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  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    Weston1283 said:

    I definitely want to upgrade the speakers, as I love my turntable and Pre-amp and Amp

    Speakers are the last thing I will want to upgrade for awhile. Currently researching Klipsch and Elac brands.
  • BIGDaddyWil
    BIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,080
    MedozK said:

    Weston1283 said:

    I definitely want to upgrade the speakers, as I love my turntable and Pre-amp and Amp

    Speakers are the last thing I will want to upgrade for awhile. Currently researching Klipsch and Elac brands.
    Thinking about the Elac's as well.
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  • bflynn1
    bflynn1 Posts: 1,394
    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    I build my own audio cables. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying brand name "audiophile" cables and just as good of quality.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    I don't know... there are lots of opinions on this. I've never bought Blue Jean cables or anything although those are popular with audiophiles. I just use thick cables with nice connectors. To me Monoprice work great, although some would probably say otherwise. I would definitely use XLR cables if you have balanced outputs on your amp.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    HesCalledDyer said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    I build my own audio cables. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying brand name "audiophile" cables and just as good of quality.
    I'd really like to do this. Gotta tutorial you've used? I have built my own sub before and that turned out pretty well.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,447
    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    Bestbuy has a "Hi-fi" shop in some of their locations. I wanted to buy some speaker wires, 10G. They came back with 8' cables for $300 each...

    Someone PLEASE explain to me how one form of copper is 30x more expensive than another...

    I ended up buying 10g cheaper wire...
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    mrussel1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    I build my own audio cables. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying brand name "audiophile" cables and just as good of quality.
    I'd really like to do this. Gotta tutorial you've used? I have built my own sub before and that turned out pretty well.
    If you can solder, that's all the skill you need. And with most common connectors available in crimp or screw-type forms, you don't even have to solder. I prefer the solder-type, though, as its more permanent.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    HesCalledDyer said:

    mrussel1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    I build my own audio cables. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying brand name "audiophile" cables and just as good of quality.
    I'd really like to do this. Gotta tutorial you've used? I have built my own sub before and that turned out pretty well.
    If you can solder, that's all the skill you need. And with most common connectors available in crimp or screw-type forms, you don't even have to solder. I prefer the solder-type, though, as its more permanent.
    I can solder! My dad was an electrician so I learned early. Where do you get your parts?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    tempo_n_groove said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    Bestbuy has a "Hi-fi" shop in some of their locations. I wanted to buy some speaker wires, 10G. They came back with 8' cables for $300 each...

    Someone PLEASE explain to me how one form of copper is 30x more expensive than another...

    I ended up buying 10g cheaper wire...
    10 is really heavy unless you're doing very long runs. Either way that BB shit is a rip off. Monoprice oxygen free is all you need imo.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,447
    mrussel1 said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    Bestbuy has a "Hi-fi" shop in some of their locations. I wanted to buy some speaker wires, 10G. They came back with 8' cables for $300 each...

    Someone PLEASE explain to me how one form of copper is 30x more expensive than another...

    I ended up buying 10g cheaper wire...
    10 is really heavy unless you're doing very long runs. Either way that BB shit is a rip off. Monoprice oxygen free is all you need imo.
    See that's just it, Oxygen free? What does that have to do with my setup unless it's a 50K set up?!?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    tempo_n_groove said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    Bestbuy has a "Hi-fi" shop in some of their locations. I wanted to buy some speaker wires, 10G. They came back with 8' cables for $300 each...

    Someone PLEASE explain to me how one form of copper is 30x more expensive than another...

    I ended up buying 10g cheaper wire...
    10 is really heavy unless you're doing very long runs. Either way that BB shit is a rip off. Monoprice oxygen free is all you need imo.
    See that's just it, Oxygen free? What does that have to do with my setup unless it's a 50K set up?!?
    Well... It really just means that it's clean copper vs some silver material that is made in Chinese wires and I think the lines get polluted. It's marginally more expensive but I have read in lots of places that it makes a difference. 50 feet of 12 gauge is only 20 bucks. https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-102747-50-Feet-Enhanced-Oxygen-Free/dp/B001UNGJF6/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481205971&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=14+gauge+speaker+wire+monoprice

    BTW - did you get that ground loop solved (if it was a ground loop)?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,447
    mrussel1 said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    Bestbuy has a "Hi-fi" shop in some of their locations. I wanted to buy some speaker wires, 10G. They came back with 8' cables for $300 each...

    Someone PLEASE explain to me how one form of copper is 30x more expensive than another...

    I ended up buying 10g cheaper wire...
    10 is really heavy unless you're doing very long runs. Either way that BB shit is a rip off. Monoprice oxygen free is all you need imo.
    See that's just it, Oxygen free? What does that have to do with my setup unless it's a 50K set up?!?
    Well... It really just means that it's clean copper vs some silver material that is made in Chinese wires and I think the lines get polluted. It's marginally more expensive but I have read in lots of places that it makes a difference. 50 feet of 12 gauge is only 20 bucks. https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-102747-50-Feet-Enhanced-Oxygen-Free/dp/B001UNGJF6/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481205971&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=14+gauge+speaker+wire+monoprice

    BTW - did you get that ground loop solved (if it was a ground loop)?
    99.7% copper will ALWAYS be 99.7% copper... This is why I don't get what people believe to be a better product. Snake oil I tell you, snake oil.

