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  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    None of this makes any sense whatsoever. The man repeatedly explained out loud that he was the caretaker of the subject, who happened to be autistic, and was only holding a toy car or train. He informed the officers repeatedly that neither he or the other person had any weapons on them, and to please not shoot. So after all of this, one officer now claims that he felt that Mr. Kinsey's life was in danger and tried to neutralize the threat? Not to mention that when Mr. Kinsey asked why he was shot, the officer's reply was simply "I don't know". If the officer is truly this terrible of a shot to begin with, and his intentions were not to shoot Mr. Kinsey, Why would you handcuff him after all of this? He was the one you were protecting right? None of this makes any sense again, the officer should be fucking charged, and held accountable for his negligence and flat out fucking stupidity. This entire incident is completely inexcusable.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,067
    Ray J. T. said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    None of this makes any sense whatsoever. The man repeatedly explained out loud that he was the caretaker of the subject, who happened to be autistic, and was only holding a toy car or train. He informed the officers repeatedly that neither he or the other person had any weapons on them, and to please not shoot. So after all of this, one officer now claims that he felt that Mr. Kinsey's life was in danger and tried to neutralize the threat? Not to mention that when Mr. Kinsey asked why he was shot, the officer's reply was simply "I don't know". If the officer is truly this terrible of a shot to begin with, and his intentions were not to shoot Mr. Kinsey, Why would you handcuff him after all of this? He was the one you were protecting right? None of this makes any sense again, the officer should be fucking charged, and held accountable for his negligence and flat out fucking stupidity. This entire incident is completely inexcusable.
    Indeed
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    So why did they handcuff him? Little bit of a hole in the story...
    No clue, sounds like these particular individuals aren't very good at their job. Maybe that city should address crisis response as well as firearm proficiency training. The shooting was probably something as stupid as accidental discharge and they panicked? No excuses though, if I were to accidentally discharge a firearm and injure an innocent person, I would fully expect to be investigated and charged. Will they be?
    If this is the excuse we are going to use for this officer, than this shithead is clearly not fit to be an officer. Some people really need to think about the line of work they are getting themselves into. Its not for everybody. At the end of the day there is no room for panic in the sense that it is going to keep you from conducting your job correctly, safely, and professionally. This a profession that requires an immense amount of attention to detail as lives hang in the balance of your decision making and judgment skills. A fireman arriving to a scene of a fire can not panic and begin to concern himself with amount of danger he has just arrived to. Lives are now being depended on fire personnel on scene to conduct themselves professionally and safely so that everyone gets to go home injury free, after it is all said and done. Its what you signed up for. This officer in particular does not display the characteristics of what it takes to be on the job.
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    PJPOWER said it best. This all comes back to a major display in lack of training and evaluation on the police departments.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Ray J. T. said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    So why did they handcuff him? Little bit of a hole in the story...
    No clue, sounds like these particular individuals aren't very good at their job. Maybe that city should address crisis response as well as firearm proficiency training. The shooting was probably something as stupid as accidental discharge and they panicked? No excuses though, if I were to accidentally discharge a firearm and injure an innocent person, I would fully expect to be investigated and charged. Will they be?
    If this is the excuse we are going to use for this officer, than this shithead is clearly not fit to be an officer. Some people really need to think about the line of work they are getting themselves into. Its not for everybody. At the end of the day there is no room for panic in the sense that it is going to keep you from conducting your job correctly, safely, and professionally. This a profession that requires an immense amount of attention to detail as lives hang in the balance of your decision making and judgment skills. A fireman arriving to a scene of a fire can not panic and begin to concern himself with amount of danger he has just arrived to. Lives are now being depended on fire personnel on scene to conduct themselves professionally and safely so that everyone gets to go home injury free, after it is all said and done. Its what you signed up for. This officer in particular does not display the characteristics of what it takes to be on the job.
    We need to double the pay, double the hiring standards, double the training they receive, and independent review boards to hold them accountable.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    rgambs said:

