kenny wayne shepherd - While We Cry

outontheporch
outontheporch Posts: 172
edited August 2008 in The Porch
Yeah sorry if this has been talked about before. I've never seen a thread about it...but, this shepherd has an album out called Ledbetter Hights, that has a song on it called While We Cry, same exact chords as YLB...even the opening riff is pretty much the same.

Now I know you guys probably already know this, and I realize the chords aren't exactly groundbreakingly original...but I was just curious why I haven't heard this before. Cheers!
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  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    That is pretty blatant if you ask me. Sounds more like the live version as opposed to the studio version.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If955Enc3k0


    And he also has a song called Alive hmmmm.
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  • E.K
    E.K New South Wales, Australia Posts: 7,726
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Ledbetter
    Recorded in 1991

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ledbetter_Heights
    Recorded in 1995

    Hmmm.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,460
    mike didn't invent those chords and wasn't the first to put them together. check out 'little wing' by hendrix. they're just copying one another on down the line. sincerest form of flattery.....
    yes, 'while we cry' sounds a hell lot like 'ledbetter' and 'little wing.' just my two cents.
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  • brainofjb
    brainofjb Boston Posts: 381
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    mike didn't invent those chords and wasn't the first to put them together. check out 'little wing' by hendrix. they're just copying one another on down the line. sincerest form of flattery.....
    yes, 'while we cry' sounds a hell lot like 'ledbetter' and 'little wing.' just my two cents.


    true but using such a similar name is taken it a little to far
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  • DeetroitBaasketball
    DeetroitBaasketball Posts: 379
    There is another thread on this. They both are paying tributes (musically) to Hendrix. Lyrics are a different story as Shepherd's album is about Leadbelly's stomping grounds - Yellow Ledbetter, apparently, is for Tim Ledbetter, Ed's friend. Odd.

    Edit: Here you go from the wiki site -

    "Shepherd named his debut album after this neighborhood as an homage to the blues tradition of his home town." Key words here are "blues tradition" as both songs (& Shepherd's entire album) come from the same tradition ("Little Wing" & "May This Be Love").
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    This song came up on my girlfirend's Pandora Friday night, and the first thing I thought of was Yellow Ledbetter. Pretty cool song.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,460
    LukinFan said:

    This song came up on my girlfirend's Pandora Friday night, and the first thing I thought of was Yellow Ledbetter. Pretty cool song.

    I've seen him 3x - including early on when he was 15. Dude can flat out play.
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  • Wobbie
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    2-feign-reluctance said:

    LukinFan said:

    This song came up on my girlfirend's Pandora Friday night, and the first thing I thought of was Yellow Ledbetter. Pretty cool song.

    I've seen him 3x - including early on when he was 15. Dude can flat out play.
    seen him 5x, I think. don't be hating on KWS :nuh_uh:

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    edited December 2016
    Wobbie said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    LukinFan said:

    This song came up on my girlfirend's Pandora Friday night, and the first thing I thought of was Yellow Ledbetter. Pretty cool song.

    I've seen him 3x - including early on when he was 15. Dude can flat out play.
    seen him 5x, I think. don't be hating on KWS :nuh_uh:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ffndDj2Ipw
    Wob, KWS sucks, man. soul-less masturbation on guitar. :lol:

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,460
    Wobbie said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    LukinFan said:

    This song came up on my girlfirend's Pandora Friday night, and the first thing I thought of was Yellow Ledbetter. Pretty cool song.

    I've seen him 3x - including early on when he was 15. Dude can flat out play.
    seen him 5x, I think. don't be hating on KWS :nuh_uh:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ffndDj2Ipw
    No hate here. Had a beer with him at the bar after a show at The Blue Note here in Columbia. Back in 2000 or early 2001 if memory serves. Nice dude to talk guitar and music with. I've got photos (physical) somewhere of that night.
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  • pljam
    pljam Posts: 387
    I am a KWS fan but, seriously that is total theft
  • E.K
    E.K New South Wales, Australia Posts: 7,726
    pljam said:

    I am a KWS fan but, seriously that is total theft

    Yep

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  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    edited January 2017
    I feel like there is another SRV song not Little Wing that is almost identical as well. Can't recall the name, it is on GH 2 I think. I used to teach a bunch of kids named Ledbetter, always blasted the song for them
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Blatant theft... that's not similar, or paying homage, that's just stealing lol
  • adusick
    adusick Posts: 1,389
    my2hands said:

    Blatant theft... that's not similar, or paying homage, that's just stealing lol

    Gotta agree with you. Just listened to the entire song, it's a bit TOO similar. Yes McCready didn't invent those chords, but listen to the arrangement. 40 secs in, and again at 3:33.. that solo. He could have gone so many directions with it, but yet it's basically the same as Mike's. The guitar tone. Listen to how the song ends. And what are the odds that the word "Ledbetter" just HAPPENS to be on the album?? C'mon man!
  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    Yellow.led is clearly a combo of.Hendrix "Little" wing and SRV "Lenny". So if KWS is ripping PJ off, PJ ripped them off
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,619
    He barely changed it. Ridiculous
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