    I have not had time to attempt a fix yet on the ground loop. Hopefully this weekend. Thx again for your knowledge!
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    edited December 2016
    anyone here ever used an anti static gun for their turntable? I seem to always get a lot more pops and hiss in the winter time. wondering if this might make a difference?

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    tempo_n_groove said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    mrussel1 said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    Bestbuy has a "Hi-fi" shop in some of their locations. I wanted to buy some speaker wires, 10G. They came back with 8' cables for $300 each...

    Someone PLEASE explain to me how one form of copper is 30x more expensive than another...

    I ended up buying 10g cheaper wire...
    10 is really heavy unless you're doing very long runs. Either way that BB shit is a rip off. Monoprice oxygen free is all you need imo.
    See that's just it, Oxygen free? What does that have to do with my setup unless it's a 50K set up?!?
    Well... It really just means that it's clean copper vs some silver material that is made in Chinese wires and I think the lines get polluted. It's marginally more expensive but I have read in lots of places that it makes a difference. 50 feet of 12 gauge is only 20 bucks. https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-102747-50-Feet-Enhanced-Oxygen-Free/dp/B001UNGJF6/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481205971&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=14+gauge+speaker+wire+monoprice

    BTW - did you get that ground loop solved (if it was a ground loop)?
    99.7% copper will ALWAYS be 99.7% copper... This is why I don't get what people believe to be a better product. Snake oil I tell you, snake oil.

    I have not had time to attempt a fix yet on the ground loop. Hopefully this weekend. Thx again for your knowledge!
    But it isn't copper... that's the point. It's copper clad, basically a wrap around aluminum. If you strip apart that cheaper wire, you'll see it's silver.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    mrussel1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    mrussel1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    I build my own audio cables. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying brand name "audiophile" cables and just as good of quality.
    I'd really like to do this. Gotta tutorial you've used? I have built my own sub before and that turned out pretty well.
    If you can solder, that's all the skill you need. And with most common connectors available in crimp or screw-type forms, you don't even have to solder. I prefer the solder-type, though, as its more permanent.
    I can solder! My dad was an electrician so I learned early. Where do you get your parts?
    Various outlets... Parts Warehouse, Monoprice, Radio Shack, Lowes, Amazon, ebay, . Wherever I can find what I'm looking for inexpensively. When it comes to speakers, I'm a big fan of the banana plug.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    HesCalledDyer said:

    mrussel1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    mrussel1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    bflynn1 said:

    Do you guys use a specific brand of audio cables and/or are there ones to steer clear of?

    I build my own audio cables. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying brand name "audiophile" cables and just as good of quality.
    I'd really like to do this. Gotta tutorial you've used? I have built my own sub before and that turned out pretty well.
    If you can solder, that's all the skill you need. And with most common connectors available in crimp or screw-type forms, you don't even have to solder. I prefer the solder-type, though, as its more permanent.
    I can solder! My dad was an electrician so I learned early. Where do you get your parts?
    Various outlets... Parts Warehouse, Monoprice, Radio Shack, Lowes, Amazon, ebay, . Wherever I can find what I'm looking for inexpensively. When it comes to speakers, I'm a big fan of the banana plug.
    Always banana plugs! Makes life easier and they look classier.
  • bflynn1
    bflynn1 Posts: 1,394
    @mrussel1 do you recommend the monoprice banana plugs? Funnily enough that you guys bring it up, I was doing some research on different banana plugs earlier and they seem to have the best reviews.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    bflynn1 said:

    @mrussel1 do you recommend the monoprice banana plugs? Funnily enough that you guys bring it up, I was doing some research on different banana plugs earlier and they seem to have the best reviews.

    They're great. Awesome. I've bought a ton. But make sure you get heat shrink wrap too. They must be wrapped otherwise if you touch the gold tip + - together while plugged in to your amp, you can blow it. Mono sells that too. I get white and black so I can keep the polarity straight. It takes some time to do if you have a lot of speakers, but I think it must be done.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    mrussel1 said:

    bflynn1 said:

    @mrussel1 do you recommend the monoprice banana plugs? Funnily enough that you guys bring it up, I was doing some research on different banana plugs earlier and they seem to have the best reviews.

    They're great. Awesome. I've bought a ton. But make sure you get heat shrink wrap too. They must be wrapped otherwise if you touch the gold tip + - together while plugged in to your amp, you can blow it. Mono sells that too. I get white and black so I can keep the polarity straight. It takes some time to do if you have a lot of speakers, but I think it must be done.
    So I did a little more reading and it looks like my dad was being overly cautious all those years when he A. soldered all wires and B. did the heat shrink thing. Lots of people don't think it's necessary and the signal is so low if touching that it may shut down an amp, but not burn it. If you decide not to shrink (it's a lot more work), at least do a stagger cut so the chance of the gold/copper touching is minimal.

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