    Ray J. T. said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    So why did they handcuff him? Little bit of a hole in the story...
    No clue, sounds like these particular individuals aren't very good at their job. Maybe that city should address crisis response as well as firearm proficiency training. The shooting was probably something as stupid as accidental discharge and they panicked? No excuses though, if I were to accidentally discharge a firearm and injure an innocent person, I would fully expect to be investigated and charged. Will they be?
    If this is the excuse we are going to use for this officer, than this shithead is clearly not fit to be an officer. Some people really need to think about the line of work they are getting themselves into. Its not for everybody. At the end of the day there is no room for panic in the sense that it is going to keep you from conducting your job correctly, safely, and professionally. This a profession that requires an immense amount of attention to detail as lives hang in the balance of your decision making and judgment skills. A fireman arriving to a scene of a fire can not panic and begin to concern himself with amount of danger he has just arrived to. Lives are now being depended on fire personnel on scene to conduct themselves professionally and safely so that everyone gets to go home injury free, after it is all said and done. Its what you signed up for. This officer in particular does not display the characteristics of what it takes to be on the job.
    We need to double the pay, double the hiring standards, double the training they receive, and independent review boards to hold them accountable.
    I am not entirely sure what the solution is, but the departments must absolutely start doing a much better job in evaluating their personnel. one little psych test (that everyone knows how to pass btw) is just not enough. They most certainly need to do better with on the job training evaluation, and weeding out the people that are just not fit to do this job.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    rgambs said:

    Ray J. T. said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    So why did they handcuff him? Little bit of a hole in the story...
    No clue, sounds like these particular individuals aren't very good at their job. Maybe that city should address crisis response as well as firearm proficiency training. The shooting was probably something as stupid as accidental discharge and they panicked? No excuses though, if I were to accidentally discharge a firearm and injure an innocent person, I would fully expect to be investigated and charged. Will they be?
    If this is the excuse we are going to use for this officer, than this shithead is clearly not fit to be an officer. Some people really need to think about the line of work they are getting themselves into. Its not for everybody. At the end of the day there is no room for panic in the sense that it is going to keep you from conducting your job correctly, safely, and professionally. This a profession that requires an immense amount of attention to detail as lives hang in the balance of your decision making and judgment skills. A fireman arriving to a scene of a fire can not panic and begin to concern himself with amount of danger he has just arrived to. Lives are now being depended on fire personnel on scene to conduct themselves professionally and safely so that everyone gets to go home injury free, after it is all said and done. Its what you signed up for. This officer in particular does not display the characteristics of what it takes to be on the job.
    We need to double the pay, double the hiring standards, double the training they receive, and independent review boards to hold them accountable.
    Why would a cop hater want to give them more money?
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    edited July 2016
    We need to see a lot more of this. These officers deserve a fucking medal and a raise! They handled themselves professionally and accordingly. After the situation and threat was neutralized, everybody was able to tell their side of the story alive. No lives were lost unnecessarily.

    https://youtu.be/gsCWK4XYHV8
    Post edited by Ray J. T. on
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    dignin said:

    rgambs said:

    Ray J. T. said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    So why did they handcuff him? Little bit of a hole in the story...
    No clue, sounds like these particular individuals aren't very good at their job. Maybe that city should address crisis response as well as firearm proficiency training. The shooting was probably something as stupid as accidental discharge and they panicked? No excuses though, if I were to accidentally discharge a firearm and injure an innocent person, I would fully expect to be investigated and charged. Will they be?
    If this is the excuse we are going to use for this officer, than this shithead is clearly not fit to be an officer. Some people really need to think about the line of work they are getting themselves into. Its not for everybody. At the end of the day there is no room for panic in the sense that it is going to keep you from conducting your job correctly, safely, and professionally. This a profession that requires an immense amount of attention to detail as lives hang in the balance of your decision making and judgment skills. A fireman arriving to a scene of a fire can not panic and begin to concern himself with amount of danger he has just arrived to. Lives are now being depended on fire personnel on scene to conduct themselves professionally and safely so that everyone gets to go home injury free, after it is all said and done. Its what you signed up for. This officer in particular does not display the characteristics of what it takes to be on the job.
    We need to double the pay, double the hiring standards, double the training they receive, and independent review boards to hold them accountable.
    Why would a cop hater want to give them more money?
    Hahaha, it's almost as if you can be critical and caring at the same time...

    Nawww I must just be off my meds lol
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,067
    Ray J. T. said:

    We need to see a lot more of this. These officers deserve a fucking medal and a raise! They handled themselves professionally and accordingly. After the situation and threat was neutralized, everybody was able to tell their side of the story alive. No lives were lost unnecessarily.

    https://youtu.be/gsCWK4XYHV8

    Holy hell.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    edited July 2016
    Ray J. T. said:

    We need to see a lot more of this. These officers deserve a fucking medal and a raise! They handled themselves professionally and accordingly. After the situation and threat was neutralized, everybody was able to tell their side of the story alive. No lives were lost unnecessarily.

    https://youtu.be/gsCWK4XYHV8

    Actually the opposite. Whoever put him in the back should be fired or seriously reprimanded for not properly searching him first. Put his partner's life in danger too.
    But it does show you how careful they need to be and how fast things can go wrong.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Ray J. T. said:

