Boycott American goods - everyone outside the US

Philip_Ireland said:

LongestRoad said:

What really makes no sense is why you paid to be a Ten Club member if you aren't that into the band??? You can't post here without the membership so what was your motive for joining the fan club? Do you post in the other forums here or is your sole purpose for joining so you can post in AMT to dis the US and Pearl Jam?

You misunderstand me, I am not dissing the US itself, just their leader and his racist policies. Also, I never said I wasn't "into the band", all I said was I saw them live and in my opinion it wasn't very good.
This was intended as a protest to a right wing government not a discussion on the merits of live shows -there are other sections in the forum for that.

pjhawks said:

unsung said:

Hopefully a few of these trade deals get eliminated and we can get some jobs back.

do you really think manufacturing jobs are coming back to the US?

mace1229 said:

PJPOWER said:

pjhawks said:

unsung said:

Hopefully a few of these trade deals get eliminated and we can get some jobs back.

do you really think manufacturing jobs are coming back to the US?

I have serious doubts, but that would be awesome.

As long as there are countries who will have cheap, child labor and ignore environmental regulations and we (the US) are willing to trade with them, there will be more manufacturing overseas than here.
And at this point, with the debt we have to China, we could no way stop trade with them.

Philip_Ireland said:

PJ_Soul said:

Philip_Ireland said:

LongestRoad said:

What really makes no sense is why you paid to be a Ten Club member if you aren't that into the band??? You can't post here without the membership so what was your motive for joining the fan club? Do you post in the other forums here or is your sole purpose for joining so you can post in AMT to dis the US and Pearl Jam?

You misunderstand me, I am not dissing the US itself, just their leader and his racist policies. Also, I never said I wasn't "into the band", all I said was I saw them live and in my opinion it wasn't very good.
This was intended as a protest to a right wing government not a discussion on the merits of live shows -there are other sections in the forum for that.

Which show did you see? Just curious to check out a show that a fan thought wasn't very good. I'm sure PJ has had bad shows in their long career, just curious to see an example.

We are in the "Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion" thread. Please talk about the quality of shows elsewhere. I intended this to be a comment on American industry not cullture

Philip_Ireland said:

PJ_Soul said:

Philip_Ireland said:

PJ_Soul said:

Philip_Ireland said:

LongestRoad said:

What really makes no sense is why you paid to be a Ten Club member if you aren't that into the band??? You can't post here without the membership so what was your motive for joining the fan club? Do you post in the other forums here or is your sole purpose for joining so you can post in AMT to dis the US and Pearl Jam?

You misunderstand me, I am not dissing the US itself, just their leader and his racist policies. Also, I never said I wasn't "into the band", all I said was I saw them live and in my opinion it wasn't very good.
This was intended as a protest to a right wing government not a discussion on the merits of live shows -there are other sections in the forum for that.

Which show did you see? Just curious to check out a show that a fan thought wasn't very good. I'm sure PJ has had bad shows in their long career, just curious to see an example.

We are in the "Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion" thread. Please talk about the quality of shows elsewhere. I intended this to be a comment on American industry not cullture

Why don't you just tell me which show it was? I just wanted to check it out.

Yeah, you're right. If someone else says the show I was at was great, then I'm wrong. It's only my opinion. Again we are in the "Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion" thread

PJ_Soul said:

Philip_Ireland said:

PJ_Soul said:

Philip_Ireland said:

LongestRoad said:

What really makes no sense is why you paid to be a Ten Club member if you aren't that into the band??? You can't post here without the membership so what was your motive for joining the fan club? Do you post in the other forums here or is your sole purpose for joining so you can post in AMT to dis the US and Pearl Jam?

You misunderstand me, I am not dissing the US itself, just their leader and his racist policies. Also, I never said I wasn't "into the band", all I said was I saw them live and in my opinion it wasn't very good.
This was intended as a protest to a right wing government not a discussion on the merits of live shows -there are other sections in the forum for that.

Which show did you see? Just curious to check out a show that a fan thought wasn't very good. I'm sure PJ has had bad shows in their long career, just curious to see an example.

