Has the Race Card/ Political Correctness gone too far ?
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was ? it's a new time man...HughFreakingDillon said:
I agree with the fundamental aspect of what you are trying to say here, but I explained the answer to this in a post above. I guess you didn't read it. here it is again, pay attention to the bolded part:Godfather. said:
I've tried to tell you guy's color is not an issue for me, it is however fun to debate with you all about it.HughFreakingDillon said:Jimi Hendrix as part of your white history month. Good god.
if we all want simple peace amongst each other why do we fuck it up with bullshit like specific nationality history months ?
we should celebrate our lives as a whole, now, significant individual accomplishments that have helped to change the world or country I'm all for, color shouldn't be a factor, the good deeds of man should be.
The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.
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had a feeling it would fall in line with your usual "they need to get over it and move on" line of thinking.Godfather. said:
was ? it's a new time man...HughFreakingDillon said:
I agree with the fundamental aspect of what you are trying to say here, but I explained the answer to this in a post above. I guess you didn't read it. here it is again, pay attention to the bolded part:Godfather. said:
I've tried to tell you guy's color is not an issue for me, it is however fun to debate with you all about it.HughFreakingDillon said:Jimi Hendrix as part of your white history month. Good god.
if we all want simple peace amongst each other why do we fuck it up with bullshit like specific nationality history months ?
we should celebrate our lives as a whole, now, significant individual accomplishments that have helped to change the world or country I'm all for, color shouldn't be a factor, the good deeds of man should be.
The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I was waiting for some lost soul to bring that up, you ever thought that maybe " whitey " did it better in many cases ? maybe whitey had ambition to take field blues out of the fields and into mainstream America, did you know the first form of written/recorded music is classical music (no not the oldies but goodies) and guess what ??? WHITEY DID IT ! some of my favorite blues is John Lee Hooked, muddy Waters,mickeyrat said:
and the "British Invasion" which in large part took black music in the Blues and (re)Introduced to white America. Once again proving, whitey steals an idea or thing, claims it as their own and decimates the culture it came from. THATS white history.HughFreakingDillon said:Jimi Hendrix as part of your white history month. Good god.
Howlin Wolf etc. but don't tell me whitey stole it and made their own, that's straight up bullshit, EVERY white artist who ever played the blues always gave credit to "the Black blues men...and women" who gave birth to the blues and rock n roll (big mama Thornton) so please Amigo non of the whitey stole the blues stuff.0 -
"maybe whitey had ambition to take field blues out of the fields". good god.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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There are some good points being made here. Just for people like Godfather, let's celebrate White History Month. We can focus on a few key themes - opportunism and colonialist expansionism, slave labour and white supremacy, fast food and other health regressing advancements, and unearned elitism. For Godfather alone, let's add celebration through a few topics to discuss at schools/workplaces/homes: Selective Hearing 101 (colloquially referred to by those who practice it as "Select 1", and they typically pick "White"), Ignoring Logic (Course Syllabus reads "Don't forget, you're always right and they're always wrong. You owe no explanation"), and last but not least, Humanitarianism and Why It's Optional When It Doesn't Benefit You.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Brilliant!benjs said:There are some good points being made here. Just for people like Godfather, let's celebrate White History Month. We can focus on a few key themes - opportunism and colonialist expansionism, slave labour and white supremacy, fast food and other health regressing advancements, and unearned elitism. For Godfather alone, let's add celebration through a few topics to discuss at schools/workplaces/homes: Selective Hearing 101 (colloquially referred to by those who practice it as "Select 1", and they typically pick "White"), Ignoring Logic (Course Syllabus reads "Don't forget, you're always right and they're always wrong. You owe no explanation"), and last but not least, Humanitarianism and Why It's Optional When It Doesn't Benefit You.
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especially this: "Don't forget, you're always right and they're always wrong. You owe no explanation"benjs said:There are some good points being made here. Just for people like Godfather, let's celebrate White History Month. We can focus on a few key themes - opportunism and colonialist expansionism, slave labour and white supremacy, fast food and other health regressing advancements, and unearned elitism. For Godfather alone, let's add celebration through a few topics to discuss at schools/workplaces/homes: Selective Hearing 101 (colloquially referred to by those who practice it as "Select 1", and they typically pick "White"), Ignoring Logic (Course Syllabus reads "Don't forget, you're always right and they're always wrong. You owe no explanation"), and last but not least, Humanitarianism and Why It's Optional When It Doesn't Benefit You.