    We need to see a lot more of this. These officers deserve a fucking medal and a raise! They handled themselves professionally and accordingly. After the situation and threat was neutralized, everybody was able to tell their side of the story alive. No lives were lost unnecessarily.

    https://youtu.be/gsCWK4XYHV8

    Holy hell.
    Ray J. T. said:

    We need to see a lot more of this. These officers deserve a fucking medal and a raise! They handled themselves professionally and accordingly. After the situation and threat was neutralized, everybody was able to tell their side of the story alive. No lives were lost unnecessarily.

    https://youtu.be/gsCWK4XYHV8

    That's nuts, the dude was fucked up and they handled that very well... Aside from the fact that they put him in the back of the car without taking his gun first lol
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Ray J. T. said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    So why did they handcuff him? Little bit of a hole in the story...
    No clue, sounds like these particular individuals aren't very good at their job. Maybe that city should address crisis response as well as firearm proficiency training. The shooting was probably something as stupid as accidental discharge and they panicked? No excuses though, if I were to accidentally discharge a firearm and injure an innocent person, I would fully expect to be investigated and charged. Will they be?
    If this is the excuse we are going to use for this officer, than this shithead is clearly not fit to be an officer. Some people really need to think about the line of work they are getting themselves into. Its not for everybody. At the end of the day there is no room for panic in the sense that it is going to keep you from conducting your job correctly, safely, and professionally. This a profession that requires an immense amount of attention to detail as lives hang in the balance of your decision making and judgment skills. A fireman arriving to a scene of a fire can not panic and begin to concern himself with amount of danger he has just arrived to. Lives are now being depended on fire personnel on scene to conduct themselves professionally and safely so that everyone gets to go home injury free, after it is all said and done. Its what you signed up for. This officer in particular does not display the characteristics of what it takes to be on the job.
    You are not going to get any argument from me. Many organizations have lowered their physical, mental, and intellectual standards. The best place to see that is with what's happening within the military. For what reasons, political correctness, funding, education?
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Ray J. T. said:

    We need to see a lot more of this. These officers deserve a fucking medal and a raise! They handled themselves professionally and accordingly. After the situation and threat was neutralized, everybody was able to tell their side of the story alive. No lives were lost unnecessarily.

    https://youtu.be/gsCWK4XYHV8

    Holy hell.
    mace1229 said:

    Ray J. T. said:

    We need to see a lot more of this. These officers deserve a fucking medal and a raise! They handled themselves professionally and accordingly. After the situation and threat was neutralized, everybody was able to tell their side of the story alive. No lives were lost unnecessarily.

    https://youtu.be/gsCWK4XYHV8

    Actually the opposite. Whoever put him in the back should be fired or seriously reprimanded for not properly searching him first. Put his partner's life in danger too.
    Actually I had been thinking the same thing. why wasn't he searched? why wasn't he handcuffed? but yet again we don't know the entire story. He might of not necessarily been detained, or arrested. I have a hard time believing that if he truly was detained or arrested, he would have been searched and cuffed from the beginning. He might of just been a CI. Who knows. All I am trying to say is that everybody was able to tell their side of the story, and no one died.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:

    Ray J. T. said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    So why did they handcuff him? Little bit of a hole in the story...
    No clue, sounds like these particular individuals aren't very good at their job. Maybe that city should address crisis response as well as firearm proficiency training. The shooting was probably something as stupid as accidental discharge and they panicked? No excuses though, if I were to accidentally discharge a firearm and injure an innocent person, I would fully expect to be investigated and charged. Will they be?
    If this is the excuse we are going to use for this officer, than this shithead is clearly not fit to be an officer. Some people really need to think about the line of work they are getting themselves into. Its not for everybody. At the end of the day there is no room for panic in the sense that it is going to keep you from conducting your job correctly, safely, and professionally. This a profession that requires an immense amount of attention to detail as lives hang in the balance of your decision making and judgment skills. A fireman arriving to a scene of a fire can not panic and begin to concern himself with amount of danger he has just arrived to. Lives are now being depended on fire personnel on scene to conduct themselves professionally and safely so that everyone gets to go home injury free, after it is all said and done. Its what you signed up for. This officer in particular does not display the characteristics of what it takes to be on the job.
    You are not going to get any argument from me. Many organizations have lowered their physical, mental, and intellectual standards. The best place to see that is with what's happening within the military. For what reasons, political correctness, funding, education?
    You are looking for political reasons that for your worldview when the answer is far more simple.
    People are less inclined to be soldiers and police officers nowadays for lots of reasons.
    Applicant numbers are way down and so the have to lower standards to fill the ranks.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    edited July 2016
    PJPOWER said:

