Hillary won more votes for President

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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    It's all Russia's fault - Obama

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419
  • lolobugg
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    Free said:

    Did anyone actually Watch the video I posted?

    summation please.... I can't watch youtube at work.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    JimmyV said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JimmyV said:

    Introspection from Democrats and an honest assessment of what happened here would be good to see. It's true, there has not been much of that yet.

    Of course the aging old guard doesn't want to step down. Why would they? People's natural instincts is to protect themselves. The question is who is the new guard? Obama was ahead of the curve and his generation. But where are the other leaders? And how do the Dems stop being a coastal party, which really played out in this election. What are the policies that brings the older, white, lower to middle class mid westerners back into the fold?
    Honestly...I don't know. Not for sure. But I do think it starts with remembering how to talk to those older, white voters and not mocking or ridiculing them all the time. I completely misjudged how the "deplorable" comment resonated in some circles. I laughed at it and that is my bad. The Democrats cannot make that mistake again.
    She was clearly talking about the racists that pollute Trump's voter base.. the alt-right, Leninist types who offer nothing productive to this world, only destruction. But I get your point. Making the comment, whether it's true or not, gave ammunition to be manipulated. She should have learned the lesson of 2012 when Romney got mauled for the "46% taker" comment. The bottom line is that a POTUS is the POTUS of everyone, whether they voted for you or not. Attack the candidate, not the voter.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Free said:

    Did anyone actually Watch the video I posted?

    I did. I have a thing for Nancy
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,204
    Free said:

    It's all Russia's fault - Obama

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419

    Yeah we should just ignore it....smart
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    It's all Russia's fault - Obama

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419

    Yeah we should just ignore it....smart
    Correct....Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News,
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,204
    JC29856 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    It's all Russia's fault - Obama

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419

    Yeah we should just ignore it....smart
    Correct....Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News,
    It's not fake. Obama ordered a full review to be completed before he leaves office.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Gern Blansten said:

    JC29856 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    It's all Russia's fault - Obama

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419

    Yeah we should just ignore it....smart
    Correct....Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News,
    It's not fake. Obama ordered a full review to be completed before he leaves office.
    You can't expect someone who believes fake news, to actually understand what fake news is.

    conservatives might be more likely to fall for fake news
    40 studies were reviewed on differences in this need for cognition between liberals and conservatives. Of those, 25 showed a "significant, negative" association between need for cognition and right-wing orientation. In all but three of the others, there was a similar negative association but it wasn't statistically significant.

    In other words, liberals were slightly more predisposed to think critically than conservatives.

    But we knew that already, didn't we?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    You won't hear 5 Deferment Don talk about Goldman Sachs now!

    http://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php

    http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/Goldman-Sachs-is-responsible-for-a-massive-chunk-of-the-Trump-rally-GS-1001580753
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    You won't hear 5 Deferment Don talk about Goldman Sachs now!

    http://www.streetinsider.com/dr/news.php

    http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/Goldman-Sachs-is-responsible-for-a-massive-chunk-of-the-Trump-rally-GS-1001580753

    Goldman at pre bailout highs!!!! The rally before the crash?
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    lolobugg said:

    Don't call it a comeback, she's been here for years.
    She ran a poor campaign, and now she's in tears.

    :lol:
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Gern Blansten said:

    JC29856 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    It's all Russia's fault - Obama

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419

    Yeah we should just ignore it....smart
    Correct....Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News,
    It's not fake. Obama ordered a full review to be completed before he leaves office.
    ...because Russia is involved in voter fraud and causing Hillary to lose.

    :lol:
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited December 2016
    lolobugg said:

    Free said:

    Did anyone actually Watch the video I posted?

    summation please.... I can't watch youtube at work.
    Will democrats ever stop punching themselves in the face? Weak outcome for the Dems means that they will win the next election according to Pelosi. She sees no reason to change ANYTHING within the party.

    It's Cenk from TYT, worth seeing when you get a chance.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    JimmyV said:

    If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?

    Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Free said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    JC29856 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    Free said:

    It's all Russia's fault - Obama

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-orders-full-review-of-election-relate-hacking-232419

    Yeah we should just ignore it....smart
    Correct....Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News, Ignore Fake News,
    It's not fake. Obama ordered a full review to be completed before he leaves office.
    ...because Russia is involved in voter fraud and causing Hillary to lose.

    :lol:
    This just in: Report Shows Vast Reach of Russian Cheating
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Free said:

    JimmyV said:

    If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?

    Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
    This isn't (or shouldn't be) a partisan issue. There is a chance a foreign government sought to covertly influence the outcome of our election. Of course it should be investigated. That the Democrats have not carried themselves well does not change that.

    An investigation isn't seeking refuge in anything.
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Brilliant move on the Dems part to claim Fake News is responsible for Clinton's loss. The Dems can then justify not having to do any self-reflection on their many problems with the election, never have to make any changes, and continue with business as usual. Democrats will do ANYTHING to avoid self-reflection rather than change policy or strategy.




    A Clinton Fan Manufactured Fake News That MSNBC Personalities Spread to Discredit WikiLeaks Docs

    http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/12/09/clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-msnbc-personalities-spread-discredit-wikileaks
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Free said:

    JimmyV said:

    If there is even a whiff of Russian involvement it should be investigated. What argument is there against that?

    Oh I don't know, the Dems who refuse to acknowledge that they had a weak candidate with a weak campaign, and one of the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history? Seeking refuge in blaming and investigating Russia as the culprit does NOT help this weakened party. It makes them look worse as they continue to drop responsibility and seek blame elsewhere STILL - 4 1/2 weeks later.
    Weak campaign?
    80,000 people in 3 states decided this election
    vs
    2,600,000 popular vote margin across 50 states
    That's hardly what I would consider weak.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    It's weak when their candidate was one of the two most popular candidates in US history... then LOST. It's weak that they can't accept responsibility for their loss. It's weak when they keep blaming Russia for their problems. It's weak when they're using the "fake news" news stories to push their agenda. (Ahem, above)

    Weak, weak, weak.
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