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The New York Knicks Offical Thread

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 31,244
    "Your fans don't like you"
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 26,542

    Wma31394 said:

    Is melo even worth all this drama? From what i see hes just a scorer that is lazy in all other aspects of the game.

    Glad you asked, lol!

    He is THE BEST isolation scorer in the NBA. If you need a shot late in the game then you go to him. Unfortunately the Knicks never seem to have themselves in that position...

    I hate on Melo a lot because I don't like his style of play, no defense, he's not a leader and said as much in interviews. So again to answer your question, no he is not worth it.
    Melo seems like a good dude. It's not his fault phil and dolan massively overpaid him or that they surrounded him with crap. they knew what they were getting.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,472
    To answer WMA's question.....the answer is no. He's not worth the drama.
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 ChicagoPosts: 13,790
    Wobbie said:

    Wma31394 said:

    Is melo even worth all this drama? From what i see hes just a scorer that is lazy in all other aspects of the game.

    Glad you asked, lol!

    He is THE BEST isolation scorer in the NBA. If you need a shot late in the game then you go to him. Unfortunately the Knicks never seem to have themselves in that position...

    I hate on Melo a lot because I don't like his style of play, no defense, he's not a leader and said as much in interviews. So again to answer your question, no he is not worth it.
    Melo seems like a good dude. It's not his fault phil and dolan massively overpaid him or that they surrounded him with crap. they knew what they were getting.
    Yep. Did they think Melo was suddenly going to start playing D and become a great leader this late in his career??

    What a mess. The Knicks make me feel better about being a Bulls fan...just a little bit.
  • crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, BoiiiPosts: 1,306
    edited February 2017
    My opinion on Melo and the Knicks: (Though he still can be) He shouldn't be the 1st option anymore. I think if he doesn't have to create his own space, he will be more effective and the ball will move more which will be beneficial for the team. At this stage, he is now the guy someone has to find open, averaging 15ish a game and not isolating and creating shots for himself. Maybe posting up some because he is still pretty damn strong. BUT, putting him in that role requires an effective facilitator and a consistent 1st option which the Knicks don't have. Also, I think the Knicks are okay on O and can put up a lot of points except they let the other team score more. Which really is the main prob. Not Melo. These dudes barely show up on defense. Rose and Noah are just kinda there. Lee is alright, but he is most effective when he brings players to their weakside into help, which wont work if there is no help. Lance is a good defensive guy but you're pretty much playing 4 on 5 on offense with him on. KP is also a liability on D and either has poor discipline, or gives up too much space (hopefully he'll learn). Lastly, Melo on defense is... well, Melo on defense.
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  • EB218946EB218946 New JerseyPosts: 3,403
    The Melo window has closed for Knicks. They have to build around wily and Kristop. Love Melo and the work he has done for the Knicks.
  • EB218946 said:

    The Melo window has closed for Knicks. They have to build around wily and Kristop. Love Melo and the work he has done for the Knicks.

    Work he's done for the Knicks? Remind me of what that is again?
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442
    How could they not trade Rose?
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  • igotid88 said:

    How could they not trade Rose?

    They must want to give him a contract at the end of the year. That is the only reason I can think of...
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442

    igotid88 said:

    How could they not trade Rose?

    They must want to give him a contract at the end of the year. That is the only reason I can think of...
    I heard on the radio that they almost had a deal for Rubio. But the Knicks wanted at least one more piece in the deal. But by the time they agreed for a straight up deal. It was too late.
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  • crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, BoiiiPosts: 1,306
    Knicks Basketball....
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442
    Since it doesn't look like anybody wants to come here. We need to go for that lottery pick. Forget about "trying" to make the playoffs
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  • crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, BoiiiPosts: 1,306
    igotid88 said:

    Since it doesn't look like anybody wants to come here. We need to go for that lottery pick. Forget about "trying" to make the playoffs

    I'm torn because I still think the Knicks can make a late push for playoffs due to schedule and this draft class is overhyped, but again 1. I'm not a scout, 2. We lost to the fucking Embiid-less Sixers. So worst case, we don't make a push and pick an overhyped player. Nothing new I guess.
  • EB218946EB218946 New JerseyPosts: 3,403
    They should have given the ball at the end of the game to Lance Thomas to shoot instead of Melo. Melo was not shooting well at all.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,472
    igotid88 said:

    Since it doesn't look like anybody wants to come here. We need to go for that lottery pick. Forget about "trying" to make the playoffs

    You want to tank?
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442

    igotid88 said:

    Since it doesn't look like anybody wants to come here. We need to go for that lottery pick. Forget about "trying" to make the playoffs

    You want to tank?
    Not for 3 years on purpose. I would like it if they made the playoffs. But I would understand if they wanted a better position.
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  • crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, BoiiiPosts: 1,306
    EB218946 said:

    They should have given the ball at the end of the game to Lance Thomas to shoot instead of Melo. Melo was not shooting well at all.

