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So you are arguing that the majority of Americans are worse off today than they were say 30, 40, 50 years ago? I'm just wondering what is the primary driver that you believe requires the burning?Idris said:
Unfortunately the house is already burning down. Its been happening for awhile now.dignin said:
I would rather not burn my house to the ground to take care of a cockroach problem.Idris said:
When things really get bad, change happens.my2hands said:
Turn on your television to anything except fox news...Idris said:
I asked *how is Trump a disaster. I wanted more views/thoughts on it.my2hands said:
How about you tell us how he is NOT a disaster?Idris said:
How is he a disaster?my2hands said:
Trump is a fucking disaster bro, wake up and smell the spray tanGodfather. said:sometimes I wonder why people feel they need to create so much drama in their own lives ? everything any high ranking official says is twisted by the media and especially social media outlets, wrong doing and things said are acceptable for some but not for others and it all really boils down to the individual, are people so desperate for attention and drama they will make up stories or believe stories about a public official ?, most people who discus politics' have no idea how the political system works (me included) I mean really works !
then there are the people who have been "trained" or conditioned (not an easy crime to master) to receive state or federally funded benefits who couldn't imagine having to go to work for a living and then complain when those beni's are threatened because they may need to take a piss test to keep receiving those beni's.
I wasn't a Obama fan and most train members thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread, yes he did some good things but I never complained about him the way most train members complain about President Trump, this entitlement attitude that seems to run wild within the democratic/liberal party is embarrassing to watch and listen to, I guess a persons moral standards have little meaning these days.
I need a good laugh
Sell me on the Trump presidency
It's up to us now to make sure the *change that happens is beneficial for all people.
We (generally) become apathetic under the dems. But perhaps now with our dear leader Trump, we'll put our anger into positive actions, From the ground up, a new day.
Let it burn and build again.0 -
Who did you support/vote for during the last 5 elections?mrussel1 said:
So you are arguing that the majority of Americans are worse off today than they were say 30, 40, 50 years ago? I'm just wondering what is the primary driver that you believe requires the burning?Idris said:
Unfortunately the house is already burning down. Its been happening for awhile now.dignin said:
I would rather not burn my house to the ground to take care of a cockroach problem.Idris said:
When things really get bad, change happens.my2hands said:
Turn on your television to anything except fox news...Idris said:
I asked *how is Trump a disaster. I wanted more views/thoughts on it.my2hands said:
How about you tell us how he is NOT a disaster?Idris said:
How is he a disaster?my2hands said:
Trump is a fucking disaster bro, wake up and smell the spray tanGodfather. said:sometimes I wonder why people feel they need to create so much drama in their own lives ? everything any high ranking official says is twisted by the media and especially social media outlets, wrong doing and things said are acceptable for some but not for others and it all really boils down to the individual, are people so desperate for attention and drama they will make up stories or believe stories about a public official ?, most people who discus politics' have no idea how the political system works (me included) I mean really works !
then there are the people who have been "trained" or conditioned (not an easy crime to master) to receive state or federally funded benefits who couldn't imagine having to go to work for a living and then complain when those beni's are threatened because they may need to take a piss test to keep receiving those beni's.
I wasn't a Obama fan and most train members thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread, yes he did some good things but I never complained about him the way most train members complain about President Trump, this entitlement attitude that seems to run wild within the democratic/liberal party is embarrassing to watch and listen to, I guess a persons moral standards have little meaning these days.
I need a good laugh
Sell me on the Trump presidency
It's up to us now to make sure the *change that happens is beneficial for all people.
We (generally) become apathetic under the dems. But perhaps now with our dear leader Trump, we'll put our anger into positive actions, From the ground up, a new day.
Let it burn and build again.0 -
I'm not really sure how that's relevant to my question.. Some of my candidates have won, some have lost.Idris said:
Who did you support/vote for during the last 5 elections?mrussel1 said:
So you are arguing that the majority of Americans are worse off today than they were say 30, 40, 50 years ago? I'm just wondering what is the primary driver that you believe requires the burning?Idris said:
Unfortunately the house is already burning down. Its been happening for awhile now.dignin said:
I would rather not burn my house to the ground to take care of a cockroach problem.Idris said:
When things really get bad, change happens.my2hands said:
Turn on your television to anything except fox news...Idris said:
I asked *how is Trump a disaster. I wanted more views/thoughts on it.my2hands said:
How about you tell us how he is NOT a disaster?Idris said:
How is he a disaster?my2hands said:
Trump is a fucking disaster bro, wake up and smell the spray tanGodfather. said:sometimes I wonder why people feel they need to create so much drama in their own lives ? everything any high ranking official says is twisted by the media and especially social media outlets, wrong doing and things said are acceptable for some but not for others and it all really boils down to the individual, are people so desperate for attention and drama they will make up stories or believe stories about a public official ?, most people who discus politics' have no idea how the political system works (me included) I mean really works !
then there are the people who have been "trained" or conditioned (not an easy crime to master) to receive state or federally funded benefits who couldn't imagine having to go to work for a living and then complain when those beni's are threatened because they may need to take a piss test to keep receiving those beni's.
