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Halifax2TheMax

Comey asked if Paul Manafort is the subject of his investigation. He said he would not comment.

Oh, how the caged bird may sing.

Bentleyspop

Trump drops 220 spots on the Forbes Billionaires List. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwiJq40DQ

Idris

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?

Sure.

Lets see, Electoral college, Yes or no?

Not sure questioning the Electoral College is exactly burning things to the ground.

Are you for it or not? Also, what's your voting record ?

That's his business and not yours to ask about. There's a reason why partition walls and curtains exist in the voting booths.

He's not a random person I bumped into and started asking about how he votes . We are trying to have a discussion and these questions are pertinent.

I've read through the thread. I know the pretense. Regardless, aside from pure ignorance it is an invasion of privacy to ask how someone votes. If that person offers up their voter history without being asked, that's up to them to decide. I just don't take kindly to people asking others how they voted because it's none of their damn business.

You don't take kindly to it? Well I don't really care.

Wait Are you the type of person who where's the *I voted* sticker then when asked *who'd yah vote for?..Then Freaks out "OMG non of your business you ignorant bastard!"

Perhaps you are.

ledvedderman

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?

Sure.

Lets see, Electoral college, Yes or no?

Not sure questioning the Electoral College is exactly burning things to the ground.

Are you for it or not? Also, what's your voting record ?

That's his business and not yours to ask about. There's a reason why partition walls and curtains exist in the voting booths.

He's not a random person I bumped into and started asking about how he votes . We are trying to have a discussion and these questions are pertinent.

I've read through the thread. I know the pretense. Regardless, aside from pure ignorance it is an invasion of privacy to ask how someone votes. If that person offers up their voter history without being asked, that's up to them to decide. I just don't take kindly to people asking others how they voted because it's none of their damn business.

You don't take kindly to it? Well I don't really care.

Wait Are you the type of person who where's the *I voted* sticker then when asked *who'd yah vote for?..Then Freaks out "OMG non of your business you ignorant bastard!"

Perhaps you are.

I can't speak for the others, but I wear the sticker as an advertisement that it's Election Day in hopes that it reminds some people to vote. I don't wear it to talk politics. I think you're grossly missing the point.

Idris

ledvedderman said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?

Sure.

Lets see, Electoral college, Yes or no?

Not sure questioning the Electoral College is exactly burning things to the ground.

Are you for it or not? Also, what's your voting record ?

That's his business and not yours to ask about. There's a reason why partition walls and curtains exist in the voting booths.

He's not a random person I bumped into and started asking about how he votes . We are trying to have a discussion and these questions are pertinent.

I've read through the thread. I know the pretense. Regardless, aside from pure ignorance it is an invasion of privacy to ask how someone votes. If that person offers up their voter history without being asked, that's up to them to decide. I just don't take kindly to people asking others how they voted because it's none of their damn business.

You don't take kindly to it? Well I don't really care.

Wait Are you the type of person who where's the *I voted* sticker then when asked *who'd yah vote for?..Then Freaks out "OMG non of your business you ignorant bastard!"

Perhaps you are.

I can't speak for the others, but I wear the sticker as an advertisement that it's Election Day in hopes that it reminds some people to vote. I don't wear it to talk politics. I think you're grossly missing the point.

I used the sticker as a quick example. Your reasoning is fair enough. I didn't mean everyone who wears the sticker is like that.

Idris

ledvedderman said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?

Sure.

Lets see, Electoral college, Yes or no?

Not sure questioning the Electoral College is exactly burning things to the ground.

Are you for it or not? Also, what's your voting record ?

That's his business and not yours to ask about. There's a reason why partition walls and curtains exist in the voting booths.

He's not a random person I bumped into and started asking about how he votes . We are trying to have a discussion and these questions are pertinent.

I've read through the thread. I know the pretense. Regardless, aside from pure ignorance it is an invasion of privacy to ask how someone votes. If that person offers up their voter history without being asked, that's up to them to decide. I just don't take kindly to people asking others how they voted because it's none of their damn business.

