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  • jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
    You see?
    This is fake news that you want to spew going forward.
    He is your POTUS.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    Yeah, you would think that they would have had something in place after years of criticizing Obamacare.....but nope!
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
    You see?
    This is fake news that you want to spew going forward.
    He is your POTUS.
    Haha, he looks more like a SCROTUS to me.

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  • ^^^
    Your POTUS.
  • mfc2006 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    Yeah, you would think that they would have had something in place after years of criticizing Obamacare.....but nope!
    It's not in place yet because of red tape.
    They've learned first hand how not to roll out things w/ out having their is dotted and their ts crossed.
    You can't repeal and implement a new healthcare plan in one month. If you think that you are a fool.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
    You see?
    This is fake news that you want to spew going forward.
    He is your POTUS.
    WTF are you talking about? You should really learn more about the US Constitution if you are going to opine on our system so often.

    Contrary to Trump's declaration that he would repeal the law on Day 1 (notice he didn't), he does not have that authority in the least. This was a legislative act and any change falls completely under the purview of Congress. He has no authority other than signing whatever comes out of congress.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    To be fair, that could probably mean that you haven't had anything catastrophic happen to you. One car accident, ambulance trip and a surgery, and you're at 100 grand in a second. That's where it would help.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    mrussel1 said:

    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
    You see?
    This is fake news that you want to spew going forward.
    He is your POTUS.
    WTF are you talking about? You should really learn more about the US Constitution if you are going to opine on our system so often.

    Contrary to Trump's declaration that he would repeal the law on Day 1 (notice he didn't), he does not have that authority in the least. This was a legislative act and any change falls completely under the purview of Congress. He has no authority other than signing whatever comes out of congress.
    Bingo.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    mrussel1 said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    To be fair, that could probably mean that you haven't had anything catastrophic happen to you. One car accident, ambulance trip and a surgery, and you're at 100 grand in a second. That's where it would help.
    Yes it's insurance against disaster, but not really a health plan.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    benjs said:

    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
    So-Called Ruler Of The United (Mostly) States... SCROTUMS.
    HAHA!!!!!
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    benjs said:

    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
    So-Called Ruler Of The United (Mostly) States... SCROTUMS.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I'm pretty sure the Universal Health Care that Bernie Sanders was proposing, along the lines of what every other major country has, one that put an emphasis on actual care instead of keeping private insurance companies in business would be more preferable. What we'll get is Republican "health care savings accounts" and then when the disaster hits, ACA recipients will just be steamrolled.
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  • mrussel1 said:

    jeffbr said:

    Tiki said:

    I get my insurance through the ACA with a subsidy. No prescriptions, no dental, no vision. It's an insurance plan not a health plan.

    I have a $6500 deductible, and I pay (with the subsidy) the insurance company $325 a month.

    It's useless, unless you like propping up insurance companies. For them, I'm sure it's awesome.

    Has this changed since your new POTUS?
    I don't think anything has changed yet for anyone. And just to correct you, he not our POTUS, he's our SCROTUS (So Called Ruler Of The U.S.). Please refer to him as such going forward. Thanks.
    You see?
    This is fake news that you want to spew going forward.
    He is your POTUS.
    WTF are you talking about? You should really learn more about the US Constitution if you are going to opine on our system so often.

    Contrary to Trump's declaration that he would repeal the law on Day 1 (notice he didn't), he does not have that authority in the least. This was a legislative act and any change falls completely under the purview of Congress. He has no authority other than signing whatever comes out of congress.
    Until then people have to stop harping on the Trump administration until the new plan flies through republican backed congress.
    I'm sure President Trump has found out that he does not have the authority on this but his congress does.
    One month to repeal and implement a new plan just doesn't happen, it will take time.
  • CM189191 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
    Your graphs are like polls.
    Meaningless.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    CM189191 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
    Your graphs are like polls.
    Meaningless.
    Well, sure. Graphs only have meaning if you understand them.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I don't think Trump understands how legislation or the US govt actually works.
    He understands how to be the boss of a very small company.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • CM189191 said:

    Tiki said:

    the premiums increased on Dec 31st, but that had nothing to do with Trump.

    HE HAS NO PLAN except to repeal and replace with something terrific..

    No plan yet revealed.
    He is working on it.
    Until then you are stuck with the old.
    It's only been a month.
    6 years
    67 attempts to repeal
    somehow these jackholes don't have a plan in place yet?

    also, premiums
    Slower Premium Growth Under Obama


    Health Care Costs Grow Dramatically Slower Than Expected After Obamacare
    Your graphs are like polls.
    Meaningless.
    Coming from someone who believes facts don't matter, sure.

    CM, please stop with the facts, please?
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