I wasn't a Obama fan and most train members thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread, yes he did some good things but I never complained about him the way most train members complain about President Trump, this entitlement attitude that seems to run wild within the democratic/liberal party is embarrassing to watch and listen to, I guess a persons moral standards have little meaning these days.
I need a good laugh
Sell me on the Trump presidency
It's up to us now to make sure the *change that happens is beneficial for all people.
We (generally) become apathetic under the dems. But perhaps now with our dear leader Trump, we'll put our anger into positive actions, From the ground up, a new day.
Let it burn and build again.
But I'm curious as to what metric/standard/measure are most concerned about that you think has deteriorated to the point where we need to burn the house down? Is it real wages, poverty, unemployment, education level, life expectancy, mortality rate.. what is it? Because I would argue that by any measure that I can think of, we are better off as a nation today than we were in the 50s, 60, 70s. etc.0 -
Awesome.. Trump is tweeting while watching the hearings.. Doesn't he have anything better to do than watch TV on a Monday afternoon? He is the president.. I would think there was SOMETHING else he could do to be more productive.0
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To be fair, if my entire presidential administration were on the verge of collapse, I'd probably be watching too.mrussel1 said:Awesome.. Trump is tweeting while watching the hearings.. Doesn't he have anything better to do than watch TV on a Monday afternoon? He is the president.. I would think there was SOMETHING else he could do to be more productive.
Or golfing. I might be golfing.everybody wants the most they can possibly get
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yeah.. I'd be golfing too.. great point.slightofjeff said:
To be fair, if my entire presidential administration were on the verge of collapse, I'd probably be watching too.mrussel1 said:Awesome.. Trump is tweeting while watching the hearings.. Doesn't he have anything better to do than watch TV on a Monday afternoon? He is the president.. I would think there was SOMETHING else he could do to be more productive.
Or golfing. I might be golfing.0 -
Because 1) who flies a Confederate flag but a racist? And don't give me this "pride of the south" bullshit. I've never, in my lifetime, met a Confederate flag bearer that wasn't a racist.Idris said:
Why?Tiki said:THAT'S interesting.
And 2) because the same people flying Confederate flags are the first to utter "get over it, you lost." Bit of irony, there, don't ya think?Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
It's relevant. How someone votes is important, Because it shows more than whatever they may post on a msg forum.mrussel1 said:
I'm not really sure how that's relevant to my question.. Some of my candidates have won, some have lost.Idris said:
Who did you support/vote for during the last 5 elections?mrussel1 said:
So you are arguing that the majority of Americans are worse off today than they were say 30, 40, 50 years ago? I'm just wondering what is the primary driver that you believe requires the burning?Idris said:
Unfortunately the house is already burning down. Its been happening for awhile now.dignin said:
I would rather not burn my house to the ground to take care of a cockroach problem.Idris said:
When things really get bad, change happens.my2hands said:
Turn on your television to anything except fox news...Idris said:
I asked *how is Trump a disaster. I wanted more views/thoughts on it.my2hands said:
How about you tell us how he is NOT a disaster?Idris said:
How is he a disaster?my2hands said:
Trump is a fucking disaster bro, wake up and smell the spray tanGodfather. said:sometimes I wonder why people feel they need to create so much drama in their own lives ? everything any high ranking official says is twisted by the media and especially social media outlets, wrong doing and things said are acceptable for some but not for others and it all really boils down to the individual, are people so desperate for attention and drama they will make up stories or believe stories about a public official ?, most people who discus politics' have no idea how the political system works (me included) I mean really works !
then there are the people who have been "trained" or conditioned (not an easy crime to master) to receive state or federally funded benefits who couldn't imagine having to go to work for a living and then complain when those beni's are threatened because they may need to take a piss test to keep receiving those beni's.
I wasn't a Obama fan and most train members thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread, yes he did some good things but I never complained about him the way most train members complain about President Trump, this entitlement attitude that seems to run wild within the democratic/liberal party is embarrassing to watch and listen to, I guess a persons moral standards have little meaning these days.
I need a good laugh
Sell me on the Trump presidency
It's up to us now to make sure the *change that happens is beneficial for all people.
We (generally) become apathetic under the dems. But perhaps now with our dear leader Trump, we'll put our anger into positive actions, From the ground up, a new day.
Let it burn and build again.
But I'm curious as to what metric/standard/measure are most concerned about that you think has deteriorated to the point where we need to burn the house down? Is it real wages, poverty, unemployment, education level, life expectancy, mortality rate.. what is it? Because I would argue that by any measure that I can think of, we are better off as a nation today than we were in the 50s, 60, 70s. etc.