    I think Lee took the last shot
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442
    R.I.P John Andariese
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  • EB218946EB218946 New JerseyPosts: 3,403
    Oh wow yeah Rest In Peace John. So many great games he and Marv called for the Knicks.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,472
    igotid88 said:

    igotid88 said:

    Since it doesn't look like anybody wants to come here. We need to go for that lottery pick. Forget about "trying" to make the playoffs

    You want to tank?
    Not for 3 years on purpose. I would like it if they made the playoffs. But I would understand if they wanted a better position.
    After those 3 years the Sixers have Embiid, Simmons, Saric, two potential lottery picks this year and the Kings pick next year among other valuable future picks to go along with the most cap space in the league.

    What do the Knicks have after these past few years? Which franchise is in better position to succeed in the coming years? I'll take the Sixers in this bet all day long....
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442

    igotid88 said:

    igotid88 said:

    Since it doesn't look like anybody wants to come here. We need to go for that lottery pick. Forget about "trying" to make the playoffs

    You want to tank?
    Not for 3 years on purpose. I would like it if they made the playoffs. But I would understand if they wanted a better position.
    After those 3 years the Sixers have Embiid, Simmons, Saric, two potential lottery picks this year and the Kings pick next year among other valuable future picks to go along with the most cap space in the league.

    What do the Knicks have after these past few years? Which franchise is in better position to succeed in the coming years? I'll take the Sixers in this bet all day long....
    I only say that because we haven't been winning in a long time. And not getting anything for Rose or Jennings hurt.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 26,278
    igotid88 said:

    igotid88 said:

    igotid88 said:

    Since it doesn't look like anybody wants to come here. We need to go for that lottery pick. Forget about "trying" to make the playoffs

    You want to tank?
    Not for 3 years on purpose. I would like it if they made the playoffs. But I would understand if they wanted a better position.
    After those 3 years the Sixers have Embiid, Simmons, Saric, two potential lottery picks this year and the Kings pick next year among other valuable future picks to go along with the most cap space in the league.

    What do the Knicks have after these past few years? Which franchise is in better position to succeed in the coming years? I'll take the Sixers in this bet all day long....
    I only say that because we haven't been winning in a long time. And not getting anything for Rose or Jennings hurt.
    There was a report that the Knicks were going to basically give away Melo to the Clippers but they didn't want him.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442

    igotid88 said:

    igotid88 said:

    igotid88 said:

    Since it doesn't look like anybody wants to come here. We need to go for that lottery pick. Forget about "trying" to make the playoffs

    You want to tank?
    Not for 3 years on purpose. I would like it if they made the playoffs. But I would understand if they wanted a better position.
    After those 3 years the Sixers have Embiid, Simmons, Saric, two potential lottery picks this year and the Kings pick next year among other valuable future picks to go along with the most cap space in the league.

    What do the Knicks have after these past few years? Which franchise is in better position to succeed in the coming years? I'll take the Sixers in this bet all day long....
    I only say that because we haven't been winning in a long time. And not getting anything for Rose or Jennings hurt.
    There was a report that the Knicks were going to basically give away Melo to the Clippers but they didn't want him.
    He would have to approve it anyway
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442
    We lost to Brooklyn twice in the same week
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442
    Well Rose's knee injury came.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442
    Pattick Ewing is the new head coach of Georgetown. I wish the Knicks had given him some type of coaching position
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 26,278
    igotid88 said:

    Well Rose's knee injury came.

    He almost lasted the whole year. Almost.

    I feel bad for him. He was great but needs to hang up the kicks.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442
    Knicks not even tanking right
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 20,442
    edited May 2017
    Because the Knicks won their last game. That cost them the chance to get more ping pong balls to get into the top 3. Knicks pick 8th
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