Recent Wave of Immigrant Arrests - What Does it Mean?

my2hands said:

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?

Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.

So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?

Word is that there is about to be roughly 10,000 career opportunities here:
https://www.ice.gov/careers

cool... 10,000 government jobs and a $30,000,000,000 wall....

brought to you by small government fiscally conservative republicans? lol

They'll probably be doing a little hiring to mix the concrete too, lol. Job openings for everyone!

Ms. Haiku said:

I've read about the DHS memos, but I haven't seen them. Anyone have a link for the text?

I was looking for them earlier as well. Couldn't find a link.

Godfather. said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-trump-was-right.html





















Two leading Swedish politicians have a message for President Trump’s critics: He’s right.

Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, both leaders of the Sweden Democrats, penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Wednesday supporting Trump’s characterization of a Muslim immigrant-led crime crisis in Sweden.

“Mr. Trump did not exaggerate Sweden’s current problems,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote. “If anything, he understated them.”

http://www.thelocal.se/20170223/minister-morgan-johansson-blasts-sweden-democrats-wall-street-journal-op-ed-theyre-lying-about-sweden

Sweden's justice and migration minister has accused anti-immigration party leaders of lying about Sweden after they wrote in the Wall Street Journal that Donald Trump was right in his comments about immigration.
He spoke hours after Sweden Democrat bosses Jimmie Åkesson and Mattias Karlsson wrote in an opinion piece published in the Wall Street Journal on Thursday that "Mr Trump did not exaggerate Sweden's current problems" when he falsely suggested that immigration had sparked a rising crime wave in the country.

"If anything, he understated them. Sweden took in about 275,000 asylum-seekers from 2014-16 – more per capita than any other European country," they wrote, adding that "riots and social unrest have become a part of everyday life" and vowing to "make Sweden safe again".

"For the sake of the American people, with whom we share so many strong historical and cultural ties, we can only hope that the leaders in Washington won’t make the same mistakes that our socialist and liberal politicians did."

Sweden's justice and migration minister Morgan Johansson told The Local on Thursday that the government would submit its own opinion piece to the newspaper to counter the claims.

"I note that it has gone so far that the Sweden Democrats are intentionally harming Sweden by lying about how things are. We can't let that go unchallenged. They're painting a picture of a country characterized by violence, when it's the exact opposite. Not to mention the risk of being the victim of deadly violence in the US is four times higher than in Sweden," he said.

A total of 112 people were victims of deadly violence in Sweden in 2015, according to the National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå). Deadly violence has decreased since the 1990s.

Åkesson and Karlsson wrote their opinion piece following a report on Fox News on crime and immigration in Sweden, which President Donald Trump said he had based his view of Sweden on.

"I would say that perhaps the US president ought to be a bit more critical of his sources and not get all his news from reports on Fox News," commented Johansson, but refrained from further criticism.

Riddled with factual inaccuracies (some of which were debunked by The Local), filmmaker Ami Horowitz' report on the US network was heavily criticized by many Swedes earlier this week, including two police officers featured in the video who said they had been misled and their quotes taken out of context.

"You should know that despite this kind of thing the image of Sweden is very positive abroad – it is no coincidence that we were elected onto the UN Security Council with a large majority," said Johansson.

"But every now and then these urban myths are spread in far-right media."

Sweden is not a country without its problems. For example, more than one in five of the foreign-born population is unemployed and it struggles with a critical housing shortage. But Johansson argued that cherry-picking statistics and exaggerating the issues faced by the nation risked harming the debate.

"We have problems like all countries that we have to deal with and it is then important to talk about them in a nuanced way," he said.

In their opinion piece, the Sweden Democrat leaders also commented on anti-Semitism in Malmö, a much-debated topic in the past few years. "Jews in Malmö are threatened, harassed and assaulted in the streets. Many have left the city, becoming internal refugees in their country of birth," they wrote.

However, Freddy Gellberg, the chairman of the Jewish Association, criticized the portrayal.

"Anti-Semitism in Malmö is a serious enough problem without, like the Sweden Democrats, grossly exaggerating and calling Jews moving from Malmö 'internal refugees'. Jews move from Malmö for various reasons and anti-Semitism is one of them," Gellberg told public broadcaster SVT.

Godfather. said:

so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.

The refugees coming to the US are much better behaved than us white folks who have been here a long time.

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Godfather. said:

so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.

so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Godfather. said:

so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.

so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.

actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet, believe it of not I don't froth in front of the T.V at night watching Fox...most nights it's the History Channel or Discovery, don't even get me started on the UFO bullshit LOL !!!!

YOUR. LINK. WAS. FROM. FOX. NEWS.

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

oftenreading said:

Godfather. said:

so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.

so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.

actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet, believe it of not I don't froth in front of the T.V at night watching Fox...most nights it's the History Channel or Discovery, don't even get me started on the UFO bullshit LOL !!!!

YOUR. LINK. WAS. FROM. FOX. NEWS.

That's funny.