We talk about justice and peace. But Do we actually practice it? (that's an example)
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That's a big nothing-burger...Idris said:
When things really get bad, change happens.my2hands said:
Turn on your television to anything except fox news...Idris said:
I asked *how is Trump a disaster. I wanted more views/thoughts on it.my2hands said:
How about you tell us how he is NOT a disaster?Idris said:
How is he a disaster?my2hands said:
Trump is a fucking disaster bro, wake up and smell the spray tanGodfather. said:sometimes I wonder why people feel they need to create so much drama in their own lives ? everything any high ranking official says is twisted by the media and especially social media outlets, wrong doing and things said are acceptable for some but not for others and it all really boils down to the individual, are people so desperate for attention and drama they will make up stories or believe stories about a public official ?, most people who discus politics' have no idea how the political system works (me included) I mean really works !
then there are the people who have been "trained" or conditioned (not an easy crime to master) to receive state or federally funded benefits who couldn't imagine having to go to work for a living and then complain when those beni's are threatened because they may need to take a piss test to keep receiving those beni's.
I wasn't a Obama fan and most train members thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread, yes he did some good things but I never complained about him the way most train members complain about President Trump, this entitlement attitude that seems to run wild within the democratic/liberal party is embarrassing to watch and listen to, I guess a persons moral standards have little meaning these days.
I need a good laugh
Sell me on the Trump presidency
It's up to us now to make sure the *change that happens is beneficial for all people.
We (generally) become apathetic under the dems. But perhaps now with our dear leader Trump, we'll put our anger into positive actions, From the ground up, a new day.
Can you get a little more specific on how Trump has not been a disaster... what specifically do you like and support so far? this should be easy for you0 -
Would you just answer the man's question? It's very simple (and way more relevant than the question you posed back) - what signs are you seeing to suggest that America was a building on fire when Donald Trump came along?Idris said:
It's relevant. How someone votes is important, Because it shows more than whatever they may post on a msg forum.mrussel1 said:
I'm not really sure how that's relevant to my question.. Some of my candidates have won, some have lost.Idris said:
Who did you support/vote for during the last 5 elections?mrussel1 said:
So you are arguing that the majority of Americans are worse off today than they were say 30, 40, 50 years ago? I'm just wondering what is the primary driver that you believe requires the burning?Idris said:
Unfortunately the house is already burning down. Its been happening for awhile now.dignin said:
I would rather not burn my house to the ground to take care of a cockroach problem.Idris said:
When things really get bad, change happens.my2hands said:
Turn on your television to anything except fox news...Idris said:
I asked *how is Trump a disaster. I wanted more views/thoughts on it.my2hands said:
How about you tell us how he is NOT a disaster?Idris said:
How is he a disaster?my2hands said:
Trump is a fucking disaster bro, wake up and smell the spray tanGodfather. said:sometimes I wonder why people feel they need to create so much drama in their own lives ? everything any high ranking official says is twisted by the media and especially social media outlets, wrong doing and things said are acceptable for some but not for others and it all really boils down to the individual, are people so desperate for attention and drama they will make up stories or believe stories about a public official ?, most people who discus politics' have no idea how the political system works (me included) I mean really works !
then there are the people who have been "trained" or conditioned (not an easy crime to master) to receive state or federally funded benefits who couldn't imagine having to go to work for a living and then complain when those beni's are threatened because they may need to take a piss test to keep receiving those beni's.
I wasn't a Obama fan and most train members thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread, yes he did some good things but I never complained about him the way most train members complain about President Trump, this entitlement attitude that seems to run wild within the democratic/liberal party is embarrassing to watch and listen to, I guess a persons moral standards have little meaning these days.
I need a good laugh
Sell me on the Trump presidency
It's up to us now to make sure the *change that happens is beneficial for all people.
We (generally) become apathetic under the dems. But perhaps now with our dear leader Trump, we'll put our anger into positive actions, From the ground up, a new day.
Let it burn and build again.
But I'm curious as to what metric/standard/measure are most concerned about that you think has deteriorated to the point where we need to burn the house down? Is it real wages, poverty, unemployment, education level, life expectancy, mortality rate.. what is it? Because I would argue that by any measure that I can think of, we are better off as a nation today than we were in the 50s, 60, 70s. etc.
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I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?0
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"We now know that Trump lied about Obama and UK wiretapping. Whether his campaign collaborated with Russia is under investigation by the FBI."
This is what transpired today.
Good stuff.0 -
It's starts with the Vote. Sorry. It's matters.0
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Sure.Go Beavers said:I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?
Lets see, Electoral college, Yes or no?0 -
But I thought there would not be any more headlines or investigations of the Trump campaign's ties to Russia because, well, because of the brilliance of Trump, the man, the candidate and president and of those he surrounded himself with?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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The fire started on Jan 20th.Go Beavers said:I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/02/23/stephen_bannon_pillar_of_trumps_platform_is_deconstruction_of_the_administrative_state.html
MAGA bitches.
https://youtu.be/eFTLKWw542g
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So much for the theory of no more headlines.
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and his numerous successes in the business world, too like Trump Casinos and Trump University. so good at business.Halifax2TheMax said:But I thought there would not be any more headlines or investigations of the Trump campaign's ties to Russia because, well, because of the brilliance of Trump, the man, the candidate and president and of those he surrounded himself with?
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