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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    I love watching all these conservative hawks become Russian/Putin sympathizers

    Selling their souls for the bafoon and their political agenda.

    LOL

    Which ones?
    Which ones aren't is the shorter and easier answer. At least a couple took issue with trump responding to the notion that Putin kills people by saying the US isn't innocent either.
    Most took issue with that statement...not a couple. Also Trump has appointed Russian hawks into top positions if you haven't noticed

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-02/trump-said-to-choose-russia-expert-hill-as-white-house-adviser

    Actually I'm quite sure most of the AMT hasn't noticed
    That's one person, not plural. And it hasn't happened yet, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

    And I see where three senators had issue with trump's putin/America killer comment. Yes, that's more than a couple.
    And Mattis and McMaster and Kelly etc. etc. etc.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Video in the latest tweet along with the below statement.
    There is an incredible spirit of optimism sweeping the country right now—we're bringing back the JOBS!
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I think it was a poor choice of words on Carson's part. I don't think there was anything negative intended with it.

    Having said that, his comment about the brain today and how with electrodes he can have someone recite from a book they read 60 years ago- that's what I'd rather talk about. That's fascinating to me and proves he's better suited anywhere but HUD.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited March 2017
    Andrew McCarthy has been just nailing this story since January

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445522/russian-election-hacking-fbi-not-investigating-trump-campaign

    Maybe Trump's tweetstorm was brilliant after all?

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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    oftenreading said:

    josevolution said:

    Hey Orange bafoon why don't you release the intelligence you have pertaining to Obama wire tapping your phones like now you idiot , any sane human would of followed such a claim against an exrealpresident with proof !

    I read an article last night in which someone tried to claim that if it wasn't true, Obama would have already "sued for libel", so the allegation must be true.

    Like Obama has the time and the inclination to stoop to his level and sue Trump for every stupid allegation he makes.
    Obama: Happy as fuck to live in his house for once. Can you imagine 8 years living in a house with all your officemates? Sure they go home every night, but they also leave their dirty coffee mugs behind.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    BS44325 said:

    Andrew McCarthy has been just nailing this story since January

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445522/russian-election-hacking-fbi-not-investigating-trump-campaign

    Maybe Trump's tweetstorm was brilliant after all?

    If there's no "there" there, then why the resignations, lying to congress and failure to release tax returns? Why the dead Russians piling up? Why the republican claims of not needing an investigation? Why the recusal? Why not clear the air and remove the cloud of suspicion by appointing a special counsel?

    Russia didn't hack the election, poor choice of words. They hacked emails and went on a disinformation campaign to sway the election away from Hillary and toward Trump. Terminology like "hack the election" infers hacking of voting machines. Disingenuous reporting, spin, spin, spin. But I wouldn't expect anything less from National Review. Or from you BS.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    BS44325 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    BS44325 said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    The president's pick for HUD secretary. ......

    Carson says slaves were ‘immigrants’ with dreams for their children
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/ben-carson-slaves-immigrants-235730

    “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

    Sorry. Please explain to me why this is offensive? It is not immigration by choice obviously but it was deemed that those forced into slavery should be granted all the rights of a citizen who did immigrate. It is a fact that these slaves did want full rights for themselves and their children. I could be wrong but I don't believe many chose to return to their country of origin post-emancipation? What part of this is so off base?
    Chose to return to their country of origin?!?

    You are aware that slavery didn't just last like fifty years, right? It was generations born into slavery. In the end, they probably didn't even know their ancestors country of origin. What an asinine post.
    Carson is talking about the original slaves. Read the quote. Again...what is offensive about his post. Slaves were brought against their will but regardless should have been entitled to the same rights of all other men and women. That makes them immigrants even if it not by their own choosing. It is the questioning of his statement that is assinine.

    Samuel L. Jackson ✔@SamuelLJackson
    OK!! Ben Carson....I can't! Immigrants ? In the bottom of SLAVE SHIPS??!! MUTHAFUKKA PLEASE!!!#dickheadedtom
    4:04 PM - 6 Mar 2017
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    vaggar99 said:

    oftenreading said:

    josevolution said:

    Hey Orange bafoon why don't you release the intelligence you have pertaining to Obama wire tapping your phones like now you idiot , any sane human would of followed such a claim against an exrealpresident with proof !

