Hillary won more votes for President

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    Bentleyspop said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Donald Trump, without any evidence, sides with Putin over the US Intelligence Community. That's a stunning development. He forgets which side he is on... oh wait, he doesn't. He's on HIS side.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/10/politics/donald-trump-response-russian-hacking/index.html

    Remember when Russia was the enemy? :murica:
    It represents a shocking turnaround in American politics. I'm all for giving Trump a chance and judging him by his actions. These are his actions.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    JimmyV said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Donald Trump, without any evidence, sides with Putin over the US Intelligence Community. That's a stunning development. He forgets which side he is on... oh wait, he doesn't. He's on HIS side.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/10/politics/donald-trump-response-russian-hacking/index.html

    Remember when Russia was the enemy? :murica:
    It represents a shocking turnaround in American politics. I'm all for giving Trump a chance and judging him by his actions. These are his actions.
    And for me, it's not even about Russia. His transition team is publicly bashing the professionals in the CIA and siding with the foreign power. And they are doing it by bringing up the Iraq war, in which the professional intelligence was politicized by the regime no longer there. The whole thing is super fucked up.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    What is messed up is that everything that President-elect Trump is doing while in transition is being tarred and feathered.
    He hasn't even done anything yet under the official POTUS rank yet common libs/radlibs continue to hate him.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    What is messed up is that everything that President-elect Trump is doing while in transition is being tarred and feathered.
    He hasn't even done anything yet under the official POTUS rank yet common libs/radlibs continue to hate him.

    Well don't you think it's ironic that he ran under a populous platform but is nominating insiders? I could care less, but I would be aggravated if I voted for him under the "drain the swamp" mantra.

    Plus, what has he done to make "common libs/radlibs" stop hating him? Democrats and liberals hated him before the election, why would anyone stop now?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    Meanwhile...

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    What is messed up is that everything that President-elect Trump is doing while in transition is being tarred and feathered.
    He hasn't even done anything yet under the official POTUS rank yet common libs/radlibs continue to hate him.

    What an interesting choice of words
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    What is messed up is that everything that President-elect Trump is doing while in transition is being tarred and feathered.
    He hasn't even done anything yet under the official POTUS rank yet common libs/radlibs continue to hate him.

    Still waiting for tax docs.....
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    edited December 2016
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    What is messed up is that everything that President-elect Trump is doing while in transition is being tarred and feathered.
    He hasn't even done anything yet under the official POTUS rank yet common libs/radlibs continue to hate him.

    ....and true conservatives, of which trump is not. gee, wonder why?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Repeating over and over again that Hillary has more votes is not working.
    Just accept that President-elect Trump won w/ less votes.
    This thread

    "is not working" at what?

    Is your reading comprehension really so poor that you don't understand what is written here or are you just trolling?
    I honestly don't know on this one.

    It has been accepted.
    If you don't like this thread, you are free to fuck off, just like you are free to get the fuck out of all the other threads you only enter to talk shit in.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Free said:

    If you can't see how she didn't actually campaign in all states, only giving celebrity fundraisers, not doing enough rallies, not listening to the real voters in middle America, hiding out and not doing press conferences nor talking to actual voters??? If you continue to think she ran a great campaign??

    One word: DENIAL.

    She didn't have to lose, but she was lazy. Her campaign and her party screwed Bernie Sanders. Assumed she was going to win no problem. how ultimately embarrassing.

    Only three states (PA, MI, WI) didn't go as planned. It should have been an easy win. We all underestimated the stupidity of the american voter.
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    If you can't see how she didn't actually campaign in all states, only giving celebrity fundraisers, not doing enough rallies, not listening to the real voters in middle America, hiding out and not doing press conferences nor talking to actual voters??? If you continue to think she ran a great campaign??

    One word: DENIAL.

    She didn't have to lose, but she was lazy. Her campaign and her party screwed Bernie Sanders. Assumed she was going to win no problem. how ultimately embarrassing.

    Only three states (PA, MI, WI) didn't go as planned. It should have been an easy win. We all underestimated the stupidity of the american voter.
    Yet the stupidity of the American voter does not supercede how lazy, weak and unpopular the Dem candidate was. The Dem party is at fault for President Trump.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Free said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    If you can't see how she didn't actually campaign in all states, only giving celebrity fundraisers, not doing enough rallies, not listening to the real voters in middle America, hiding out and not doing press conferences nor talking to actual voters??? If you continue to think she ran a great campaign??

    One word: DENIAL.