    Ray J. T. said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    So why did they handcuff him? Little bit of a hole in the story...
    No clue, sounds like these particular individuals aren't very good at their job. Maybe that city should address crisis response as well as firearm proficiency training. The shooting was probably something as stupid as accidental discharge and they panicked? No excuses though, if I were to accidentally discharge a firearm and injure an innocent person, I would fully expect to be investigated and charged. Will they be?
    If this is the excuse we are going to use for this officer, than this shithead is clearly not fit to be an officer. Some people really need to think about the line of work they are getting themselves into. Its not for everybody. At the end of the day there is no room for panic in the sense that it is going to keep you from conducting your job correctly, safely, and professionally. This a profession that requires an immense amount of attention to detail as lives hang in the balance of your decision making and judgment skills. A fireman arriving to a scene of a fire can not panic and begin to concern himself with amount of danger he has just arrived to. Lives are now being depended on fire personnel on scene to conduct themselves professionally and safely so that everyone gets to go home injury free, after it is all said and done. Its what you signed up for. This officer in particular does not display the characteristics of what it takes to be on the job.
    You are not going to get any argument from me. Many organizations have lowered their physical, mental, and intellectual standards. The best place to see that is with what's happening within the military. For what reasons, political correctness, funding, education?
    Why the hell is it that the minimum requirements to do this job is a level of high school education? Any shithead with a GED can apply for this field? There is much more that should go into getting into this line of work. How is it that any kid out of high school is mature enough to handle the real world like that? Most kids out of high school don't know their head from their ass.
    Post edited by Ray J. T. on
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    rgambs said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Ray J. T. said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    PJPOWER said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Back to the North Miami shooting...

    I believe it, there are a ton of officers out there that only hit the gun range when they have to renew certification. I'm blown away at how bad some of them shoot. It's not all entirety their fault, though. During ammo shortages, some agencies around here have relied on local reloaders to supply them with practice ammo. Some just aren't interested in firearm proficiency...which is a dumb thing in that line of work.
    So why did they handcuff him? Little bit of a hole in the story...
    No clue, sounds like these particular individuals aren't very good at their job. Maybe that city should address crisis response as well as firearm proficiency training. The shooting was probably something as stupid as accidental discharge and they panicked? No excuses though, if I were to accidentally discharge a firearm and injure an innocent person, I would fully expect to be investigated and charged. Will they be?
    If this is the excuse we are going to use for this officer, than this shithead is clearly not fit to be an officer. Some people really need to think about the line of work they are getting themselves into. Its not for everybody. At the end of the day there is no room for panic in the sense that it is going to keep you from conducting your job correctly, safely, and professionally. This a profession that requires an immense amount of attention to detail as lives hang in the balance of your decision making and judgment skills. A fireman arriving to a scene of a fire can not panic and begin to concern himself with amount of danger he has just arrived to. Lives are now being depended on fire personnel on scene to conduct themselves professionally and safely so that everyone gets to go home injury free, after it is all said and done. Its what you signed up for. This officer in particular does not display the characteristics of what it takes to be on the job.
    You are not going to get any argument from me. Many organizations have lowered their physical, mental, and intellectual standards. The best place to see that is with what's happening within the military. For what reasons, political correctness, funding, education?
    You are looking for political reasons that for your worldview when the answer is far more simple.
    People are less inclined to be soldiers and police officers nowadays for lots of reasons.
    Applicant numbers are way down and so the have to lower standards to fill the ranks.
    Or increase the incintives. I like that approach better than lowering standards. The more incentives you have, the more competition there will be among applicants. The military is a whole different beast. I believe most of the lowered standards can be traced to political issues on that front. I still think that the majority of officers that get into that line of work are more than qualified for the job, but minimum requirements being lowered is where you will see the results of poor decision making skills.
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    i had about four paragraphs about Baton Rouge but i deleted it. Its hard to explain something when its so close to you. I've been to that convenience store where that piece of shit killed those cops about 20 times already in 2016. Such a good community.

    Funny how the media isnt showing the hundreds of blacks who came to BRPD this week to drop off flowers and food to police officers. Doesnt fit the narrative of us vs them i guess. This community will recover. Lost three fantastic heroes last week.
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Visited the scene of the crime today. Terribly sad. People on their knees crying where those cops were killed.
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/16/us/officer-charged-philando-castile-killing/index.html?adkey=bn

    Second Degree Manslaughter

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