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  • mfc2006
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    unsung said:

    mfc2006 said:

    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

    Shocker!
    Hopefully he goes to prison someday for crimes against the US, but I doubt he will because his buddy Bush didn't.
    Please list these crimes.
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  • Bentleyspop
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    mfc2006 said:

    unsung said:

    mfc2006 said:

    unsung said:

    So glad obama is gone.

    Shocker!
    Hopefully he goes to prison someday for crimes against the US, but I doubt he will because his buddy Bush didn't.
    Please list these crimes.
    Yes please do
    But with verifiable and believable sources and links.
    Thanks
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/us/politics/trump-seeks-inquiry-into-allegations-that-obama-tapped-his-phones.html?_r=0
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited March 2017
    First Clapper shuts it down.. .and now Comey. I believe that's 2/2.
    Who would have thunk that a POTUS would spread false information? Oh wait.. I know. All of us.

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Merkin Baller said:

    Exactly, keep talking about Obama, there's nothing to see here folks.

    Tweeted less than 90 minutes ago:

    Transcripts indeed. I guess that confirms the tapping then. There better be some meat in those. Time for everybody to put their cards on the table. What evidence justified the FISA approval, who was spied on after the approval, what evidence was found following the approval, and how was collected evidence handled? Lot of minefields for all sides...be careful of the blowback.
    Well if you read this semi-carefully, doesn't Foreign Intelligence services imply intelligence captured by other countries, not the US? Pretty sure the Brits, Israelis, etc. don't go to FISA.
    Hmmm. That is a different and interesting way to look at it. Is the information from a foreign service that was then shared? Good question.
  • mrussel1
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    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Merkin Baller said:

    Exactly, keep talking about Obama, there's nothing to see here folks.

    Tweeted less than 90 minutes ago:

    Transcripts indeed. I guess that confirms the tapping then. There better be some meat in those. Time for everybody to put their cards on the table. What evidence justified the FISA approval, who was spied on after the approval, what evidence was found following the approval, and how was collected evidence handled? Lot of minefields for all sides...be careful of the blowback.
    Well if you read this semi-carefully, doesn't Foreign Intelligence services imply intelligence captured by other countries, not the US? Pretty sure the Brits, Israelis, etc. don't go to FISA.
    Hmmm. That is a different and interesting way to look at it. Is the information from a foreign service that was then shared? Good question.
    Read the tweet from NBC News... Comey is fighting with the DOJ...saying the accusation is false.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Merkin Baller said:

    "2016: hillary should go to jail for deleting some emails

    2017: whether or not trump is conspiring with russia is completely irrelevant"

    Nobody is questioning relevance. What is being questioned is evidence. So far there is not much. It is guilt by innuendo. Trump has basically lit a fire under all the accusations. If there are transcripts or recordings then that will have to come out now. If there was just one simple breach of his computer as per Hillary's statement below with zero follow on evidence then it's over.



  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    And now the article... I hope we only have one public official lying (Trump) rather than Clapper and Comey. Although one would have to wonder why Comey would cover for Obama, no?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-director-comey-asked-doj-reject-trump-s-wiretap-claims-n729351
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:

    And now the article... I hope we only have one public official lying (Trump) rather than Clapper and Comey. Although one would have to wonder why Comey would cover for Obama, no?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-director-comey-asked-doj-reject-trump-s-wiretap-claims-n729351

    It's all part of Trumps brilliant plan. We just don't understand it because he is operating on a whole different level with his good brain.

    The genius of it all will become apparent in the coming days.

    It totally has nothing to do with Trump hearing about Obama getting back into politics. Then, feeling threatened, he lashed out... In the only way he knows how to, through Twitter.

    That kind of behavior is beneath a pussy grabber like Trump.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:

    And now the article... I hope we only have one public official lying (Trump) rather than Clapper and Comey. Although one would have to wonder why Comey would cover for Obama, no?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-director-comey-asked-doj-reject-trump-s-wiretap-claims-n729351

    Also, how long till they find a reason to axe Comey?

    This administration is an absolute disaster, I don't see how anyone can spin this in a positive light.
  • mfc2006
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    dignin said:

    mrussel1 said:

    And now the article... I hope we only have one public official lying (Trump) rather than Clapper and Comey. Although one would have to wonder why Comey would cover for Obama, no?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-director-comey-asked-doj-reject-trump-s-wiretap-claims-n729351

    Also, how long till they find a reason to axe Comey?

    This administration is an absolute disaster, I don't see how anyone can spin this in a positive light.
    I don't know how either...it's a shitshow.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mfc2006 said:

    dignin said:

    mrussel1 said:

    And now the article... I hope we only have one public official lying (Trump) rather than Clapper and Comey. Although one would have to wonder why Comey would cover for Obama, no?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-director-comey-asked-doj-reject-trump-s-wiretap-claims-n729351

    Also, how long till they find a reason to axe Comey?

    This administration is an absolute disaster, I don't see how anyone can spin this in a positive light.
    I don't know how either...it's a shitshow.
    It's brilliant!




    To follow the money like Congress minus Cruz will, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.
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  • Smellyman
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    libertarians are a different breed.

    The 'in' kind
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11812875
    US President Donald Trump is preparing to sign a revised Executive Order temporarily barring the entry of people from certain Muslim-majority countries and halting the nation's refugee programme.
    A White House official says plans to roll out the order are on track for tomorrow.
  • my2hands
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    If you think Moscow Don is clean and everything is on the up & up...

    Then I have a bridge to sell you... in Siberia

    This shit used to be called treason
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited March 2017
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Merkin Baller said:

    Exactly, keep talking about Obama, there's nothing to see here folks.

    Tweeted less than 90 minutes ago:

    Transcripts indeed. I guess that confirms the tapping then. There better be some meat in those. Time for everybody to put their cards on the table. What evidence justified the FISA approval, who was spied on after the approval, what evidence was found following the approval, and how was collected evidence handled? Lot of minefields for all sides...be careful of the blowback.
    Well if you read this semi-carefully, doesn't Foreign Intelligence services imply intelligence captured by other countries, not the US? Pretty sure the Brits, Israelis, etc. don't go to FISA.
    Hmmm. That is a different and interesting way to look at it. Is the information from a foreign service that was then shared? Good question.
    Read the tweet from NBC News... Comey is fighting with the DOJ...saying the accusation is false.
    Also very interesting. The story is from a source but not Comey himself. I'm inclined to believe this but what is being refuted? The entire statement or just the "obama ordered" part? Is spying as part of a FISA request being refuted? A lot we still don't know.

    As an aside...this clip of James Rosen being interviewed showed the type of spying conducted under the Obama DOJ. A judge approved this.

    https://youtu.be/IvpN_tKMWjw
  • mrussel1
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    It's actually two senior sources that confirmed it.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    British and Dutch passed along intel of Trump associates meeting with Russians. Why couldn't this intel be the basis of the FISA requests?

    http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/03/british-dutch-passed-along-intel-about-meetings-between-trump-team-and-russia

    Love how you're trying to make the nefariousness out to be "Obama spying." With what we already know and what has transpired, it would appear there is a "there" there. But keep trying to make it about the black guy.

    Whatever happened to "lock her up?"

    Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to Trump's impeachment.
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  • mfc2006
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    Gotta love Dave.....


    http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/david-letterman-in-conversation.html?mid=fb-share-vulture
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    mfc2006 said:

    Gotta love Dave.....
    http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/david-letterman-in-conversation.html?mid=fb-share-vulture

    I like this from the article.
    ..Let’s instead find ways to rebuild what is rational. And the Democrats, goddamn it, get a little backbone, get a little spine.
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