Hillary won more votes for President
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You're right. They should be going with the "we've got this in the bag" strategy. That's a winning formula for getting people up to voting.
The last phase of a winning campaign is always lowering expectations to your supporters. When folks take things for granted and get complacent...you lose.0 -
It's Donald Trump, remember?ledvedderman said:You're right. They should be going with the "we've got this in the bag" strategy. That's a winning formula for getting people up to voting.
The last phase of a winning campaign is always lowering expectations to your supporters. When folks take things for granted and get complacent...you lose.0 -
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You aren't a millennial are you? Quit taking yourself so seriously. Bernie said to put your support for him towards Hillary... If you can't do that then shut up and vote for Trump. Who gives a shit.tonifig8 said:Bill Maher and his guest were begging millennials to turn out for Clinton. Maher even talked down to us millennials, which I found a bit insulting. Seems like liberals are concerned. They even brought out the big guns for this one, Obama.....
Congrats, Maher on finally getting Obama to appear on your show. That million dollar donation finally paid off.
Oh, and when that petition came out last year I signed it and had a lot of friends/family sign it as well. Unfortunately Obama rejected the invitation. I'm guessing the situation is much more serious now. it's now due or die and allowed the interview..Post edited by Gern Blansten onRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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I don't care if my candidate is running against OJ Simpson, I'm telling them to 1)lower expectations in the closing days and 2)show some humility to the voters.
This is especially true for candidates as nasty and disliked as Trump and Clinton.
She's probably going to win this thing. After Comey's letter you can throw out running up the score with Texas and Utah. If there was another 2 weeks in this cycle, I think he might be able to pull it off.0 -
I am a millennial. Bernie doesn't own me.Gern Blansten said:
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You aren't a millennial are you? Quit taking yourself so seriously. Bernie said to put your support for him towards Hillary... If you can't do that then shut up and vote for Trump. Who gives a shit.tonifig8 said:Bill Maher and his guest were begging millennials to turn out for Clinton. Maher even talked down to us millennials, which I found a bit insulting. Seems like liberals are concerned. They even brought out the big guns for this one, Obama.....
Congrats, Maher on finally getting Obama to appear on your show. That million dollar donation finally paid off.
Oh, and when that petition came out last year I signed it and had a lot of friends/family sign it as well. Unfortunately Obama rejected the invitation. I'm guessing the situation is much more serious now. it's now due or die and allowed the interview..
I pay my fees here, so I'll post my thoughts. And Apparently you give a shit, you're the one responding is to my post.0 -
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all of his accuser's have been discredited as lies and gold diggers ........but nobody is above the law, so are you saying that Hillary should be charged with several crimes she has publicly been accused of ?HughFreakingDillon said:
you didn't answer the question. do you want a thorough investigation into the accusations against trump whether he wins or loses, or do you not?Godfather. said:
it's coming....forget about Trump it's Hillary's ass on the line.HughFreakingDillon said:
you need to get charged before you go to trial.Godfather. said:
you never know, the Cubs won right LOL !!!! I don't care if the green guy won by default I just want Hillary to at least go to trial.HughFreakingDillon said:
maybe he'll pull it out, maybe he won't. but most aren't giving him much of a shot. there's only a few perfect scenarios where he can win.Godfather. said:
sounds like top rated media source "VOX" / "FOX" you have given into the same thing you have been accusing me of.....let go already she's toast.Gern Blansten said:http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/4/13500018/clinton-email-scandal-bullshit
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Great summary....this is what a lot of us have been saying all along.
Godfather
Godfather.
don't you want Trump to go to trial too?
Godfather.
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What do you mean "of course you do"? I ak talking about Assange here, not Clinton. I am not against the releasing of info generally (and I used to support Assange). But Assange is clearly playing games for his own weirdo motivations, and isn't being forthright or unbiased at all anymore. He is being manipulative with the information he has. That isn't what wikileaks was supposed to be about. (The fact that all these emails don't say anything is besides the point).tonifig8 said:
Of course you do.PJ_Soul said:
I totally agree about Assange. I feel like he used to seem sane and had the public's interests in mind, and now he doesn't. No transparency, and he's just playing games with Americans now. It's bullshit.CM189191 said:
No? You don't want to go down that path?tonifig8 said:
exactly.CM189191 said:
How so?tonifig8 said:
You better be careful with your comments. Or do you want me to correct you? I don't have the time, but for you I will make an exception.CM189191 said:
we don't negotiate with terroriststonifig8 said:Julian Assange already said he'd turn himself in if they'd pardon Manning. You guys could have an end to all this email madness if you guys reach out to your candidate:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/us/chelsea-manning-tried-committing-suicide-a-second-time-in-october.html?_r=0
Assange is not a terrorist and neither is Manning. You should be thanking them for the sacrifices they've made to humanity.
