Has the Race Card/ Political Correctness gone too far ?

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  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,920
    When Tiger Woods won The Masters in '97 Fuzzy Zoeller made a joke that he hoped Tiger wouldn't serve Fried Chicken at the Champions Dinner. Zoeller admits it was stupid and in bad taste.

    Now if the food company had done Southern BBQ there would have been no objections.
  • would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    Every month is White History Month, GF. Do you want February back? Too much FLA sun for the snowflakes having cornflakes?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,409
    here I thought every month was white history month. white people wrote it.....
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    Every month is White History Month, GF. Do you want February back? Too much FLA sun for the snowflakes having cornflakes?
    fudge sickles batman !..I want the 70's back LOL !, I'm mad as hell and I won't take it anymore !! Gimi back my 70's ! HAHAHAHAHHA !!!!
    I miss bellbottoms, long hair, ditto's (best pair of jeans a gal ever put on) Led Zeppelin, Don Kershner's in Concert, the 66' Chevelle Supper Sport I had in 78', my first chopper in 77' ( yeah I had lots of ditto wearing fox's with that bike LOL !! not really) and on top of it all.....I didn't give a fat frogs ass who was president !

  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    unsung said:

    It was easy.

    I'll fix one: bigot = someone who believes white genocide is an actual thing
    Your fellow voters are proving it.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359

    would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

    The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

    please just read this summation:

    “There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

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  • Way too many big words.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

    The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

    please just read this summation:

    “There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

    " too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

  • would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

    The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

    please just read this summation:

    “There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

    " too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

    What would white history month look like to you GF?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359

    would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

    The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

    please just read this summation:

    “There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

    " too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

    it is incredibly sad that you take that as a good thing. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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    -EV  8/14/93




  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486

    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    in this case, I would say so. But that doesn't mean there isn't STILL legitimateinjustices perpetrated daily.

    my personal view on political correctness is its really about basic human decency and respect toward another human being. I can't see how exactly thats a bad thing?

    That isn't a bad thing.
    I think the problem some see with PC going to far is too many are overly sensitive to it. You can't bring up fatherless homes when talking about black crimes or someone will accuse you of being racist.
    When I was in college I was having a friendly conversation with 2 coworkers and the word "ghetto" was used. My white friend and I were written up and given a serious warning (like almost lost our job) for using racial slurs, and when we asked why the third person wasn't in trouble our manager responded "because she's black, she's allowed to use that word." I think that was my first personal experience of serious over PC reaction. Here we are some 20 year old kids having a friendly conversation on a lunch break, and our job was threatened because we were white and used the word "ghetto" to describe something, then were told our black coworker can use it since she's black.
    Probably don't need to mention I didn't have a good relationship with my manager after that and didn't give a crap about my job after that and my work productivity quickly declined.
    that scenario depends on how the argument is framed though doesn't it? in what way was that convo framed? what was the context?

    on the surface, a misapplication of hr protocols is what it sounds like to me. also got to ask, just how long ago was this?
    I don't even remember context, this was 12 years ago or so. Back when the word "ghetto" was used often to describe something shady, you know like if your bumper starts to fall off and you keep it together with duct tape, that's ghetto. It was something like that, innocent conversati0on, nothing to do with race or anything. I'm pretty sure the 2 of us who got into trouble weren't even the first ones to use it, it was our black friend who got a free pass for being black who used it and we just continued the conversation. And to get into as much trouble as we did was ridiculous. To take such offense to an innocent conversation like that just blew my mind at the time. Especially since I remember our defense being we didn't even use the word first (even though I didn't think anything wrong with it at the time anyway) and him following back with "that is our word, you can't have it).

    I felt like I got my revenge a month later. It was a job on campus and we had to sign up when we had finals so they wouldn't schedule us. I accidentally said I had PM finals and could work the AM shift. It was reversed, but didn't realized I wrote it down wrong. So I show up for the PM shift (having taking a final that morning) and immediate get my rear end handed to me. In 4 years working this same job, and this was a relatively new manager, this was the one and only time I missed a shift or was even late. The only other incident I ever had was using the word ghetto a few weeks early, but got along great with all our previous managers. So when I realized I wrote down the wrong times I apologized several times, but he kept chewing me out and said this is my second strike and to not let there be a third or I'm gone. He then immediately changes his attitude and says "but since its finals we're really short staffed right now and I could really use your help if you stay, everyone else ha PM finals today." My response was "so you mean I wasn't scheduled to work right? see you tomorrow."