    I read an article last night in which someone tried to claim that if it wasn't true, Obama would have already "sued for libel", so the allegation must be true.

    Like Obama has the time and the inclination to stoop to his level and sue Trump for every stupid allegation he makes.
    Obama: Happy as fuck to live in his house for once. Can you imagine 8 years living in a house with all your officemates? Sure they go home every night, but they also leave their dirty coffee mugs behind.
    Yeah, tough life, goes in worth about $1M as a community organizer and comes out worth tens of millions as a radical activist bent on bringing down the Presidency.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    unsung said:

    vaggar99 said:

    oftenreading said:

    josevolution said:

    Hey Orange bafoon why don't you release the intelligence you have pertaining to Obama wire tapping your phones like now you idiot , any sane human would of followed such a claim against an exrealpresident with proof !

    I read an article last night in which someone tried to claim that if it wasn't true, Obama would have already "sued for libel", so the allegation must be true.

    Like Obama has the time and the inclination to stoop to his level and sue Trump for every stupid allegation he makes.
    Obama: Happy as fuck to live in his house for once. Can you imagine 8 years living in a house with all your officemates? Sure they go home every night, but they also leave their dirty coffee mugs behind.
    Yeah, tough life, goes in worth about $1M as a community organizer and comes out worth tens of millions as a radical activist bent on bringing down the Presidency.
    where is your proof of that? there isn't any proof that he bugged trump and that he is trying to bring down his presidency.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    http://nypost.com/2017/02/11/how-obama-is-scheming-to-sabotage-trumps-presidency/
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    edited March 2017
    unsung said:


    Very interesting that there are favourable headlines towards the POTUS in the NYT since being called a failing newspaper by one.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    Waaaaaaa, I want my country back! Obama is no longer POTUS. Why don't you focus on the "brilliance" that is Trump. Pathetic! Sad!

    If there were no "there" there, I'm sure Trump would be leading you to the Promised Land. Except he's going to be impeached.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    unsung said:

    vaggar99 said:

    oftenreading said:

    josevolution said:

    Hey Orange bafoon why don't you release the intelligence you have pertaining to Obama wire tapping your phones like now you idiot , any sane human would of followed such a claim against an exrealpresident with proof !

    I read an article last night in which someone tried to claim that if it wasn't true, Obama would have already "sued for libel", so the allegation must be true.

    Like Obama has the time and the inclination to stoop to his level and sue Trump for every stupid allegation he makes.
    Obama: Happy as fuck to live in his house for once. Can you imagine 8 years living in a house with all your officemates? Sure they go home every night, but they also leave their dirty coffee mugs behind.
    Yeah, tough life, goes in worth about $1M as a community organizer and comes out worth tens of millions as a radical activist bent on bringing down the Presidency.
    Please provide reliable, verifiable, and believable proof, evidence, and links that former President Obama is....

    A. "Radical activist"
    B. "Worth tens of millions ".

    Thanks
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Bentleyspop said:

    BS44325 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    BS44325 said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    The president's pick for HUD secretary. ......

    Carson says slaves were ‘immigrants’ with dreams for their children
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/ben-carson-slaves-immigrants-235730

    “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

    Sorry. Please explain to me why this is offensive? It is not immigration by choice obviously but it was deemed that those forced into slavery should be granted all the rights of a citizen who did immigrate. It is a fact that these slaves did want full rights for themselves and their children. I could be wrong but I don't believe many chose to return to their country of origin post-emancipation? What part of this is so off base?
    Chose to return to their country of origin?!?

    You are aware that slavery didn't just last like fifty years, right? It was generations born into slavery. In the end, they probably didn't even know their ancestors country of origin. What an asinine post.
    Carson is talking about the original slaves. Read the quote. Again...what is offensive about his post. Slaves were brought against their will but regardless should have been entitled to the same rights of all other men and women. That makes them immigrants even if it not by their own choosing. It is the questioning of his statement that is assinine.

