Should there be recounts in MI, PA and WI?
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write in validity is a state by state thing whether they are recorded or not.JimmyV said:
I've heard that but I've also heard anyone who wrote someone in was officially recorded as leaving the top line blank. So anyone who wrote in Bernie, Obama, Pence, etc. would be included in that 70k number. I agree it sounds fishy but it's possibly innocent. Definitely worth recounting to be sure.JC29856 said:
I'm thinking they will find some really really irregular irregularities. 70k+ people voted down ballot only? Seems fishyJimmyV said:Michigan recounts ordered to begin:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/05/politics/michigan-election-recount/index.html
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Agreed.mickeyrat said:
write in validity is a state by state thing whether they are recorded or not.JimmyV said:
I've heard that but I've also heard anyone who wrote someone in was officially recorded as leaving the top line blank. So anyone who wrote in Bernie, Obama, Pence, etc. would be included in that 70k number. I agree it sounds fishy but it's possibly innocent. Definitely worth recounting to be sure.JC29856 said:
I'm thinking they will find some really really irregular irregularities. 70k+ people voted down ballot only? Seems fishyJimmyV said:Michigan recounts ordered to begin:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/05/politics/michigan-election-recount/index.html
it pays to an informed voter. Ohio has recordable write ins.___________________________________________
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Waste of money. If she had a shot, she would not have conceded.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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Meanwhile in North Carolina:
The Republican incumbent concedes a race in which his Democratic opponent received almost 100,000 more votes than Hillary Clinton did at the top of the ticket.___________________________________________
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Numbers again, I thought the Democratic opponent received almost 100,001 votes.
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Half of Detroit votes may be ineligible for recount.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/recount-unrecountable/95007392/0 -
He blamed the discrepancies on the city’s decade-old voting machines, saying 87 optical scanners broke on Election Day. Many jammed when voters fed ballots into scanners, which can result in erroneous vote counts if ballots are inserted multiple times.EM194007 said:Half of Detroit votes may be ineligible for recount.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/recount-unrecountable/95007392/
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What mystifies me is that people are shocked when so many people find Hillary Clinton a disgusting excuse for human being. She is very much hated.JimmyV said:Meanwhile in North Carolina:
The Republican incumbent concedes a race in which his Democratic opponent received almost 100,000 more votes than Hillary Clinton did at the top of the ticket.0 -
Yeshillary really is a bad person according to the internet
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I do think that hatred is bred by FOX and fake news. Limbaugh and Alex Jones, etc. We don't have to take everything to that level. I think Hillary Clinton is a terrible politician and was a terrible candidate who ran a worse campaign. For all the things Trump said and did that would have destroyed a typical campaign, so too would have being the subject of an active FBI investigation or calling a large voting block deplorable. I was shocked by the claims that she was the most qualified candidate we had ever seen and by the almost religious devotion to her. But calling her "a disgusting excuse for a human being" because you disagree with her politically? That's a bridge I won't cross. Where is the evidence that she is a disgusting human being? She has been so scripted for 25 years how do we even know what kind of human being she is? It just doesn't have to go there when we disagree.unsung said:
What mystifies me is that people are shocked when so many people find Hillary Clinton a disgusting excuse for human being. She is very much hated.JimmyV said:Meanwhile in North Carolina:
The Republican incumbent concedes a race in which his Democratic opponent received almost 100,000 more votes than Hillary Clinton did at the top of the ticket.___________________________________________
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What a disaster in Detroit. We can't argue that government should run more efficiently everyday except election day.___________________________________________
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she was a flawed candidate. next to Obama, most everyone is. bottom line is that has the background qualifications for the job. Now, whether that background meant she would have been a great President, we'll probably never know.JimmyV said:
I do think that hatred is bred by FOX and fake news. Limbaugh and Alex Jones, etc. We don't have to take everything to that level. I think Hillary Clinton is a terrible politician and was a terrible candidate who ran a worse campaign. For all the things Trump said and did that would have destroyed a typical campaign, so too would have being the subject of an active FBI investigation or calling a large voting block deplorable. I was shocked by the claims that she was the most qualified candidate we had ever seen and by the almost religious devotion to her. But calling her "a disgusting excuse for a human being" because you disagree with her politically? That's a bridge I won't cross. Where is the evidence that she is a disgusting human being? She has been so scripted for 25 years how do we even know what kind of human being she is? It just doesn't have to go there when we disagree.unsung said:
What mystifies me is that people are shocked when so many people find Hillary Clinton a disgusting excuse for human being. She is very much hated.JimmyV said:Meanwhile in North Carolina:
The Republican incumbent concedes a race in which his Democratic opponent received almost 100,000 more votes than Hillary Clinton did at the top of the ticket.