    You don't even remember? Let me guess, you're white and nervous?
    Not nervous. What does that have to do with anything? And yes, a conversation from 12 years ago I have forgotten some pf the details. Can you tell me the conversation you had 12 years ago?
    If that is all you got from my post then you completely missed the point. I used a word that wasn't directed towards a race (many ethnic groups have lived in ghettos, not just blacks) and it was a common slang at the time to refer to anything sub-standard as ghetto. And I was written up for using a racial slur for using that word, even though I was not the first to use it and only joining in a friendly conversation that the manager overheard, while being told black people can freely use it.
    I see something wrong with that.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    It was easy.

    I'll fix one: bigot = someone who believes white genocide is an actual thing
    Your fellow voters are proving it.
    You better paint yourself up in black face, the liberal bootlickers were sent by their overlords to eliminate you!
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

    The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

    please just read this summation:

    “There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

    " too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

    Well that sums Godfather up pretty neatly doesn't it?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    It was easy.

    I'll fix one: bigot = someone who believes white genocide is an actual thing
    Your fellow voters are proving it.
    How so? As a white guy I'd like to know. Will there be a round up or will it be Soros funded hit squads?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,398
    edited February 2017
    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    in this case, I would say so. But that doesn't mean there isn't STILL legitimateinjustices perpetrated daily.

    my personal view on political correctness is its really about basic human decency and respect toward another human being. I can't see how exactly thats a bad thing?

    That isn't a bad thing.
    I think the problem some see with PC going to far is too many are overly sensitive to it. You can't bring up fatherless homes when talking about black crimes or someone will accuse you of being racist.
    When I was in college I was having a friendly conversation with 2 coworkers and the word "ghetto" was used. My white friend and I were written up and given a serious warning (like almost lost our job) for using racial slurs, and when we asked why the third person wasn't in trouble our manager responded "because she's black, she's allowed to use that word." I think that was my first personal experience of serious over PC reaction. Here we are some 20 year old kids having a friendly conversation on a lunch break, and our job was threatened because we were white and used the word "ghetto" to describe something, then were told our black coworker can use it since she's black.
    Probably don't need to mention I didn't have a good relationship with my manager after that and didn't give a crap about my job after that and my work productivity quickly declined.
    that scenario depends on how the argument is framed though doesn't it? in what way was that convo framed? what was the context?

    on the surface, a misapplication of hr protocols is what it sounds like to me. also got to ask, just how long ago was this?
    I don't even remember context, this was 12 years ago or so. Back when the word "ghetto" was used often to describe something shady, you know like if your bumper starts to fall off and you keep it together with duct tape, that's ghetto. It was something like that, innocent conversati0on, nothing to do with race or anything. I'm pretty sure the 2 of us who got into trouble weren't even the first ones to use it, it was our black friend who got a free pass for being black who used it and we just continued the conversation. And to get into as much trouble as we did was ridiculous. To take such offense to an innocent conversation like that just blew my mind at the time. Especially since I remember our defense being we didn't even use the word first (even though I didn't think anything wrong with it at the time anyway) and him following back with "that is our word, you can't have it).

    I felt like I got my revenge a month later. It was a job on campus and we had to sign up when we had finals so they wouldn't schedule us. I accidentally said I had PM finals and could work the AM shift. It was reversed, but didn't realized I wrote it down wrong. So I show up for the PM shift (having taking a final that morning) and immediate get my rear end handed to me. In 4 years working this same job, and this was a relatively new manager, this was the one and only time I missed a shift or was even late. The only other incident I ever had was using the word ghetto a few weeks early, but got along great with all our previous managers. So when I realized I wrote down the wrong times I apologized several times, but he kept chewing me out and said this is my second strike and to not let there be a third or I'm gone. He then immediately changes his attitude and says "but since its finals we're really short staffed right now and I could really use your help if you stay, everyone else ha PM finals today." My response was "so you mean I wasn't scheduled to work right? see you tomorrow."

    Context is everything. And if you don't remember the context, why bring it up? Still feeling aggrieved from an injustice of 12 years ago?
    Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    in this case, I would say so. But that doesn't mean there isn't STILL legitimateinjustices perpetrated daily.

    my personal view on political correctness is its really about basic human decency and respect toward another human being. I can't see how exactly thats a bad thing?

