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  • SteffyLou
    SteffyLou Posts: 370
    NewJPage said:

    vaggar99 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    it took 5 people to play those songs.
    yep. and Porch is not this good anymore
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPGiwRfGGkU
    This is pretty badass, can't deny that.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,995
    HesCalledDyer said:

    bbiggs said:

    lolobugg said:

    igotid88 said:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/original-pearl-jam-drummer-dave-krusen-talks-hall-of-fame-w457697

    Excellent. This is the way you would want a former band member to act.
    Very classy of Krusen. Well done.
    Really cool interview. Seems like a very humble guy and, as he says himself, it seems as though the other guys played a part in that maturity.
    Nothing at all against Krusen, but to be fair, you cant judge a person's class by how they react to receiving an honour. Had he acted like this if he were in Abbruzzesse's shoes, then yes, it would be classy.

    Dave A should have simply said "congrats to my former band at being inducted, and although the hall chose to not include me, id like to believe my contributions over the years had some kind of affect on their nomination". After all his whining and foot stomping, I woukdnt be surprised if this soured the other guys from mentioning him at the ceremony.

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  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    bbiggs said:

    lolobugg said:

    igotid88 said:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/original-pearl-jam-drummer-dave-krusen-talks-hall-of-fame-w457697

    Excellent. This is the way you would want a former band member to act.
    Very classy of Krusen. Well done.
    Really cool interview. Seems like a very humble guy and, as he says himself, it seems as though the other guys played a part in that maturity.
    Nothing at all against Krusen, but to be fair, you cant judge a person's class by how they react to receiving an honour. Had he acted like this if he were in Abbruzzesse's shoes, then yes, it would be classy.

    Dave A should have simply said "congrats to my former band at being inducted, and although the hall chose to not include me, id like to believe my contributions over the years had some kind of affect on their nomination". After all his whining and foot stomping, I woukdnt be surprised if this soured the other guys from mentioning him at the ceremony.

    +1
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    bbiggs said:

    lolobugg said:

    igotid88 said:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/original-pearl-jam-drummer-dave-krusen-talks-hall-of-fame-w457697

    Excellent. This is the way you would want a former band member to act.
    Very classy of Krusen. Well done.
    Really cool interview. Seems like a very humble guy and, as he says himself, it seems as though the other guys played a part in that maturity.
    Nothing at all against Krusen, but to be fair, you cant judge a person's class by how they react to receiving an honour. Had he acted like this if he were in Abbruzzesse's shoes, then yes, it would be classy.

    Dave A should have simply said "congrats to my former band at being inducted, and although the hall chose to not include me, id like to believe my contributions over the years had some kind of affect on their nomination". After all his whining and foot stomping, I woukdnt be surprised if this soured the other guys from mentioning him at the ceremony.

    i agree somewhat. i guess none of us know the true circumstances surrounding his departure from the band? that must play into it. anyway, the Hall is ridiculous. we'd probably be better off without it.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,053
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    Insert any bass player from 91-94 and the result is the same.
    Well... considering this particular bass player was cofounder of the band I'm going to say that statement is inaccurate.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,995
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    Insert any bass player from 91-94 and the result is the same.
    ludicrous.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,180
    vaggar99 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    it took 5 people to play those songs.
    True but ed made this band what they are in terms of popularity.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,995
    mcgruff10 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    it took 5 people to play those songs.
    True but ed made this band what they are in terms of popularity.
    stone and jeff wrote Ten. that is incredibly significant.
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    Insert any bass player from 91-94 and the result is the same.
    further confirmation of the end of reason and sanity.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,180
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    it took 5 people to play those songs.
    True but ed made this band what they are in terms of popularity.
    stone and jeff wrote Ten. that is incredibly significant.
    I m not debating that. Although ed wrote porch ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited December 2016
    mcgruff10 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    it took 5 people to play those songs.
    True but ed made this band what they are in terms of popularity.
    sure he did. after all a Gibson guitar and Fender guitar are gonna have the same tone every time no matter who plays them. same goes for any instrument. the singer cannot be replicated. I would say its more a circumstance of the position more than the singer being the one who makes the band what it is. but again, a good drummer is too often undervalued and perhaps one of the reasons so few bands really ever make a living in this business. why? cuz the drummer keeps the tempo. without it, nothing works. and when you have a phenomenal drummer like Dave, you're gonna get albums like Vs and Vitalogy. Albums written with great songs that were made to sound nearly perfect in the studio. Someone had to keep all that together.
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  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,411
    edited December 2016
    NewJPage said:

