HBO's WESTWORLD(Spoilers)

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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Man, this show just loves throwing new questions at the viewer. So much going on with so many unknowns and possibilities.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Episode 6:
    Radioheads Fake Plastic Trees played on the Saloon piano.
    How cool is Maeve's storyline? She got a super upgrade.
    Lots of stuff going on, especially the corporate information sabotage that "Arnold" and Theresa seem to be part of. Controlling the older modeled hosts through satellite voice communications.
    And Ford hiding his family "ghosts" in Sector 17.
    Lots of speculation/theories going on for this show...fun to see how it all unfolds.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
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  • bflynn1
    bflynn1 Posts: 1,394
    I'm really enjoying this show.
  • Yarden
    Yarden Posts: 820
    bflynn1 said:

    I'm really enjoying this show.

    +1
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,791
    Yarden said:

    bflynn1 said:

    I'm really enjoying this show.

    +1
    +2 :) Soooo many questions!
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    This is what I think - Bernard is definitely a robot, the Jimmi/Ed Harris in a black hat are separate timeliness, and thereshe definitely Teo major themes at play: Arnold, whether he's dead or not, is about showing sentience can happen beyond any humans/robots/etc (2) Anthony Hopkins wants to control everything.
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Damn, so yes, Bernard is a host. The question now is, is Bernard really Arnold?
    This show keeps getting better and better. Best episode of the season right here.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Dr. Delight said:

    Damn, so yes, Bernard is a host. The question now is, is Bernard really Arnold?
    This show keeps getting better and better. Best episode of the season right here.

    I'm guessing he is based on the real Arnold, Ford created him since he missed his old friend.

    The crazy thing is the company looks like they really underestimated him. There could be a lot of people he "replaced" and no none knows.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    And was Ford creating a "host" version of Theresa on the table in the room where Bernard murdered her? He'll need to account for her disappearance.
    So damn good.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    edited November 2016
    Dr. Delight said:

    And was Ford creating a "host" version of Theresa on the table in the room where Bernard murdered her? He'll need to account for her disappearance.
    So damn good.

    That is what I thought. I thought the preview showed them all looking at a body though. But it may have been the woman who discovered Theresa was trying to steal secrets and disappeared last week.

    And I want to know how much the Man in Black knows, since him and Ford obviously have a past. And are the other robots "waking up" outside of Ford's plans?

    So many directions it can go. Glad it is already renewed.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    edited November 2016
    pjsteelerfan said:

    Dr. Delight said:

    And was Ford creating a "host" version of Theresa on the table in the room where Bernard murdered her? He'll need to account for her disappearance.
    So damn good.

    That is what I thought. I thought the preview showed them all looking at a body though. But it may have been the woman who discovered Theresa was trying to steal secrets and disappeared last week.

    And I want to know how much the Man in Black knows, since him and Ford obviously have a past. And are the other robots "waking up" outside of Ford's plans?

    So many directions it can go. Glad it is already renewed.
    I just wish it didn't take this long to expose Bernard as a host. I feel like this show is more about what is to come than what I'm actually watching, and that gets tiring after a while. With that said, glad I finally got that payoff - that whole scene was very, very good.

    Definitely think Theresa was the host being made; just like I'm sure Bernard used to be an actual real person (maybe the flashbacks of conversations with Delores are from that time?).

    So, as I see it, there's 4 storylines going on here: 1)The whole sabotage/corporate thing with Theresa(now dead) 2) Maeve becoming a super host genius person 3) Ed Harris when he was younger with Delores 4) Ed Harris older as the man in the black hat on the chase of the maze.

    I'm thinking Elsie's dead? And I'm not sure if Arnold was ever real, or if he was a someone made up by Ford to deflect us from what's really going on with Ford. OR Arnold is not dead and Ford is allowing him to live his life among the hosts probably somewhere in the middle of that maze ala Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    I didnt watch next weeks previews.
    Well one of the ongoing theories about different timelines has the William/Dolores story being in the past, and the MIB being William in the present. But i'm not quite sure if thats gonna prove to be just a theory.
    Maeve is definitely awake and ready to jump ship from the facility.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    I think I need to re-watch the last couple of episodes. I feel like I missed a lot of clues.
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  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,791
    Bernard Lowe = Arnold Weber... so if the surname Weber pops up we'll know that Bernard is based on Arnold. Or maybe, Bernard is Arnold, and Arnold was always a host that got reprogrammed...

    I loved this episode, Theresa's death came out of nowhere though. Her reaction as Bernard closed in was heartbreaking. I definitely think the host on the table is a replacement Theresa
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    goldrush said:

    Bernard Lowe = Arnold Weber... so if the surname Weber pops up we'll know that Bernard is based on Arnold. Or maybe, Bernard is Arnold, and Arnold was always a host that got reprogrammed...

    I loved this episode, Theresa's death came out of nowhere though. Her reaction as Bernard closed in was heartbreaking. I definitely think the host on the table is a replacement Theresa

    Yeah, I've seen that Bernard Lowe thing. I think that's what it is - just as (I'm assuming) Theresa will be replaced with a host I think Arnold was replaced with a host. When Ford showed Bernard the picture of Ford and Arnold it was actually Ford and Ford's dad with enough room in the middle for another person. I figure the guy in the middle is Bernard(Arnold) when he was not a host. And the conversation with Bernard and Delores are actually of Delores and Arnold before Arnold was killed.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    This is pretty perfect - https://theringer.com/lets-stop-pretending-we-know-what-s-going-on-in-westworld-e1afd7f584bc#.hbo55jl6x
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Man, this show is nuts.
    There are definitely different timelines happening here with Dolores, Maeve and Teddy/ Man in Black
    So Bernard also took out Elsie as well.
    Maeve is now further upgraded and can control other hosts within the park at her leisure. Will be interesting to see who she tries to recruit into her army.
    Two more episodes left.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,791
    I hope I'm wrong but I can't see things ending well for Maeve. I think she may get to a certain point and then get sacrificed GoT-style, which is a shame as I've always liked Thandie Newton.

    Is William a younger Man in Black?

    Is Ford really a host too? Could he have found the maze and reached total awareness, then taken over from Arnold?
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
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  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
    Ford and Arnold are one of the same. Ford is an Android with Arnold's consciousness. Boom!!!!!!!
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    joseph33 said:

    Ford and Arnold are one of the same. Ford is an Android with Arnold's consciousness. Boom!!!!!!!

    (Insert Keanu Reeves whoa face)
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