    That isn't a bad thing.
    I think the problem some see with PC going to far is too many are overly sensitive to it. You can't bring up fatherless homes when talking about black crimes or someone will accuse you of being racist.
    When I was in college I was having a friendly conversation with 2 coworkers and the word "ghetto" was used. My white friend and I were written up and given a serious warning (like almost lost our job) for using racial slurs, and when we asked why the third person wasn't in trouble our manager responded "because she's black, she's allowed to use that word." I think that was my first personal experience of serious over PC reaction. Here we are some 20 year old kids having a friendly conversation on a lunch break, and our job was threatened because we were white and used the word "ghetto" to describe something, then were told our black coworker can use it since she's black.
    Probably don't need to mention I didn't have a good relationship with my manager after that and didn't give a crap about my job after that and my work productivity quickly declined.
    that scenario depends on how the argument is framed though doesn't it? in what way was that convo framed? what was the context?

    on the surface, a misapplication of hr protocols is what it sounds like to me. also got to ask, just how long ago was this?
    I don't even remember context, this was 12 years ago or so. Back when the word "ghetto" was used often to describe something shady, you know like if your bumper starts to fall off and you keep it together with duct tape, that's ghetto. It was something like that, innocent conversati0on, nothing to do with race or anything. I'm pretty sure the 2 of us who got into trouble weren't even the first ones to use it, it was our black friend who got a free pass for being black who used it and we just continued the conversation. And to get into as much trouble as we did was ridiculous. To take such offense to an innocent conversation like that just blew my mind at the time. Especially since I remember our defense being we didn't even use the word first (even though I didn't think anything wrong with it at the time anyway) and him following back with "that is our word, you can't have it).

    I felt like I got my revenge a month later. It was a job on campus and we had to sign up when we had finals so they wouldn't schedule us. I accidentally said I had PM finals and could work the AM shift. It was reversed, but didn't realized I wrote it down wrong. So I show up for the PM shift (having taking a final that morning) and immediate get my rear end handed to me. In 4 years working this same job, and this was a relatively new manager, this was the one and only time I missed a shift or was even late. The only other incident I ever had was using the word ghetto a few weeks early, but got along great with all our previous managers. So when I realized I wrote down the wrong times I apologized several times, but he kept chewing me out and said this is my second strike and to not let there be a third or I'm gone. He then immediately changes his attitude and says "but since its finals we're really short staffed right now and I could really use your help if you stay, everyone else ha PM finals today." My response was "so you mean I wasn't scheduled to work right? see you tomorrow."

    Context is everything. And if you don't remember the context, why bring it up? Still feeling aggrieved from an injustice of 12 years ago?
    Injustice lol
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

    The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

    please just read this summation:

    “There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

    " too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

    What would white history month look like to you GF?
    the British invasion to start with, the Beatles, the Who, etc. then the first flight at Kitty Hawk, Jimi Hendrix...best friggin guitar player to ever play ( I know, African American/American Indian with a touch of European decent) and just the fact that I like him, Henry Ford, Lita Ford (still beautiful as ever) Thomas Edison, Tesla, Rory Gallagher...just for starters.

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    Jimi Hendrix as part of your white history month. Good god.
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    -EV  8/14/93




  • would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

    The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

    please just read this summation:

    “There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

    " too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

    What would white history month look like to you GF?
    the British invasion to start with, the Beatles, the Who, etc. then the first flight at Kitty Hawk, Jimi Hendrix...best friggin guitar player to ever play ( I know, African American/American Indian with a touch of European decent) and just the fact that I like him, Henry Ford, Lita Ford (still beautiful as ever) Thomas Edison, Tesla, Rory Gallagher...just for starters.

    White people have much to be proud of, but we also have some things to be ashamed of as well.

    Further... we haven't learned from our shameful events. We keep repeating them even though we dress them up differently.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171

    would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

    typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

    The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

    please just read this summation:

    “There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

    " too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

    What would white history month look like to you GF?
    the British invasion to start with, the Beatles, the Who, etc. then the first flight at Kitty Hawk, Jimi Hendrix...best friggin guitar player to ever play ( I know, African American/American Indian with a touch of European decent) and just the fact that I like him, Henry Ford, Lita Ford (still beautiful as ever) Thomas Edison, Tesla, Rory Gallagher...just for starters.

    So your white history month would cover all the white history we're already taught? With a nod to Hendrix; the black musician all white kids know about.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Jimi Hendrix as part of your white history month. Good god.

    I've tried to tell you guy's color is not an issue for me, it is however fun to debate with you all about it.
    if we all want simple peace amongst each other why do we fuck it up with bullshit like specific nationality history months ?
    we should celebrate our lives as a whole, now, significant individual accomplishments that have helped to change the world or country I'm all for, color shouldn't be a factor, the good deeds of man should be.



  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359

    Jimi Hendrix as part of your white history month. Good god.