We are in the "Politics, current events - reasoned debate and discussion" thread. Please talk about the quality of shows elsewhere. I intended this to be a comment on American industry not cullture

Why don't you just tell me which show it was? I just wanted to check it out.

HesCalledDyer said:

bootlegger10 said:

So what was the beef with Uber? They helped people get to and from the airport?

Oh the humanity!

As a Trump opposer, I was (and am) disappointed in the Uber ban movement. It was reactionary and thought without consequence, which is the very thing we are opposed to with Trump and his words, actions, and policies.
The New York taxi drivers union joined the immigration ban protests by going on an hour-long strike. During this hour, Uber - whose CEO is on Trump's economic advisory committee - stated they would suspend peak pricing and many took that as a sleight to the taxi union and as support of Trump's immigration ban. Lyft then pledged to donate $1million to the ACLU and everyone started deleting Uber and downloading and using Lyft.
Uber's CEO has since spoke out against the executive order and stated they did not intend to break up the strike. They've also pledged to put $3million into a legal fund to help drivers affected by the ban and are offering immigration assistance to any affected employees.

bootlegger10 said:

pjhawks said:

unsung said:

Hopefully a few of these trade deals get eliminated and we can get some jobs back.

do you really think manufacturing jobs are coming back to the US?

There are a ton of manufacturing jobs here now. We just have so many unqualified people in this country that can't show up to work two days in a row or pass a drug test because they like Meth too much in the Midwest.

bootlegger10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

bootlegger10 said:

So what was the beef with Uber? They helped people get to and from the airport?

Oh the humanity!

As a Trump opposer, I was (and am) disappointed in the Uber ban movement. It was reactionary and thought without consequence, which is the very thing we are opposed to with Trump and his words, actions, and policies.
The New York taxi drivers union joined the immigration ban protests by going on an hour-long strike. During this hour, Uber - whose CEO is on Trump's economic advisory committee - stated they would suspend peak pricing and many took that as a sleight to the taxi union and as support of Trump's immigration ban. Lyft then pledged to donate $1million to the ACLU and everyone started deleting Uber and downloading and using Lyft.
Uber's CEO has since spoke out against the executive order and stated they did not intend to break up the strike. They've also pledged to put $3million into a legal fund to help drivers affected by the ban and are offering immigration assistance to any affected employees.

Did Lyft suspend its services? No. Are they just donating $1,000,000 because they see blood in the water around Uber? Yes.

Are we to the point that if you don't shut down your business it means that you are a supporter of whatever law someone else is protesting and are subject to a boycott? The taxi cab drivers decided to make a statement. That doesn't bind Uber to be required to follow their lead whether they support the law or not. This is a scary time. This is why the left scares me so much.

HesCalledDyer said:

bootlegger10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

bootlegger10 said:

So what was the beef with Uber? They helped people get to and from the airport?

Oh the humanity!

As a Trump opposer, I was (and am) disappointed in the Uber ban movement. It was reactionary and thought without consequence, which is the very thing we are opposed to with Trump and his words, actions, and policies.
The New York taxi drivers union joined the immigration ban protests by going on an hour-long strike. During this hour, Uber - whose CEO is on Trump's economic advisory committee - stated they would suspend peak pricing and many took that as a sleight to the taxi union and as support of Trump's immigration ban. Lyft then pledged to donate $1million to the ACLU and everyone started deleting Uber and downloading and using Lyft.
Uber's CEO has since spoke out against the executive order and stated they did not intend to break up the strike. They've also pledged to put $3million into a legal fund to help drivers affected by the ban and are offering immigration assistance to any affected employees.

Did Lyft suspend its services? No. Are they just donating $1,000,000 because they see blood in the water around Uber? Yes.

Are we to the point that if you don't shut down your business it means that you are a supporter of whatever law someone else is protesting and are subject to a boycott? The taxi cab drivers decided to make a statement. That doesn't bind Uber to be required to follow their lead whether they support the law or not. This is a scary time. This is why the left scares me so much.

I wasn't fucking arguing with you, just answering your question. Jesus Christ.