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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,548
    BS44325 said:

    I can't imagine Paul becoming a yes vote but he doesn't have to be. The senate can write their own bill and both houses can work out something different in conference. Paul can then be a yes for a bill more to his liking provided reconciliation allows for this. Again I just don't get how Paul thinks he can get a perfect bill...a clean repeal can't happen without 60 votes. He seems to think that letting Obamacare collapse will allow for some future more conservative repeal and replace. That's a massive gamble.
    And I don't see a Senate bill that gets through the conservative wing of the House.

    Btw, I believe they can do this through budget reconciliation, so the hurdle is lower. But the moderate senators are a problem for the House.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,843
    It's hilarious watching the republicans twist in the wind on this. They still have no plan that's even remotely palatable to a majority of their own party, a party with control of all three branches. Why? Because Trump is so far out of his element and lacks any type of leadership. Paul Ryan, while earnest and adept at rolling up his sleeves and using PowerPoint, is also way out of his element. What these guys don't seem to understand is that this shit is hard, insert Trump's first week quote here, and that having a plan that's been thought through and formulated and vetted by EXPERTS in the field, prior to making it a campaign slogan, is the way to lead. Criticize the ACA all you want but give Obama and Clinton before him credit for at least being an adult about the prospect of the legislation and being serious about what they were trying to accomplish. Trump and his ilk? Not so much. Good fucking luck if you don't have health insurance or were able to get it via the ACA. Or, don't get sick. Brilliance at its finest.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    It's hilarious watching the republicans twist in the wind on this. They still have no plan that's even remotely palatable to a majority of their own party, a party with control of all three branches. Why? Because Trump is so far out of his element and lacks any type of leadership. Paul Ryan, while earnest and adept at rolling up his sleeves and using PowerPoint, is also way out of his element. What these guys don't seem to understand is that this shit is hard, insert Trump's first week quote here, and that having a plan that's been thought through and formulated and vetted by EXPERTS in the field, prior to making it a campaign slogan, is the way to lead. Criticize the ACA all you want but give Obama and Clinton before him credit for at least being an adult about the prospect of the legislation and being serious about what they were trying to accomplish. Trump and his ilk? Not so much. Good fucking luck if you don't have health insurance or were able to get it via the ACA. Or, don't get sick. Brilliance at its finest.

    Ha. It must be alien for you to witness an intra-party argument over ideological principals. Obama gets credit for having 60 votes in the senate at the time as well as a party that was willing to walk lock step to their electoral grave under the banner of "if you like your plan you can keep it"...that's about it. The Obamacare collapse is coming...it is only a matter of when and as to who gets the blame. Other then your EXPERTS of course.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,399
    And when it collapses we'll defer to the Canadian experts!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,843
    BS44325 said:

    Ha. It must be alien for you to witness an intra-party argument over ideological principals. Obama gets credit for having 60 votes in the senate at the time as well as a party that was willing to walk lock step to their electoral grave under the banner of "if you like your plan you can keep it"...that's about it. The Obamacare collapse is coming...it is only a matter of when and as to who gets the blame. Other then your EXPERTS of course.
    Fake news. What is this imminent collapse that you speak of? Southern states' refusal to expand Medicare? Corporate healthcare being allowed to pull out of markets a la "let the markets decide?" Ever hear of Romneycare? Seems to work really well but Obama put his black Muslim socialist Kenyan name on it and white nationalists ran for the hills. But you, residing in a country with socialized medicine, peers down your nose and wishes the free markets would decide instead. Brilliant in its hillariousness. What is even more hilarious though is that you think Trump and his ilk have even given the replacement an iota of serious thought. You, professor, are wrong yet again. But spin baby spin. Has anyone asked Sister Sarah her opinion? You know, death panels and all?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,843
    BS44325 said:

    Ha. It must be alien for you to witness an intra-party argument over ideological principals. Obama gets credit for having 60 votes in the senate at the time as well as a party that was willing to walk lock step to their electoral grave under the banner of "if you like your plan you can keep it"...that's about it. The Obamacare collapse is coming...it is only a matter of when and as to who gets the blame. Other then your EXPERTS of course.
    20 million more Americans with health care under ACA versus Trump's plan of 26 million more without by 2026. Brilliant.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,843
    BS44325 said:

    Ha. It must be alien for you to witness an intra-party argument over ideological principals. Obama gets credit for having 60 votes in the senate at the time as well as a party that was willing to walk lock step to their electoral grave under the banner of "if you like your plan you can keep it"...that's about it. The Obamacare collapse is coming...it is only a matter of when and as to who gets the blame. Other then your EXPERTS of course.
    Upheld by a republican dominated Supreme Court by the way, professor.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,843
    BS44325 said:

    Ha. It must be alien for you to witness an intra-party argument over ideological principals. Obama gets credit for having 60 votes in the senate at the time as well as a party that was willing to walk lock step to their electoral grave under the banner of "if you like your plan you can keep it"...that's about it. The Obamacare collapse is coming...it is only a matter of when and as to who gets the blame. Other then your EXPERTS of course.
    Yea, because Trump has experts advising his administration. Like Rick Perry at DOE? Or Rex baby at State? Or Ivanka? Didn't the CBO come out with ACA projections preserving Medicare/Medicaid? Because you know, the future beyond the next election cycle MIGHT matter.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,843
    I need a tweet! Just one tweet! C'mon, man, who's got the tweets? I'm scratching here!
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    I like dots.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,059

    Yea, because Trump has experts advising his administration. Like Rick Perry at DOE? Or Rex baby at State? Or Ivanka? Didn't the CBO come out with ACA projections preserving Medicare/Medicaid? Because you know, the future beyond the next election cycle MIGHT matter.
    Next election cycle? I don't think the brain surgeons (other then Doctor Ben Carson...he's only invited to events where black people are) in the OF's administration literally consider anything past 3 days into the future. Maybe less.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,236
    Huh...... this was just reported by the AP.