You don't take kindly to it? Well I don't really care.

Wait Are you the type of person who where's the *I voted* sticker then when asked *who'd yah vote for?..Then Freaks out "OMG non of your business you ignorant bastard!"

Perhaps you are.

I can't speak for the others, but I wear the sticker as an advertisement that it's Election Day in hopes that it reminds some people to vote. I don't wear it to talk politics. I think you're grossly missing the point.

Also if you need to remind someone that it's election day. They probably shouldn't be voting in the first place.

ledvedderman

I don't see it that way at all. Millions of people don't eat, sleep, and breathe politics- it doesn't equate to being uninformed and they still are allowed an equal vote as anyone else.

mrussel1

Idris said:

ledvedderman said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?

Sure.

Lets see, Electoral college, Yes or no?

Not sure questioning the Electoral College is exactly burning things to the ground.

Are you for it or not? Also, what's your voting record ?

That's his business and not yours to ask about. There's a reason why partition walls and curtains exist in the voting booths.

He's not a random person I bumped into and started asking about how he votes . We are trying to have a discussion and these questions are pertinent.

I've read through the thread. I know the pretense. Regardless, aside from pure ignorance it is an invasion of privacy to ask how someone votes. If that person offers up their voter history without being asked, that's up to them to decide. I just don't take kindly to people asking others how they voted because it's none of their damn business.

You don't take kindly to it? Well I don't really care.

Wait Are you the type of person who where's the *I voted* sticker then when asked *who'd yah vote for?..Then Freaks out "OMG non of your business you ignorant bastard!"

Perhaps you are.

I can't speak for the others, but I wear the sticker as an advertisement that it's Election Day in hopes that it reminds some people to vote. I don't wear it to talk politics. I think you're grossly missing the point.

Also if you need to remind someone that it's election day. They probably shouldn't be voting in the first place.

Okay, I'll play your game. I voted for Clinton in 96, Gore, Kerry, Obama. I'm a Democrat. I'm economically moderate and socially liberal. I vote social polices more than I vote my wallet. I would call myself a Rob Dreher kind of guy, generally when it comes to international affairs. I believe Kennedy and his Best and the Brightest fucked us up for more than a generation. Anything else about my moral center you'd like to know, and I'd be happy to tell you.

Now, please explain how this assists you in describing the key metric, indicator, stat, whatever that shows that the general population (read: majority) are so much worse off today than they were 20-50 years ago that would necessitate burning down the house. Please. Explain the comment.

my2hands

mrussel1 said:

Idris said:

ledvedderman said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?

Sure.

Lets see, Electoral college, Yes or no?

Not sure questioning the Electoral College is exactly burning things to the ground.

Are you for it or not? Also, what's your voting record ?

That's his business and not yours to ask about. There's a reason why partition walls and curtains exist in the voting booths.

He's not a random person I bumped into and started asking about how he votes . We are trying to have a discussion and these questions are pertinent.

I've read through the thread. I know the pretense. Regardless, aside from pure ignorance it is an invasion of privacy to ask how someone votes. If that person offers up their voter history without being asked, that's up to them to decide. I just don't take kindly to people asking others how they voted because it's none of their damn business.

You don't take kindly to it? Well I don't really care.

Wait Are you the type of person who where's the *I voted* sticker then when asked *who'd yah vote for?..Then Freaks out "OMG non of your business you ignorant bastard!"

Perhaps you are.

I can't speak for the others, but I wear the sticker as an advertisement that it's Election Day in hopes that it reminds some people to vote. I don't wear it to talk politics. I think you're grossly missing the point.

Also if you need to remind someone that it's election day. They probably shouldn't be voting in the first place.

Okay, I'll play your game. I voted for Clinton in 96, Gore, Kerry, Obama. I'm a Democrat. I'm economically moderate and socially liberal. I vote social polices more than I vote my wallet. I would call myself a Rob Dreher kind of guy, generally when it comes to international affairs. I believe Kennedy and his Best and the Brightest fucked us up for more than a generation. Anything else about my moral center you'd like to know, and I'd be happy to tell you.

