Has the Race Card/ Political Correctness gone too far ?

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

It was easy.

I'll fix one: bigot = someone who believes white genocide is an actual thing

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

please just read this summation:

“There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

" too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

in this case, I would say so. But that doesn't mean there isn't STILL legitimateinjustices perpetrated daily.

my personal view on political correctness is its really about basic human decency and respect toward another human being. I can't see how exactly thats a bad thing?

That isn't a bad thing.
I think the problem some see with PC going to far is too many are overly sensitive to it. You can't bring up fatherless homes when talking about black crimes or someone will accuse you of being racist.
When I was in college I was having a friendly conversation with 2 coworkers and the word "ghetto" was used. My white friend and I were written up and given a serious warning (like almost lost our job) for using racial slurs, and when we asked why the third person wasn't in trouble our manager responded "because she's black, she's allowed to use that word." I think that was my first personal experience of serious over PC reaction. Here we are some 20 year old kids having a friendly conversation on a lunch break, and our job was threatened because we were white and used the word "ghetto" to describe something, then were told our black coworker can use it since she's black.
Probably don't need to mention I didn't have a good relationship with my manager after that and didn't give a crap about my job after that and my work productivity quickly declined.

that scenario depends on how the argument is framed though doesn't it? in what way was that convo framed? what was the context?

on the surface, a misapplication of hr protocols is what it sounds like to me. also got to ask, just how long ago was this?

I don't even remember context, this was 12 years ago or so. Back when the word "ghetto" was used often to describe something shady, you know like if your bumper starts to fall off and you keep it together with duct tape, that's ghetto. It was something like that, innocent conversati0on, nothing to do with race or anything. I'm pretty sure the 2 of us who got into trouble weren't even the first ones to use it, it was our black friend who got a free pass for being black who used it and we just continued the conversation. And to get into as much trouble as we did was ridiculous. To take such offense to an innocent conversation like that just blew my mind at the time. Especially since I remember our defense being we didn't even use the word first (even though I didn't think anything wrong with it at the time anyway) and him following back with "that is our word, you can't have it).

I felt like I got my revenge a month later. It was a job on campus and we had to sign up when we had finals so they wouldn't schedule us. I accidentally said I had PM finals and could work the AM shift. It was reversed, but didn't realized I wrote it down wrong. So I show up for the PM shift (having taking a final that morning) and immediate get my rear end handed to me. In 4 years working this same job, and this was a relatively new manager, this was the one and only time I missed a shift or was even late. The only other incident I ever had was using the word ghetto a few weeks early, but got along great with all our previous managers. So when I realized I wrote down the wrong times I apologized several times, but he kept chewing me out and said this is my second strike and to not let there be a third or I'm gone. He then immediately changes his attitude and says "but since its finals we're really short staffed right now and I could really use your help if you stay, everyone else ha PM finals today." My response was "so you mean I wasn't scheduled to work right? see you tomorrow."

You don't even remember? Let me guess, you're white and nervous?

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

please just read this summation:

“There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

" too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

in this case, I would say so. But that doesn't mean there isn't STILL legitimateinjustices perpetrated daily.

my personal view on political correctness is its really about basic human decency and respect toward another human being. I can't see how exactly thats a bad thing?

That isn't a bad thing.
I think the problem some see with PC going to far is too many are overly sensitive to it. You can't bring up fatherless homes when talking about black crimes or someone will accuse you of being racist.
When I was in college I was having a friendly conversation with 2 coworkers and the word "ghetto" was used. My white friend and I were written up and given a serious warning (like almost lost our job) for using racial slurs, and when we asked why the third person wasn't in trouble our manager responded "because she's black, she's allowed to use that word." I think that was my first personal experience of serious over PC reaction. Here we are some 20 year old kids having a friendly conversation on a lunch break, and our job was threatened because we were white and used the word "ghetto" to describe something, then were told our black coworker can use it since she's black.
Probably don't need to mention I didn't have a good relationship with my manager after that and didn't give a crap about my job after that and my work productivity quickly declined.

that scenario depends on how the argument is framed though doesn't it? in what way was that convo framed? what was the context?

on the surface, a misapplication of hr protocols is what it sounds like to me. also got to ask, just how long ago was this?

I don't even remember context, this was 12 years ago or so. Back when the word "ghetto" was used often to describe something shady, you know like if your bumper starts to fall off and you keep it together with duct tape, that's ghetto. It was something like that, innocent conversati0on, nothing to do with race or anything. I'm pretty sure the 2 of us who got into trouble weren't even the first ones to use it, it was our black friend who got a free pass for being black who used it and we just continued the conversation. And to get into as much trouble as we did was ridiculous. To take such offense to an innocent conversation like that just blew my mind at the time. Especially since I remember our defense being we didn't even use the word first (even though I didn't think anything wrong with it at the time anyway) and him following back with "that is our word, you can't have it).

I felt like I got my revenge a month later. It was a job on campus and we had to sign up when we had finals so they wouldn't schedule us. I accidentally said I had PM finals and could work the AM shift. It was reversed, but didn't realized I wrote it down wrong. So I show up for the PM shift (having taking a final that morning) and immediate get my rear end handed to me. In 4 years working this same job, and this was a relatively new manager, this was the one and only time I missed a shift or was even late. The only other incident I ever had was using the word ghetto a few weeks early, but got along great with all our previous managers. So when I realized I wrote down the wrong times I apologized several times, but he kept chewing me out and said this is my second strike and to not let there be a third or I'm gone. He then immediately changes his attitude and says "but since its finals we're really short staffed right now and I could really use your help if you stay, everyone else ha PM finals today." My response was "so you mean I wasn't scheduled to work right? see you tomorrow."

Godfather. said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Godfather. said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Godfather. said:

would it be inconvenient to some of you to request a White History Month ? ......and I'm sure the fried chicken would be no problem.

typical racist/ignorant comment. if you can't comprehend this paragraph:

The rejoinder that I and many others usually give (at this point it’s nearly perfunctory) is that the very existence of black history was denied for generations. Either by omission or by naked assertion, the possibility that blacks had contributed not only to American history but indeed to world history was precluded from contemplation, let alone taken seriously as scholarly pursuits. It is only very recently that this area has been considered worthy of academic exploration. As a result, we have a hole in our cultural understanding, requiring a special effort to acknowledge the role that a previously-excluded group of people played in our heritage.

please just read this summation:

“There is too much white history to squeeze into one month.”

" too much white history to squeeze into one month " you got that right, !

What would white history month look like to you GF?

the British invasion to start with, the Beatles, the Who, etc. then the first flight at Kitty Hawk, Jimi Hendrix...best friggin guitar player to ever play ( I know, African American/American Indian with a touch of European decent) and just the fact that I like him, Henry Ford, Lita Ford (still beautiful as ever) Thomas Edison, Tesla, Rory Gallagher...just for starters.