    I've tried to tell you guy's color is not an issue for me, it is however fun to debate with you all about it.
    if we all want simple peace amongst each other why do we fuck it up with bullshit like specific nationality history months ?
    we should celebrate our lives as a whole, now, significant individual accomplishments that have helped to change the world or country I'm all for, color shouldn't be a factor, the good deeds of man should be.



    I agree with the fundamental aspect of what you are trying to say here, but I explained the answer to this in a post above. I guess you didn't read it. here it is again, pay attention to the bolded part:

    The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,486

    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    in this case, I would say so. But that doesn't mean there isn't STILL legitimateinjustices perpetrated daily.

    my personal view on political correctness is its really about basic human decency and respect toward another human being. I can't see how exactly thats a bad thing?

    That isn't a bad thing.
    I think the problem some see with PC going to far is too many are overly sensitive to it. You can't bring up fatherless homes when talking about black crimes or someone will accuse you of being racist.
    When I was in college I was having a friendly conversation with 2 coworkers and the word "ghetto" was used. My white friend and I were written up and given a serious warning (like almost lost our job) for using racial slurs, and when we asked why the third person wasn't in trouble our manager responded "because she's black, she's allowed to use that word." I think that was my first personal experience of serious over PC reaction. Here we are some 20 year old kids having a friendly conversation on a lunch break, and our job was threatened because we were white and used the word "ghetto" to describe something, then were told our black coworker can use it since she's black.
    Probably don't need to mention I didn't have a good relationship with my manager after that and didn't give a crap about my job after that and my work productivity quickly declined.
    that scenario depends on how the argument is framed though doesn't it? in what way was that convo framed? what was the context?

    on the surface, a misapplication of hr protocols is what it sounds like to me. also got to ask, just how long ago was this?
    I don't even remember context, this was 12 years ago or so. Back when the word "ghetto" was used often to describe something shady, you know like if your bumper starts to fall off and you keep it together with duct tape, that's ghetto. It was something like that, innocent conversati0on, nothing to do with race or anything. I'm pretty sure the 2 of us who got into trouble weren't even the first ones to use it, it was our black friend who got a free pass for being black who used it and we just continued the conversation. And to get into as much trouble as we did was ridiculous. To take such offense to an innocent conversation like that just blew my mind at the time. Especially since I remember our defense being we didn't even use the word first (even though I didn't think anything wrong with it at the time anyway) and him following back with "that is our word, you can't have it).

    I felt like I got my revenge a month later. It was a job on campus and we had to sign up when we had finals so they wouldn't schedule us. I accidentally said I had PM finals and could work the AM shift. It was reversed, but didn't realized I wrote it down wrong. So I show up for the PM shift (having taking a final that morning) and immediate get my rear end handed to me. In 4 years working this same job, and this was a relatively new manager, this was the one and only time I missed a shift or was even late. The only other incident I ever had was using the word ghetto a few weeks early, but got along great with all our previous managers. So when I realized I wrote down the wrong times I apologized several times, but he kept chewing me out and said this is my second strike and to not let there be a third or I'm gone. He then immediately changes his attitude and says "but since its finals we're really short staffed right now and I could really use your help if you stay, everyone else ha PM finals today." My response was "so you mean I wasn't scheduled to work right? see you tomorrow."

    Context is everything. And if you don't remember the context, why bring it up? Still feeling aggrieved from an injustice of 12 years ago?
    Could you provide me with a context where it is appropriate for a supervisor to tell 2 employees they are being written up for a word they used since they are white, and the third employee, involved in the same discussion, is told it is okay to use that word because he is black? Same context, even same discussion, all 3 were friends. I cant think of any where that would be appropriate (if it was the N word then maybe, but we're talking about saying the word "ghetto").
    And I did tell you the context of the discussion, we were referring to something being "ghetto" as is being sketchy. I'm sure everyone remembers that being a common phrase back then, and to write 2 employees up for racial slurs while giving a third a free pass I think is ridiculous. What exactly it was we called ghetto I don't remember, but that was the word used and the context in which it was used.
    Would I now describe something as "ghetto"? Probably not, but a racial slur? no. And the topic of this thread was has PC gone too far, and I think this is one example where it has.
    And yeah I was pissed off, in 4 years this was the first incident I had of any kind and I didn't take being called a racist lightly.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171

    Jimi Hendrix as part of your white history month. Good god.

    I've tried to tell you guy's color is not an issue for me, it is however fun to debate with you all about it.
    if we all want simple peace amongst each other why do we fuck it up with bullshit like specific nationality history months ?
    we should celebrate our lives as a whole, now, significant individual accomplishments that have helped to change the world or country I'm all for, color shouldn't be a factor, the good deeds of man should be.



