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You "hear" of civil war. From who? Some asshole blogger or social media troll? That will not happen. It's the same thing conservatives spouted off online when stating there'd be a civil war if Secretary Clinton had won. Come back to reality, man and off your high horse where you get to blame everyone because you're above everyone with your Libertarian stance (when it's convienient).0
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Seems justified to me. Shit has to hit the fan eventually in any society. Maybe this is the US's time (again).unsung said:
It isn't over yet, I hear the left calling for civil war.Jason P said:Bummed out that you never got to use your bug-out bag?
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not sure how civil war would occur in 2017 United States. it's not a clear "this area" vs "that area" anymore. just everyone attack washington? LOLPJ_Soul said:By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
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Third party voters have been blamed. It's pretty much everyone's fault that trump is president, except for the people that actually voted for him.InHiding80 said:For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.
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How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?InHiding80 said:For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
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There are all kinds of possible scenarios, and one option could be determined by lines drawn on a map I suppose - could end up being south/mid vs north/west/east, who knows?? That would depend on the State politicians I guess. But I'm more picturing something like a military coup led by dissenting federal and state politicians...... are there enough politicians and military leaders in America who care enough about the US not becoming a fascist dictatorship, and who care little enough about their own cushy, relatively stable stations in life for such a thing to happen? I don't know. Far crazier shit has happened. If Trump and Bannon keep going the way they are and actually play out what they have apparently been fantasizing about for years now that they are in a position to actually go for it, I think this kind of thing might be inevitable. Are Trump and Bannon and friends crazy enough to do it? Hell yes. Let's just see if they have the will and energy.HughFreakingDillon said:
not sure how civil war would occur in 2017 United States. it's not a clear "this area" vs "that area" anymore. just everyone attack washington? LOLPJ_Soul said:With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?unsung said:
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?InHiding80 said:For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.PJ_Soul said:
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?unsung said:
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?InHiding80 said:For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.0 -
Because that's what it is, endless and uncontrolled.unsung said:
Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.PJ_Soul said:
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?unsung said:
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?InHiding80 said:For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
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I'm sorry, but this seems like fantasy land. I do not foresee the US getting into a military involved civil war. I could picture another nation attempting an attack on US interests overseas or on the mainland, but as far as American citizens picking up arms and attacking each other on a mass scale...we are a long way from that and it would be a fairly one sided victory if it were between polarized liberals and conservatives. The Vietnam War created some mass retaliation and unrest...but a civil war? I just cannot imagine a scenario where either side of the equation would get enough support for anything effective that would not get shut down fairly quickly. Not to mention that the current military climate seems to be backing Trump, not opposing.PJ_Soul said:
There are all kinds of possible scenarios, and one option could be determined by lines drawn on a map I suppose - could end up being south/mid vs north/west/east, who knows?? That would depend on the State politicians I guess. But I'm more picturing something like a military coup led by dissenting federal and state politicians...... are there enough politicians and military leaders in America who care enough about the US not becoming a fascist dictatorship, and who care little enough about their own cushy, relatively stable stations in life for such a thing to happen? I don't know. Far crazier shit has happened. If Trump and Bannon keep going the way they are and actually play out what they have apparently been fantasizing about for years now that they are in a position to actually go for it, I think this kind of thing might be inevitable. Are Trump and Bannon and friends crazy enough to do it? Hell yes. Let's just see if they have the will and energy.HughFreakingDillon said:
not sure how civil war would occur in 2017 United States. it's not a clear "this area" vs "that area" anymore. just everyone attack washington? LOLPJ_Soul said:Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
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Not anymore, thankfully.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because that's what it is, endless and uncontrolled.unsung said:
Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.PJ_Soul said:
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?unsung said:
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?InHiding80 said:For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
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And because its an economic drain on the US economy:
https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/economic-benefits-immigration-5712.html
http://clas.berkeley.edu/research/immigration-economic-benefits-immigration
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2014/12/02/How-Immigrants-Boost-US-Economic-Growth
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Ok, so that's what it was before? Endless and uncontrolled?unsung said:
Not anymore, thankfully.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because that's what it is, endless and uncontrolled.unsung said:
Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.PJ_Soul said:
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?unsung said:
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?InHiding80 said:For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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When was it endless and uncontrolled?unsung said:
Not anymore, thankfully.Halifax2TheMax said:
Because that's what it is, endless and uncontrolled.unsung said:
Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.PJ_Soul said:
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?unsung said:
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?InHiding80 said:For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.0 -
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