    She didn't have to lose, but she was lazy. Her campaign and her party screwed Bernie Sanders. Assumed she was going to win no problem. how ultimately embarrassing.

    Only three states (PA, MI, WI) didn't go as planned. It should have been an easy win. We all underestimated the stupidity of the american voter.
    Yet the stupidity of the American voter does not supercede how lazy, weak and unpopular the Dem candidate was. The Dem party is at fault for President Trump.
    So unpopular that she won the popular vote. That argument doesn't fly.

    Dems fucked up for sure but the wildcard was Trump and his fucking mouth. People saw him as an outsider and believed his line of bullshit.

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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    If you can't see how she didn't actually campaign in all states, only giving celebrity fundraisers, not doing enough rallies, not listening to the real voters in middle America, hiding out and not doing press conferences nor talking to actual voters??? If you continue to think she ran a great campaign??

    One word: DENIAL.

    She didn't have to lose, but she was lazy. Her campaign and her party screwed Bernie Sanders. Assumed she was going to win no problem. how ultimately embarrassing.

    Only three states (PA, MI, WI) didn't go as planned. It should have been an easy win. We all underestimated the stupidity of the american voter.
    Yet the stupidity of the American voter does not supercede how lazy, weak and unpopular the Dem candidate was. The Dem party is at fault for President Trump.
    So unpopular that she won the popular vote. That argument doesn't fly.

    Dems fucked up for sure but the wildcard was Trump and his fucking mouth. People saw him as an outsider and believed his line of bullshit.

    So unpopular that thousands of voters left the presidential option blank and only voted down ballot.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Free said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    If you can't see how she didn't actually campaign in all states, only giving celebrity fundraisers, not doing enough rallies, not listening to the real voters in middle America, hiding out and not doing press conferences nor talking to actual voters??? If you continue to think she ran a great campaign??

    One word: DENIAL.

    She didn't have to lose, but she was lazy. Her campaign and her party screwed Bernie Sanders. Assumed she was going to win no problem. how ultimately embarrassing.

    Only three states (PA, MI, WI) didn't go as planned. It should have been an easy win. We all underestimated the stupidity of the american voter.
    Yet the stupidity of the American voter does not supercede how lazy, weak and unpopular the Dem candidate was. The Dem party is at fault for President Trump.
    So unpopular that she won the popular vote. That argument doesn't fly.

    Dems fucked up for sure but the wildcard was Trump and his fucking mouth. People saw him as an outsider and believed his line of bullshit.

    So unpopular that thousands of voters left the presidential option blank and only voted down ballot.
    Well now they have a Trump presidency and everything that comes with it. And you're the first person I've ever heard call Clinton lazy.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    I don't think Clinton was lazy. I do think the campaign suffered from being misinformed, arrogant and stubborn. Misinformed in that they believed the Midwest was already won. Arrogant in thinking they didn't need to campaign there. And stubborn in thinking that demographics and gender alone were going to win the race for her. I can understand why they thought these things. I can understand why they made the strategic decisions they did. But I also know that they were wrong. This was a winnable race that they just didn't win.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    JimmyV said:

    I don't think Clinton was lazy. I do think the campaign suffered from being misinformed, arrogant and stubborn. Misinformed in that they believed the Midwest was already won. Arrogant in thinking they didn't need to campaign there. And stubborn in thinking that demographics and gender alone were going to win the race for her. I can understand why they thought these things. I can understand why they made the strategic decisions they did. But I also know that they were wrong. This was a winnable race that they just didn't win.

    Nailed it.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited December 2016
    Ha! LAZY is assuming you had this election in the bag. And then, not campaigning or talking to voters, only hosting celebrity fundraisers.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Free said:

    Ha! LAZY is assuming you had this election in the bag. And then, not campaigning or talking to voters, only hosting celebrity fundraisers.

    You're actually the one that assumed the election was in the bag. You posted about it innumerable times. And she campaigned relentlessly, considering she's a 70 year old person.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited December 2016
    Knowing your apologist behavior for Clinton before the election? Ha! Your STILL apologizing. How's that working?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Free said:

    Knowing your apologist behavior for Clinton before the election? Ha! Your STILL apologizing. How's that working?

    Really? Are you just the king of invention or king of projection too? What am I apologizing for? Where am I apologizing? We have a lot in common... we both backed people who lost. The difference is that most of us are taking it like adults and trying to figure out where to go next, how to close the gap. I don't know what in the fuck you've been doing since Bernie's loss, certainly not trying to figure out how to influence people to your point of view. You've actually spent your time doing the opposite.
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