America's Gun Violence

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    rssesq said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they so desire.



    Hahaha, that's basically the picture I'm getting of some of these comedians!
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    Just being able to see things, or not see things, doesn't have anything to do with guilt.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Go Beavers said:

    Just being able to see things, or not see things, doesn't have anything to do with guilt.

    It may have to do with schizophrenia or paranoia or delusions or drug use though...
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Just being able to see things, or not see things, doesn't have anything to do with guilt.

    It may have to do with schizophrenia or paranoia or delusions or drug use though...
    Maybe I clicked past where you and unsung posted links to stories of the black guy in Chicago shooting someone in self defense. Or maybe the legal challenge supporting the black guy's second amendment rights. Or it was drugs.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    edited April 2017
    Being aware of racism and questioning the public's perceptions in terms of race and related issues is not white guilt. It is actually possible to be aware (hyper-aware, even) of racial issues within a subject and not feel guilty about having the skin colour commonly called white.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Just being able to see things, or not see things, doesn't have anything to do with guilt.

    It may have to do with schizophrenia or paranoia or delusions or drug use though...
    Maybe I clicked past where you and unsung posted links to stories of the black guy in Chicago shooting someone in self defense. Or maybe the legal challenge supporting the black guy's second amendment rights. Or it was drugs.
    Sounds like media bias to me...I do not see how the lack of stories can be blamed on gun owners...
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Just being able to see things, or not see things, doesn't have anything to do with guilt.

    It may have to do with schizophrenia or paranoia or delusions or drug use though...
    Maybe I clicked past where you and unsung posted links to stories of the black guy in Chicago shooting someone in self defense. Or maybe the legal challenge supporting the black guy's second amendment rights. Or it was drugs.
    Sounds like media bias to me...I do not see how the lack of stories can be blamed on gun owners...
    The lack of reference to black gun owners in the discusssion by the pro-gun side may be bias. The news seems pretty hyped to report on people shooting people with guns. I would think blacks in the cities are using guns for self defense. Maybe no one links those stories just due to random chance.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they do desire.
    I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of inclusion of minorities in the 2nd amendment discussions. I don't see links posted about blacks "protecting their home" with guns. I don't see links to news articles where gun rights are being protected for blacks.
    That is because we don't care about skin color, we care about people having the right to defend themselves how they see fit. As someone that organizes shoots for dozens of people I see many different types. We only stress being safe and having fun.

    FFS, I posted that article and not once did race enter my mind. What did is a family getting their property back from another unjust government action. You guys are getting desperate. Oh, wait another dumbf**k is going to tell me about my overlord. Some of you guys must have boring lives that you find the need to bring race into EVERYTHING.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they do desire.
    I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of inclusion of minorities in the 2nd amendment discussions. I don't see links posted about blacks "protecting their home" with guns. I don't see links to news articles where gun rights are being protected for blacks.
    That is because we don't care about skin color, we care about people having the right to defend themselves how they see fit. As someone that organizes shoots for dozens of people I see many different types. We only stress being safe and having fun.

    FFS, I posted that article and not once did race enter my mind. What did is a family getting their property back from another unjust government action. You guys are getting desperate. Oh, wait another dumbf**k is going to tell me about my overlord. Some of you guys must have boring lives that you find the need to bring race into EVERYTHING.
    Says the guy who thinks white genocide is an actual thing. Race probably didn't enter your mind because the story fits the narrative: Whites with guns keep us safe and are 'heros' ". The opposite prejudice, which isn't always in people's consciousness, is that blacks are dangerous, not to mention blacks with guns.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Another thing... when Illinois finally got on board with concealed carry I was againat the law because of it being racist due to restrictions that would force inner city residents into being unable to afford to get the license due to it being overly expensive and that Chicago was banning gun ranges which you need to qualify. But nobody gave a shit from the democrat side, nobody complained that it was unaffordable even though the same a-holes were the only saying requiring an ID to vote was racist. Nothing to see here. WE are the ones that fight for all to carry, democrats wanted to deny their constituents the Right.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they do desire.
    I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of inclusion of minorities in the 2nd amendment discussions. I don't see links posted about blacks "protecting their home" with guns. I don't see links to news articles where gun rights are being protected for blacks.
    That is because we don't care about skin color, we care about people having the right to defend themselves how they see fit. As someone that organizes shoots for dozens of people I see many different types. We only stress being safe and having fun.

    FFS, I posted that article and not once did race enter my mind. What did is a family getting their property back from another unjust government action. You guys are getting desperate. Oh, wait another dumbf**k is going to tell me about my overlord. Some of you guys must have boring lives that you find the need to bring race into EVERYTHING.
    Yesterday I ate white rice instead of brown rice...oh damn, "RACIST". I think some people are just obsessed with the term and try to apply it to everything...which in some ways takes the heat off of the true white robe wearing neo-nazi racists. The ones keeping racism alive are the ones that use racism as a crutch in every topic of debate.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    PJPOWER said:

    "All the times"? You mean the one time? You're really reaching...I've never heard anyone state that they feel only white people should own firearms.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-nra-internal-revolt-philando-castile-20160709-story.html
    Or
    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/nra-members-furious-philando-castile/
    There is a couple articles about pro-gun people frustrated that the NRA did not do enough, though.