    Samuel L. Jackson ✔@SamuelLJackson
    OK!! Ben Carson....I can't! Immigrants ? In the bottom of SLAVE SHIPS??!! MUTHAFUKKA PLEASE!!!#dickheadedtom
    4:04 PM - 6 Mar 2017
    Well there you have it then. Nobody can argue with Stephen.
  • mrussel1
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    BS44325 said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    The president's pick for HUD secretary. ......

    Carson says slaves were ‘immigrants’ with dreams for their children
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/ben-carson-slaves-immigrants-235730

    “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

    Sorry. Please explain to me why this is offensive? It is not immigration by choice obviously but it was deemed that those forced into slavery should be granted all the rights of a citizen who did immigrate. It is a fact that these slaves did want full rights for themselves and their children. I could be wrong but I don't believe many chose to return to their country of origin post-emancipation? What part of this is so off base?
    The slave trade was abolished in 1807. That means the vast majority of slaves freed in 1865 were not born in Africa. So it's kind of a silly statement. However they did have the option to go to Liberia which was established for that reason. However that country was even more foreign than the US.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited March 2017
    Does anyone actually think President Trump will be impeached?
    It's fine to speculate and say why he should be but a huge part of me says that America will have at the minimum four years of this volley banter.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Does anyone actually think President Trump will be impeached?
    It's fine to speculate and say why he should be but a huge part of me says that America will have at the minimum four years of this volley banter.

    You call it banter, I call it behavior beneath the dignity of the office.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    The president's pick for HUD secretary. ......

    Carson says slaves were ‘immigrants’ with dreams for their children
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/ben-carson-slaves-immigrants-235730

    “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

    Sorry. Please explain to me why this is offensive? It is not immigration by choice obviously but it was deemed that those forced into slavery should be granted all the rights of a citizen who did immigrate. It is a fact that these slaves did want full rights for themselves and their children. I could be wrong but I don't believe many chose to return to their country of origin post-emancipation? What part of this is so off base?
    The slave trade was abolished in 1807. That means the vast majority of slaves freed in 1865 were not born in Africa. So it's kind of a silly statement. However they did have the option to go to Liberia which was established for that reason. However that country was even more foreign than the US.
    This is not in dispute. Carson is discussing the initial slaves brought over as "immigrants" followed by their children and grandchildren. People want to go crazy over the use of the word "immigrant" because slaves didn't come by choice. Well no shit. Do people think Ben Carson doesn't know that? The point is that even if they were brought over against their will nobody should argue against their rights and wants to live a better life. This is Kellyanne Conway feet on the couch level bullshit. I don't care if Samuel L Jackson has a wallet that says "Bad Muthafucka" on it...it doesn't make him anymore correct. Tomorrow he'll be arguing that DACA kids who were brought to the US against their will should have full legal status.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    The president's pick for HUD secretary. ......

    Carson says slaves were ‘immigrants’ with dreams for their children
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/ben-carson-slaves-immigrants-235730

    “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less,” he said. “But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

    Sorry. Please explain to me why this is offensive? It is not immigration by choice obviously but it was deemed that those forced into slavery should be granted all the rights of a citizen who did immigrate. It is a fact that these slaves did want full rights for themselves and their children. I could be wrong but I don't believe many chose to return to their country of origin post-emancipation? What part of this is so off base?
    The slave trade was abolished in 1807. That means the vast majority of slaves freed in 1865 were not born in Africa. So it's kind of a silly statement. However they did have the option to go to Liberia which was established for that reason. However that country was even more foreign than the US.
    This is not in dispute. Carson is discussing the initial slaves brought over as "immigrants" followed by their children and grandchildren. People want to go crazy over the use of the word "immigrant" because slaves didn't come by choice. Well no shit. Do people think Ben Carson doesn't know that? The point is that even if they were brought over against their will nobody should argue against their rights and wants to live a better life. This is Kellyanne Conway feet on the couch level bullshit. I don't care if Samuel L Jackson has a wallet that says "Bad Muthafucka" on it...it doesn't make him anymore correct. Tomorrow he'll be arguing that DACA kids who were brought to the US against their will should have full legal status.
    It's a little tone deaf. It's sort of like how Devos called the advent of HBCUs a victory of school,choice rather than a necessity of segregation. It's strange spin.
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