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JimmyV said:
I do think that hatred is bred by FOX and fake news. Limbaugh and Alex Jones, etc. We don't have to take everything to that level. I think Hillary Clinton is a terrible politician and was a terrible candidate who ran a worse campaign. For all the things Trump said and did that would have destroyed a typical campaign, so too would have being the subject of an active FBI investigation or calling a large voting block deplorable. I was shocked by the claims that she was the most qualified candidate we had ever seen and by the almost religious devotion to her. But calling her "a disgusting excuse for a human being" because you disagree with her politically? That's a bridge I won't cross. Where is the evidence that she is a disgusting human being? She has been so scripted for 25 years how do we even know what kind of human being she is? It just doesn't have to go there when we disagree.unsung said:
What mystifies me is that people are shocked when so many people find Hillary Clinton a disgusting excuse for human being. She is very much hated.JimmyV said:Meanwhile in North Carolina:
The Republican incumbent concedes a race in which his Democratic opponent received almost 100,000 more votes than Hillary Clinton did at the top of the ticket.0 -
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Collusion between a journalist and any politician should not be seen in any way, shape or form as patriotic or even positive. You're delusional if you think that this was done out of some sort of good samaritan prevention of the apocalypse, rather than ratings or back-room transactions.vaggar99 said:^^^list of patriots
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Wise words as always. You would do well to listen to him, vaggar99. Benjs is smarter and more eloquent than many of us here, myself certainly included.benjs said:
Collusion between a journalist and any politician should not be seen in any way, shape or form as patriotic or even positive. You're delusional if you think that this was done out of some sort of good samaritan prevention of the apocalypse, rather than ratings or back-room transactions.vaggar99 said:^^^list of patriots
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Didn't many of our founding fathers own and operate printing presses and newspaper distribution? I thought early colonial newspapers were commonly seen as mouth pieces for political parties. I think we should revert to that.benjs said:
Collusion between a journalist and any politician should not be seen in any way, shape or form as patriotic or even positive. You're delusional if you think that this was done out of some sort of good samaritan prevention of the apocalypse, rather than ratings or back-room transactions.vaggar99 said:^^^list of patriots
Today the news is trying to be seen as unbiased, and when they (inevitably) spin the facts, credibility is lost. Newspapers should have the ability to present the facts, and espouse an agenda as they see fit. Then at least we would have some transparency, instead of news networks going: "You're biased!" "Nu-uh! You're biased!".
I'm not suggesting a state owned media. But I don't see an issue with media working with politicians to get their message out, even better if the media agrees with their message and wants to promote it.0 -
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it was a joke in response to what i saw as a very biased graphic. of course i don't believe that collusion amongst journalists is a good thing. But can you blame these guys for being confused/amused/bemused by this guy? This is a man who lies all day long and no one is allowed to call him out on it without a jury trial first? C'mon manJimmyV said:
Wise words as always. You would do well to listen to him, vaggar99. Benjs is smarter and more eloquent than many of us here, myself certainly included.benjs said:
Collusion between a journalist and any politician should not be seen in any way, shape or form as patriotic or even positive. You're delusional if you think that this was done out of some sort of good samaritan prevention of the apocalypse, rather than ratings or back-room transactions.vaggar99 said:^^^list of patriots
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