    I'm sure it's all just a coincidence though.

    "WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to advance the interests of Russian President Vladimir Putin a decade ago and proposed an ambitious political strategy to undermine anti-Russian opposition across former Soviet republics, The Associated Press has learned. The work appears to contradict assertions by the Trump administration and Manafort himself that he never worked for Russian interests.

    Manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan as early as June 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the United States, Europe and the former Soviet republics to benefit the Putin government, even as U.S.-Russia relations under Republican President George W. Bush grew worse. Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work."

    https://www.apnews.com/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a/Manafort's-plan-to-'greatly-benefit-the-Putin-Government?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    Tiki said:

    Next election cycle? I don't think the brain surgeons (other then Doctor Ben Carson...he's only invited to events where black people are) in the OF's administration literally consider anything past 3 days into the future. Maybe less.
    The next election cycle is ALL they think about, on both sides.

    Most politicians are cowards, not leaders
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    So... Tillerson is skipping the NATO meeting and visiting Russia instead?

    LOL
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,059

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    my2hands said:



    The next election cycle is ALL they think about, on both sides.

    Most politicians are cowards, not leaders
    Cowards who enjoy power or even worse enjoy being around power.

    Just one of many...



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/21/1645727/-Peter-King-Trumpcare-will-cost-my-state-2-3-billion-a-year-Trump-noticed-me-so-I-m-with-him

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,059

    Huh...... this was just reported by the AP.

    I'm sure it's all just a coincidence though.

    "WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to advance the interests of Russian President Vladimir Putin a decade ago and proposed an ambitious political strategy to undermine anti-Russian opposition across former Soviet republics, The Associated Press has learned. The work appears to contradict assertions by the Trump administration and Manafort himself that he never worked for Russian interests.

    Manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan as early as June 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the United States, Europe and the former Soviet republics to benefit the Putin government, even as U.S.-Russia relations under Republican President George W. Bush grew worse. Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work."

    https://www.apnews.com/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a/Manafort's-plan-to-'greatly-benefit-the-Putin-Government?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

    We keep waiting for the wooden stake, the silver bullet, the one thing that's going to bring this President down.
    Is this it? I see $$ and I see RUSSIA .

    Our man at State, Tillerson, is up to his nutsac in big money big oil Russian ties, too.

    OLD BUT...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/12/13/inside-rex-tillersons-long-romance-with-russia/?utm_term=.701901a88d4f
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited March 2017
    Tom Brokaw: "We are 60 days in and there are lit fuses everywhere"

    popcorn futures! lol
  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, Y tus violadores sucios también

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB7b_ZKwar8

    don't look for this story on msnbc, abc, or cbs
    #FAKENEWS
  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299

  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,198
    rssesq said:

    “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, Y tus violadores sucios también

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB7b_ZKwar8

    don't look for this story on msnbc, abc, or cbs
    #FAKENEWS

    That video is literally taken from a #FAKENEWS ABC affiliate in Washington DC. It took me less then a minute to track the source down.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,843
    rssesq said:

    “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, Y tus violadores sucios también

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB7b_ZKwar8

    don't look for this story on msnbc, abc, or cbs
    #FAKENEWS

    Queue the faux outrage.
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  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    local news only. they aren't that stupid.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,843
    rssesq said:

    local news only. they aren't that stupid.

    Care to list all the press agencies that cover Spicer's fake news press conferences? Seeing how he raised the issue yesterday? And it's in the WaPo website today?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,548
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    rssesq said:

    local news only. they aren't that stupid.

    Holy crap.. are you saying that the national news isn't reporting on a local rape story? Why that is SO biased. I mean every other rape and sexual assault is the lead on NBC Nightly News. In fact, Walter Cronkite used to read the names of all rape victims of the previous 24 hours to lead the newscast. Fucking liberal media.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,236
    Jason P said:

    That video is literally taken from a #FAKENEWS ABC affiliate in Washington DC. It took me less then a minute to track the source down.
    Lol

    In other news, it's funny to hear how insignificant Manafort was for the Trump campaign. Newt was singing a different tune last year.



    "Nobody should underestimate how much Paul Manafort did to get this campaign to where it is right now."

    It's too funny to see the lemmings going to bat for the GOP, present company included.

    It's also shameful.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,855
    rssesq said:

    local news only. they aren't that stupid.

    It's gonna be a looooong national newscast if they run the stories of every sexual assault in the country every day.......
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:

    Holy crap.. are you saying that the national news isn't reporting on a local rape story? Why that is SO biased. I mean every other rape and sexual assault is the lead on NBC Nightly News. In fact, Walter Cronkite used to read the names of all rape victims of the previous 24 hours to lead the newscast. Fucking liberal media.
    lol
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