    Well, one reason we still have a black history month is because some people don't know the difference between race and nationality.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359
    mace1229 said:

    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mace1229 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    in this case, I would say so. But that doesn't mean there isn't STILL legitimateinjustices perpetrated daily.

    my personal view on political correctness is its really about basic human decency and respect toward another human being. I can't see how exactly thats a bad thing?

    That isn't a bad thing.
    I think the problem some see with PC going to far is too many are overly sensitive to it. You can't bring up fatherless homes when talking about black crimes or someone will accuse you of being racist.
    When I was in college I was having a friendly conversation with 2 coworkers and the word "ghetto" was used. My white friend and I were written up and given a serious warning (like almost lost our job) for using racial slurs, and when we asked why the third person wasn't in trouble our manager responded "because she's black, she's allowed to use that word." I think that was my first personal experience of serious over PC reaction. Here we are some 20 year old kids having a friendly conversation on a lunch break, and our job was threatened because we were white and used the word "ghetto" to describe something, then were told our black coworker can use it since she's black.
    Probably don't need to mention I didn't have a good relationship with my manager after that and didn't give a crap about my job after that and my work productivity quickly declined.
    that scenario depends on how the argument is framed though doesn't it? in what way was that convo framed? what was the context?

    on the surface, a misapplication of hr protocols is what it sounds like to me. also got to ask, just how long ago was this?
    I don't even remember context, this was 12 years ago or so. Back when the word "ghetto" was used often to describe something shady, you know like if your bumper starts to fall off and you keep it together with duct tape, that's ghetto. It was something like that, innocent conversati0on, nothing to do with race or anything. I'm pretty sure the 2 of us who got into trouble weren't even the first ones to use it, it was our black friend who got a free pass for being black who used it and we just continued the conversation. And to get into as much trouble as we did was ridiculous. To take such offense to an innocent conversation like that just blew my mind at the time. Especially since I remember our defense being we didn't even use the word first (even though I didn't think anything wrong with it at the time anyway) and him following back with "that is our word, you can't have it).

    I felt like I got my revenge a month later. It was a job on campus and we had to sign up when we had finals so they wouldn't schedule us. I accidentally said I had PM finals and could work the AM shift. It was reversed, but didn't realized I wrote it down wrong. So I show up for the PM shift (having taking a final that morning) and immediate get my rear end handed to me. In 4 years working this same job, and this was a relatively new manager, this was the one and only time I missed a shift or was even late. The only other incident I ever had was using the word ghetto a few weeks early, but got along great with all our previous managers. So when I realized I wrote down the wrong times I apologized several times, but he kept chewing me out and said this is my second strike and to not let there be a third or I'm gone. He then immediately changes his attitude and says "but since its finals we're really short staffed right now and I could really use your help if you stay, everyone else ha PM finals today." My response was "so you mean I wasn't scheduled to work right? see you tomorrow."

    Context is everything. And if you don't remember the context, why bring it up? Still feeling aggrieved from an injustice of 12 years ago?
    Could you provide me with a context where it is appropriate for a supervisor to tell 2 employees they are being written up for a word they used since they are white, and the third employee, involved in the same discussion, is told it is okay to use that word because he is black? Same context, even same discussion, all 3 were friends. I cant think of any where that would be appropriate (if it was the N word then maybe, but we're talking about saying the word "ghetto").
    And I did tell you the context of the discussion, we were referring to something being "ghetto" as is being sketchy. I'm sure everyone remembers that being a common phrase back then, and to write 2 employees up for racial slurs while giving a third a free pass I think is ridiculous. What exactly it was we called ghetto I don't remember, but that was the word used and the context in which it was used.
    Would I now describe something as "ghetto"? Probably not, but a racial slur? no. And the topic of this thread was has PC gone too far, and I think this is one example where it has.
    And yeah I was pissed off, in 4 years this was the first incident I had of any kind and I didn't take being called a racist lightly.
    fuck, I still use the word ghetto to describe a shitty part of town. I don't think it's considered a slur where I am. is calling it a "ghetto blaster" considered a slur? is that why it's called a boombox now?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    Not sure I've heard boombox used since 1990.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,359

    Not sure I've heard boombox used since 1990.

    what is it called now?
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    I'm not sure. Anyone?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,409

    Jimi Hendrix as part of your white history month. Good god.

    and the "British Invasion" which in large part took black music in the Blues and (re)Introduced to white America. Once again proving, whitey steals an idea or thing, claims it as their own and decimates the culture it came from. THATS white history.
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