18 U.S.C. § 2331
"International terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear to be intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
Occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S., or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.*
Manning is a traitor, that's different. You will recall: there were charges brought, an arrest, a trial, guilty plea and sentencing. People keep trying to skip right to the end around here.
moving on.
I used to have some semblance of respect for Assange and Wikileaks. Back when it seemed they were truly interested in transparency. But not anymore. How long have they been sitting on these emails? And they dribble them out weeks before the election to cause the most sensationalism. The argument could easily be made that Assange and his organization, actively promote hacking US officials, and trying to persuade an election. That would almost certainly fall under the definition of terrorism.
Assange dumps the emails. You sort them out. That's about it. It's a shit load of emails and they're mostly sensational... Nothing in them really... and most of them occurred earlier this year. That's a lot of work for someone who is working from his mobile, picking up a single from Starbucks.
Clinton receives foreign money, but no that doesn't influence American politics. You're right. Clinton is a terrorist... wait.. we'll you know what I mean.
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wikileaks doesn't hack. Germany honored Assange, Manning, and Snowden with a statue. We should probably do the same. I'll contribute the first dollar.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Hillary destroys everything in her path, creating issues like this server that creates unnecessary problems and puts other people in no win situations like James Comey. Her actions have led to an internal rebellion in the FBI and we want someone like this as president?0
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We don't, but trump. These powerful groups make it so that breaking free is almost impossible.bootlegger10 said:Hillary destroys everything in her path, creating issues like this server that creates unnecessary problems and puts other people in no win situations like James Comey. Her actions have led to an internal rebellion in the FBI and we want someone like this as president?
Now get back in line and back to work. You've been warned.0 -
This is a great article about where things stand...it's pretty much anti-both candidates.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-clinton-trump-kass-1106-20161104-column.html
Time for everyone to choose their poison.0 -
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Bill Maher has become the "Vote Hillary" Show. Him and his guests can bite me.tonifig8 said:Bill Maher and his guest were begging millennials to turn out for Clinton. Maher even talked down to us millennials, which I found a bit insulting. Seems like liberals are concerned. They even brought out the big guns for this one, Obama.....
Congrats, Maher on finally getting Obama to appear on your show. That million dollar donation finally paid off.
Oh, and when that petition came out last year I signed it and had a lot of friends/family sign it as well. Unfortunately Obama rejected the invitation. I'm guessing the situation is much more serious now. it's now due or die and allowed the interview..
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No, he didn't. Kinda throws that defense of yours out of the water and makes me wonder if you actually were a Sanders supporter.Gern Blansten said:
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You aren't a millennial are you? Quit taking yourself so seriously. Bernie said to put your support for him towards Hillary... If you can't do that then shut up and vote for Trump. Who gives a shit.tonifig8 said:Bill Maher and his guest were begging millennials to turn out for Clinton. Maher even talked down to us millennials, which I found a bit insulting. Seems like liberals are concerned. They even brought out the big guns for this one, Obama.....
Congrats, Maher on finally getting Obama to appear on your show. That million dollar donation finally paid off.
Oh, and when that petition came out last year I signed it and had a lot of friends/family sign it as well. Unfortunately Obama rejected the invitation. I'm guessing the situation is much more serious now. it's now due or die and allowed the interview..We are not a movement where I can snap my fingers and say to you or to anybody else what you should do, because you won't listen to me. You shouldn't.
http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-told-supporters-hed-never-tell-them-how-to-vote/Post edited by Free on0 -
Not many of us!bootlegger10 said:Hillary destroys everything in her path, creating issues like this server that creates unnecessary problems and puts other people in no win situations like James Comey. Her actions have led to an internal rebellion in the FBI and we want someone like this as president?
unsung said:
Yeah, no kidding.
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This is a great article about where things stand...it's pretty much anti-both candidates.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-clinton-trump-kass-1106-20161104-column.html
Time for everyone to choose their poison.Say what you wish about Donald Trump — and most everyone has — he's been right about one thing:
Yep!!
It's been rigged for Hillary Clinton. And it's been rigged from the inside, the Chicago Way.0 -
Maher admitted last night that previous attacks on Bush, McCain and Romney was "crying wolf" but says that now he should be listened to on Trump. It is his fault that the character attacks on Trump aren't working this time around.Free said:
Bill Maher has become the "Vote Hillary" Show. Him and his guests can bite me.tonifig8 said:Bill Maher and his guest were begging millennials to turn out for Clinton. Maher even talked down to us millennials, which I found a bit insulting. Seems like liberals are concerned. They even brought out the big guns for this one, Obama.....
Congrats, Maher on finally getting Obama to appear on your show. That million dollar donation finally paid off.
Oh, and when that petition came out last year I signed it and had a lot of friends/family sign it as well. Unfortunately Obama rejected the invitation. I'm guessing the situation is much more serious now. it's now due or die and allowed the interview..0
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