazon too.

    Were 300 million sold?
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    Were 300 million sold?
    There are plenty of other ways of securing a firearm other than one of these safes. This particular safe was only mentioned due to a previous poster saying there is no way of securing a firearm for quick access. The function and availability of these proves otherwise.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PP193448 said:

    Side note. They sold small biometric safes at my local Sams club couple years ago. Bought one for me, my brother, and my dad (Christmas presents). They are readily available at stores such as Bass Pro Shop, Field and Stream, Cabelas, etc. Pretty sure you could get one on Amazon too.

    They are great. If for nothing else, they are easy to pack into a suitcase for storing other valuables while traveling. They usually come with an anti-theft wire attached to secure to a bed frame, bottom of car seat, etc.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,381
    rgambs said:

    No, no, no, because, um, the Constitution.
    You mean the second amendment, which calls for a "well regulated Militia."
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,140
    PP193448 said:

    Side note. They sold small biometric safes at my local Sams club couple years ago. Bought one for me, my brother, and my dad (Christmas presents). They are readily available at stores such as Bass Pro Shop, Field and Stream, Cabelas, etc. Pretty sure you could get one on Amazon too.

    The farmers and Amish don't have them though so it's unrealistic that any else does.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dudeman said:

    The farmers and Amish don't have them though so it's unrealistic that any else does.
    I can see how it might be easy to lose touch with the rest of society living in Amish country...even if you are not Amish yourself.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    No, you guys are right. Biometric safes fly off the shelves so fast that is becoming one of the largest industries in America!
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2017
    rgambs said:

    No, you guys are right. Biometric safes fly off the shelves so fast that is becoming one of the largest industries in America!

    Sarcasm is funny :). Safe companies definitely do not seem to be hurting right now...I may be wrong. Besides, not every gun owner needs a biometric type quick access safe. There are plenty of other options out there and everyone's house is built differently. They are smart options when staying in hotels and traveling though.
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,140
    rgambs said:

    You can't prove I knew he was a criminal. I'm not required to check.
    There are things going on now to address state governments that pass legislation that contradicts or undermines federal law. I'll post links when I can.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,430
    PJPOWER said:

    Sarcasm is funny :). Safe companies definitely do not seem to be hurting right now...I may be wrong. Besides, not every gun owner needs a biometric type quick access safe. There are plenty of other options out there and everyone's house is built differently. They are smart options when staying in hotels and traveling though.
    Key word there is smart. It seems like the standards to be in the militia are pretty low. Lot's of dumbasses out there with guns.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,381
    rgambs said:

    No, you guys are right. Biometric safes fly off the shelves so fast that is becoming one of the largest industries in America!


    I am not too concerned about gun owners safety in their homes. I hope the are very safe, no pun intended, especially if kids are around. But inevitably the home is the owners responsibility.

    Regarding gun owners transportation of firearms on public transportation and highways - Why there are virtually no checks that "existing gun laws" are being followed, especially in the liberal "no carry" states, is infuriating.
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