Now, please explain how this assists you in describing the key metric, indicator, stat, whatever that shows that the general population (read: majority) are so much worse off today than they were 20-50 years ago that would necessitate burning down the house. Please. Explain the comment.

a black liberal democrat was president...

pass the gasoline and hand me a match

my2hands

The Trump-Russia Story Has Only Just Begun (To Explode)

Not since Richard Nixon’s Watergate scandal has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal peril.

By Howard Fineman

WASHINGTON ― Let’s step back for a minute and consider again what we saw Monday in a hearing room of the U.S. House.

The director of the FBI, with the director of the National Security Agency agreeing at his side, in effect called the president of the United States a liar ― and, oh, by the way, the president’s 2016 campaign indeed is under investigation for allegedly having secretly teamed up with Russia to win the election.

After two months of Donald J. Trump’s presidency and more than a year of his campaign, our political senses are so dulled by tumult that we can barely recognize history when we see it. Make no mistake. Monday’s hearing was all but unprecedented.

Not since a White House aide named Alexander Butterfield told the Watergate committee in 1973 that President Richard Nixon had bugged his own Oval Office has an investigative hearing made it so clear that a presidency was in serious legal jeopardy.

Now we know for sure that, while no one “tapped” Trump’s phones, his campaign circle is in the gunsights of the FBI. The issue is whether Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose interference in the 2016 election is now an accepted fact, tried to rig the outcome with the knowledge or collusion of Team Trump.

Foreign countries have meddled in U.S. politics from the founding of the republic. At the dawn of the 19th century, France and Britain fought what amounted to a proxy war between U.S. allies of the two countries. France and Britain aided opposite sites in the Civil War. German interests spread propaganda here to try to keep America from fighting in World War I and World War II. And of course, the Soviet Union infested the State Department and other portions of the U.S. government during the Cold War.

But it is highly unlikely that a foreign government ever has been under investigation for direct ties to and direct ― and successful ― efforts to aid a presidential candidate, especially one now serving as president, and who has expressed such interest in better relations with the government under investigation.

While Democrats probed FBI Director James Comey and NSA Director Michael Rogers for evidence of links between Trump and Russia, Republicans sought to change the conversation by asking about leaks pertaining to Trump and Russia. Comey insisted he was concerned about the leaks, but seemed more eager to ominously deny comment on where the unauthorized disclosures were coming from.

If Team Trump is found to be complicit in any way, leading figures in the campaign and in the White House would indeed become targets of law enforcement. The White House and its minions will howl about “FAKE NEWS” ― the president did so via Twitter Monday morning ― but even Fox was covering the House hearing.

Which, in turn, means this story is just beginning. Here’s why:

•“The Community.” That’s the reverent term of art that Rogers and Comey used Monday to describe the alphabet soup of agencies that handle national security and investigations of breaches. As Rogers and Comey described it, the entire “community” regards Russia as perhaps the leading global “adversary” of the U.S. What the two men did not say ― but clearly believe ― is that the allegations about the campaign could lead to deeper questions about Trump’s global game plan ― and whether that plan, presuming he has one, is itself a threat to national security. “The Community” is not going to give in or give up.

•Wikileaks. The Community seethes at the mention of WikiLeaks, which Rogers and Comey said Russian hackers had used as a conduit for making compromising Democratic emails public. The Community wants to nail WikiLeaks, or a least make an example of forces who use it in this fashion.

•Ukraine. Putin’s invasion of Crimea, and his longtime strong-arming of Ukraine politics, is now coming with a price as what’s left of Ukrainian nationalism fights a rear-guard action ― not in Kiev so much as in Washington. It is more than possible that Putin has been too cute by half, because independent Ukrainian investigators have dug into the record of Trump associates such as former campaign manager Paul Manafort, and are feeding the results to the American media and American agencies. Can Putin shut them down altogether? The more attention this gets in the U.S., the harder that will be.