    vaggar99 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    it took 5 people to play those songs.
    yep. and Porch is not this good anymore
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPGiwRfGGkU
    Love this. This is what sold me on Dave (skip to min 1:24)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYoo5SDM9A&t=1m24s
    Post edited by OceansJenny on
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,995
    mcgruff10 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    vaggar99 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Insert any drummer from 91-94 and the result is the same. People were hooked into ed ved, plain and simple.

    it took 5 people to play those songs.
    True but ed made this band what they are in terms of popularity.
    stone and jeff wrote Ten. that is incredibly significant.
    I m not debating that. Although ed wrote porch ;)
    ok, so I guess maybe I missed your point. that Ed would have been as popular without the other guys? to me, no stone or jeff, and no pearl jam or Ed.

    I think the reason Ed got so popular is because he became such a recluse.
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  • Jbarker
    Jbarker Alberta Posts: 560
    They all rightfully deserve their attention.
    Dave K. drummed on Ten which got them out of the gates and on to the map.
    Dave A. assisted with the most tumultuous time for any band - the follow up albums.
    Jack contributed to 2 of their most iconic albums that cemented a faithful fan base.
    Matt has provided a glue that has bound them all together at a time when many bands coast into twilight.
    If anything, the R&RHoF is only further supporting their own irrelevance.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,995
    Jbarker said:

    They all rightfully deserve their attention.
    Dave K. drummed on Ten which got them out of the gates and on to the map.
    Dave A. assisted with the most tumultuous time for any band - the follow up albums.
    Jack contributed to 2 of their most iconic albums that cemented a faithful fan base.
    Matt has provided a glue that has bound them all together at a time when many bands coast into twilight.
    If anything, the R&RHoF is only further supporting their own irrelevance.

    very well said.
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    I still don't know if I care about this or don't give a fuck in the least. Somewhere in the middle I guess.
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  • cydonia
    cydonia Denbighshire, North Wales , UK Posts: 456
    Very spinal tap isn't it! Don't know what the big deal is just acknowledge them all...all played a part and make the band what it is today...as someone pointed out the original Nirvanas drummer wasn't inducted, which shows the hall of fame is basically a hall of FAME ...and not a recognition of the hard road before money was made. Dave A should quietly accept the decision and not taint the ceremony...although I believe he should be there. Great for the band...although I not a fan of this sort of thing...seems elitist....arts art and not a human being becoming a golden god. Anyway...congratulations!
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,995
    cydonia said:

    Very spinal tap isn't it! Don't know what the big deal is just acknowledge them all...all played a part and make the band what it is today...as someone pointed out the original Nirvanas drummer wasn't inducted, which shows the hall of fame is basically a hall of FAME ...and not a recognition of the hard road before money was made. Dave A should quietly accept the decision and not taint the ceremony...although I believe he should be there. Great for the band...although I not a fan of this sort of thing...seems elitist....arts art and not a human being becoming a golden god. Anyway...congratulations!

    and Dave Grohl was classy as fuck at the ceremony. He told the world that his drumming on Nevermind was copied from Chad's drumming on the demos. no question that chad should have been in.
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  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
    I wonder how many more pages will be added to this thread?
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,324
    cydonia said:

    as someone pointed out the original Nirvanas drummer wasn't inducted, which shows the hall of fame is basically a hall of FAME ...and not a recognition of the hard road before money was made.

    Dave A was there for both of those periods though. He slogged through the small clubs for little pay and he drummed for the biggest band in the world. It's part of why it makes no sense not to include him
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