    The NRA is the most useless gun rights organization for actual gun rights. I cancelled my membership years ago and they will never get another dollar from me. They compromise, I don't.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they do desire.
    I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of inclusion of minorities in the 2nd amendment discussions. I don't see links posted about blacks "protecting their home" with guns. I don't see links to news articles where gun rights are being protected for blacks.
    That is because we don't care about skin color, we care about people having the right to defend themselves how they see fit. As someone that organizes shoots for dozens of people I see many different types. We only stress being safe and having fun.

    FFS, I posted that article and not once did race enter my mind. What did is a family getting their property back from another unjust government action. You guys are getting desperate. Oh, wait another dumbf**k is going to tell me about my overlord. Some of you guys must have boring lives that you find the need to bring race into EVERYTHING.
    Yesterday I ate white rice instead of brown rice...oh damn, "RACIST". I think some people are just obsessed with the term and try to apply it to everything...which in some ways takes the heat off of the true white robe wearing neo-nazi racists. The ones keeping racism alive are the ones that use racism as a crutch in every topic of debate.
    Maybe this is directed at me. I don't introduce it in every topic, but it is woven into discussions on crime and guns. And to reserve the discussion of racism only to white robe wearers minimizes the existence of it. But minimizing it seems to be a common theme with some.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2017
    unsung said:

    PJPOWER said:

    "All the times"? You mean the one time? You're really reaching...I've never heard anyone state that they feel only white people should own firearms.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-nra-internal-revolt-philando-castile-20160709-story.html
    Or
    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/nra-members-furious-philando-castile/
    There is a couple articles about pro-gun people frustrated that the NRA did not do enough, though.

    The NRA is the most useless gun rights organization for actual gun rights. I cancelled my membership years ago and they will never get another dollar from me. They compromise, I don't.
    I feel that the NRA only bring attention to the eccentric celebrities of the hunting/firearm owning world and do not accurately represent the actual community very well. There are better organizations out there...
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    You are reaching. How about GOA fighting for the lady that crossed state lines and was arrested because she had a convealed carry that wasn't honored by that State. She was black. Didn't know that? Because it is irrelevant. The story was out there, media reports how they want.
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    It's my fault you love trump?
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    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    edited April 2017
    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    So it is a political system or skin color?

    The article did not mention race, I have no idea what he is. Why is it relevant to you?

    A couple reasons. There's an undercurrent of racism and prejudice in a lot of your posts, and I rarely see the pro-gun people advocate for racial minorities and gun ownership.
    Do you see people on the pro-gun advocate white only gun ownership? You are being ridiculous and try to turn everything into a race thing. I'm pro-gun and advocate any American legally allowed to own firearms to own them regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc etc if they do desire.
    I could be wrong, but I don't see a lot of inclusion of minorities in the 2nd amendment discussions. I don't see links posted about blacks "protecting their home" with guns. I don't see links to news articles where gun rights are being protected for blacks.
    That is because we don't care about skin color, we care about people having the right to defend themselves how they see fit. As someone that organizes shoots for dozens of people I see many different types. We only stress being safe and having fun.

    FFS, I posted that article and not once did race enter my mind. What did is a family getting their property back from another unjust government action. You guys are getting desperate. Oh, wait another dumbf**k is going to tell me about my overlord. Some of you guys must have boring lives that you find the need to bring race into EVERYTHING.
    Says the guy who thinks white genocide is an actual thing. Race probably didn't enter your mind because the story fits the narrative: Whites with guns keep us safe and are 'heros' ". The opposite prejudice, which isn't always in people's consciousness, is that blacks are dangerous, not to mention blacks with guns.
    I have to agree that that seems to be the overall narrative when it comes to the issue of gun rights in America. It's true. I never actually thought about it from that angle before, but now that I am, it seems so obvious that I'm surprised it hadn't occurred to me.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,127
    unsung said:

    You are reaching. How about GOA fighting for the lady that crossed state lines and was arrested because she had a convealed carry that wasn't honored by that State. She was black. Didn't know that? Because it is irrelevant. The story was out there, media reports how they want.

    That happened in the communist state of New Jersey which happens to be my home state.
    On a side note, i see blacks, whites , asians, hispanics, etc. all enjoying time at the range. No one gives two shits about the color of your skin but people only care if you are practicing safe shooting. If you act like a dick you are called out on it regardless of your profession (plenty of cops and soldiers go to my range) or color of your skin.
    Stop making everything into a race issue.
    You want to report about blacks acting in self defense? Get off your butt and get a job where you can do that.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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