•FARA. It’s the Foreign Agent Registration Act, and judging from the opaque denials from Comey, it seems clear that the FBI is investigating violations of it by Manafort and by Michael Flynn, Trump’s former campaign adviser and, briefly, until he was ousted for lying about his Russia ties, national security adviser. Manafort worked with pro-Putin Ukrainians; Flynn took money from Russian television, effectively an arm of the Putin regime. White House spokesman Sean Spicer claimed Monday that Manafort had played a “limited” role in the campaign. That is a flat-out lie. Manafort ran the campaign from the spring of 2016 ― to the extent anyone could actually run it ― until after the GOP convention.

•The Squeeze. If and when FBI agents get Manafort or Flynn in their vise, they will climb up the chain by turning targets into witnesses. What do Manafort and Flynn know about, say, Trump and his dealings with Russia? Probably a lot. And that it where things could go next, depending on what the FBI really has.

•GOP. Republican leaders had the Russia story, and they are not eager to push the line that it is a good thing to be in bed with Putin. You haven’t ― and won’t ― see Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) getting in the way of the FBI freight train. They tend to agree that Russia is an enemy.

•Comey. In the 2016, Comey may well have helped Trump by announcing that he had revived an investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private emails. Having zigged in one direction, he is now zagging in the other, after the fact. He has more than six years left in his term, and is not likely to go anywhere anytime soon. He may be an umpire following one bad call with another, but he is not about to leave the field of play. And Comey made it clear Monday that he was speaking out with the approval of the Department of Justice – which means Attorney General Jeff Sessions. History buffs will hear the echoes of Watergate. Nixon sealed his own doom by demanding that Justice fire the man investigating him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-russia-comey_us_58d01dd6e4b0be71dcf6e972?6o6&

Halifax2TheMax

What was that about burning down the house?

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2017/03/20/man-burns-house-kills-pets-while-trying-to-exterminate-ants

Halifax2TheMax

What was that about burning down the house?

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2017/03/20/man-burns-house-kills-pets-while-trying-to-exterminate-ants

HesCalledDyer

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

Idris said:

Go Beavers said:

I'm just trying to figure out what we're supposed to burn to the ground? Our faith in democracy?

Sure.

Lets see, Electoral college, Yes or no?

Not sure questioning the Electoral College is exactly burning things to the ground.

Are you for it or not? Also, what's your voting record ?

That's his business and not yours to ask about. There's a reason why partition walls and curtains exist in the voting booths.

He's not a random person I bumped into and started asking about how he votes . We are trying to have a discussion and these questions are pertinent.

I've read through the thread. I know the pretense. Regardless, aside from pure ignorance it is an invasion of privacy to ask how someone votes. If that person offers up their voter history without being asked, that's up to them to decide. I just don't take kindly to people asking others how they voted because it's none of their damn business.

You don't take kindly to it? Well I don't really care.

Wait Are you the type of person who where's the *I voted* sticker then when asked *who'd yah vote for?..Then Freaks out "OMG non of your business you ignorant bastard!"

Perhaps you are.

With your idiotic Trump trolling, it doesn't really surprise me that you don't give a shit about people's rights protected under the Constitution of these United States.

my2hands

I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

slightofjeff

my2hands said:

I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.

josevolution

Unreal Comey two weeks before election he throws HRC under the bus at the same time they were investigating bafoon campaign since July, and he didn't even mention that at the time damn that just doesn't sit well at all and none of the senators asked that ?

josevolution

Can someone tell idiot spicer that no one wired tapped his boss this is insane ....

my2hands

slightofjeff said:

my2hands said:

I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.

The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be

josevolution

my2hands said:

slightofjeff said:

my2hands said:

I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.

The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be

Dude I'm thinking the same thing I see it happening start a war and fuck everything else just not to have to resign, damn this is so f'ed up ...

BS44325

my2hands said:

slightofjeff said:

my2hands said:

I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.

The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be

Are people still pushing the albatross theory?