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Worth considering:
http://www.salon.com/2017/02/12/langston-hughes-saw-donald-trump-coming-let-america-be-america-again-vs-maga/
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Excellent essay. Thanks for posting.Halifax2TheMax said:0 -
when this type of stuff is FRONT page FAKE NEWS,
HELL YES, a bridge too far
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I saw where Michigan State removed whiteboards from the dorm because someone might write something hurtful on them.......so yes0
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sparty is now micro agro free, YAEEE! lol0
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Feel free to send your kids to, or attend, Liberty University.buck502000 said:I saw where Michigan State removed whiteboards from the dorm because someone might write something hurtful on them.......so yes
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Remember to good ol days when bigots would say things right to someone's face?rssesq said:sparty is now micro agro free, YAEEE! lol
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I'm surprised someone isn't offended they're called whiteboards.Halifax2TheMax said:
Feel free to send your kids to, or attend, Liberty University.buck502000 said:I saw where Michigan State removed whiteboards from the dorm because someone might write something hurtful on them.......so yes
Anyway,
I posted awhile back about they are now instructing that you must clear a whiteboard using up and down strokes not side to side because your ass facing the class moves side to side if you don't which offends people.
Although I have tested this just to see it is true your ass doesn't wiggle if you go up and down but fuck that.
I will erase a whiteboard however the fuck I want to.0 -
And guess what... you're vote for Trump didn't bring any of that back... you're just starting to figure that out I betGodfather. said:
fudge sickles batman !..I want the 70's back LOL !, I'm mad as hell and I won't take it anymore !! Gimi back my 70's ! HAHAHAHAHHA !!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
Every month is White History Month, GF. Do you want February back? Too much FLA sun for the snowflakes having cornflakes?Godfather. said:would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.
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you folks can't stand the truth when it interrupts your " poor abused black man" way of thinking, I think you all need some seriousHughFreakingDillon said:"maybe whitey had ambition to take field blues out of the fields". good god.
help....lessons in life that teach you to stop being pitiful self absorbed self described victims and learn to move forward with your thinking and emotions that you pretend to have and believe are so sensitive, you're not doing anybody any favors with your public display of pity.
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Someone should write your football team sucks on the blackboard0
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Do you feel victimized GF? Are you downtrodden? Feel as if "your" way of life is slipping away? Let me guess, cornflakes for breakfast again?Godfather. said:
you folks can't stand the truth when it interrupts your " poor abused black man" way of thinking, I think you all need some seriousHughFreakingDillon said:"maybe whitey had ambition to take field blues out of the fields". good god.
help....lessons in life that teach you to stop being pitiful self absorbed self described victims and learn to move forward with your thinking and emotions that you pretend to have and believe are so sensitive, you're not doing anybody any favors with your public display of pity.
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Have you ever tried to understand the difference between the present and history? One takes place today, the other is about giving respect to, and learning lessons from, what has already happened.Godfather. said:
you folks can't stand the truth when it interrupts your " poor abused black man" way of thinking, I think you all need some seriousHughFreakingDillon said:"maybe whitey had ambition to take field blues out of the fields". good god.
help....lessons in life that teach you to stop being pitiful self absorbed self described victims and learn to move forward with your thinking and emotions that you pretend to have and believe are so sensitive, you're not doing anybody any favors with your public display of pity.
Many of us here don't pretend to have emotions; we actually feel them. I can tell you that some of us recognize what, at the hands of the random universe, we were given at birth. The universe will never equalize opportunity - only humans in possession of power can do that for the humans not in possession of power. If you don't respect history, I'm assuming you similarly don't feel the weight of helping equalize power that should come with beating the odds and being born into a privileged life.
If the "right thing to do" argument doesn't work for you, then try another perspective if it helps. Think about the 'special minds' that, through a combination of their own innate abilities, an education, and sufficient opportunity, were able to change the world and/or our way of thinking: Thomas Edison, Richard Feynman, Steve Jobs, there are a few handfuls of game-changing people. When I think about these people, I can't help but think that with the majority of humans living in developing nation without access to either education or opportunity - it is likely that several Edisons, Feynmans, Jobs', have lived their lives supporting their families with hard and unrewarding labour, and spent their dying days working in agriculture. They have helped their families, but they've never been given the opportunity to help the world in as major a way as they could have. The opportunity cost of this is tremendous. With a different roll of a dice, Thomas Edison or Alexander Graham Bell could've been born into an impoverished family in Somalia, and we likely would not be communicating the way we are right now.
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